# Ideas as wise as ground zero mosque **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 25, 2010, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ideas-as-wise-as-ground-zero-mosque/551349 "2010-08-25T00:58:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Dave\_Hartwick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7feea3/32.png) [@Dave\_Hartwick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dave_Hartwick)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2010, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ideas-as-wise-as-ground-zero-mosque/551349/141 "2010-08-29T00:07:48Z")
Columbus Day. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2010, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ideas-as-wise-as-ground-zero-mosque/551349/142 "2010-08-29T21:52:54Z")
> [@Patty\_O\_Furniture](#): > > Move _Burning Man_ to Waco, TX. Start the fire with gas or electricity. But first deny him a pardon. ---
**Author:** ![Michael\_Ellis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@Michael\_Ellis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Ellis)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2010, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ideas-as-wise-as-ground-zero-mosque/551349/143 "2010-08-30T04:54:14Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Islam had nothing to do with 9/11. Come on, really? ---
**Author:** ![Musicat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/musicat/32/20189_2.png) [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2010, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ideas-as-wise-as-ground-zero-mosque/551349/144 "2010-08-30T05:12:51Z")
> [@Michael\_Ellis](#): > > > [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > > > Islam had nothing to do with 9/11. > > Come on, really? The _Museum of Whoosh_ at Diogenes’ house. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2010, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ideas-as-wise-as-ground-zero-mosque/551349/145 "2010-08-30T15:13:27Z")
> [@FE3O4ENAIL](#): > > What post of mine did you think was a complaint? This one: > [@FE3O4ENAIL](#): > > Its called artistic license, I know the facts, as I said upthread I support any Islamic Center anywhere in NYC, or anywhere else, I was trying to set up a joke and give everyone a chance to be creative using black ( as in death) comedy. > > Am I still a retard now that it has been explained to you? I’ll give you credit for just not phrasing the concept well, though; so, no, you’re not a retard. And I do like your name. Oh, and **Dewey Finn** , I’m still waiting for you to explain \*exactly \*what you objected to in the Olbermann video, as opposed to, “I hate all his special comments, and this is a special comment, so I must hate it.” > [@Unintentionally\_Blank](#): > > Or, you know, phrase anything any way you want, because SOMEONE at the SDMB will be offended. What are you, some kind of idiot?! ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2010, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ideas-as-wise-as-ground-zero-mosque/551349/146 "2010-08-30T21:58:41Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > Oh, and **Dewey Finn** , I’m still waiting for you to explain \*exactly \*what you objected to in the Olbermann video, as opposed to, “I hate all his special comments, and this is a special comment, so I must hate it.” I still haven’t seen it, so pretty much that’s my complaint. His special comments are him at his most blowhard level. They’re usually the last segment of his show, so I usually change the channel as soon as he starts one. Also, when he does one of those segments in which he makes fun of the right wing with something like a fake interview, it’s never as funny as he thinks it is. (And does he have to be so relentlessly partisan? “So, Lawrence [O’Donnell, a frequent guest], why are the Republicans being so unfair to the Democratic Party and how can they respond?” Keep in mind that I’m on his side. ---
**Author:** ![Unintentionally\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/unintentionally_blank/32/5418_2.png) [@Unintentionally\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unintentionally_Blank)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2010, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ideas-as-wise-as-ground-zero-mosque/551349/147 "2010-08-30T23:48:11Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > > [@Unintentionally\_Blank](#): > > > > Or, you know, phrase anything any way you want, because SOMEONE at the SDMB will be offended. > > What are you, some kind of idiot?! It’s not intentional. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2010, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ideas-as-wise-as-ground-zero-mosque/551349/148 "2010-08-31T14:00:36Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > I still haven’t seen it, so pretty much that’s my complaint. Watch the fucking video and get back to me when you actually have something legitimate to bitch about. (Seriously, how lame are you that you feel the need to tell the world that something is terrible… _that you haven’t even fucking seen_?) ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2010, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ideas-as-wise-as-ground-zero-mosque/551349/149 "2010-08-31T14:05:53Z")
Jesus, calm yourself. I did see it after I posted what I said above and while I admit it’s not as bad as some of his rants/“special comments”, he does tend to go overboard. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2010, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ideas-as-wise-as-ground-zero-mosque/551349/150 "2010-08-31T19:14:44Z")
Good. Maybe next time you’ll just watch the damn thing instead of telling me out your ass how terrible it is and having to retract it like a dumbass. ---
**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2010, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ideas-as-wise-as-ground-zero-mosque/551349/151 "2010-08-31T19:36:20Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > Good. Maybe next time you’ll just watch the damn thing instead of telling me out your ass how terrible it is and having to retract it like a dumbass. He never said your link was terrible. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2010, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ideas-as-wise-as-ground-zero-mosque/551349/152 "2010-08-31T19:42:10Z")
> [@Labrador\_Deceiver](#): > > He never said your link was terrible. Not that literal word, but, since you’ve apparently forgotten and are incapable of scrolling up, I’ll refresh your memory: > [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > You must be kidding. I watch Countdown with Keith Olbermann regularly, and even I admit that his “special comments” are him at his worst. If he \*wasn’t \*in effect telling me and everyone else in this thread that the video–which he \*had not watched \*and after watching effectively agreed \*was \*worthwhile with a half-assed retraction 'cause he didn’t have the balls to flat-out say “I was wrong”–was terrible, I’d like to hear your interpretation. ---
**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2010, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ideas-as-wise-as-ground-zero-mosque/551349/153 "2010-08-31T19:49:06Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > > [@Labrador\_Deceiver](#): > > > > He never said your link was terrible. > > Not that literal word, but, since you’ve apparently forgotten and are incapable of scrolling up, I’ll refresh your memory: > > > [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > > > You must be kidding. I watch Countdown with Keith Olbermann regularly, and even I admit that his “special comments” are him at his worst. > > If he \*wasn’t \*in effect telling me and everyone else in this thread that the video–which he \*had not watched \*and after watching effectively agreed \*was \*worthwhile with a half-assed retraction 'cause he didn’t have the balls to flat-out say “I was wrong”–was terrible, I’d like to hear your interpretation. He was saying that your link was taken from a particular segment of his show that is the weakest. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2010, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ideas-as-wise-as-ground-zero-mosque/551349/154 "2010-08-31T19:57:29Z")
Bullshit. He said I “must be kidding” and that segment of the show was Obermann “at his worst.” He was categorically calling a video \*he hadn’t seen \*terrible. ---
**Author:** ![Raguleader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/258eb7/32.png) [@Raguleader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raguleader)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2010, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ideas-as-wise-as-ground-zero-mosque/551349/155 "2010-08-31T20:03:29Z")
> [@FE3O4ENAIL](#): > > > [@Unintentionally\_Blank](#): > > > > There’s this [thing](http://www.answers.com/topic/black-comedy) that describes what we’re doing…and it has nothing to do with intolerance, or bigotry. It’s a part of the human condition. But all subtlety is lost on the internet, and if something CAN offend, it will surely find the person it DOES offend. > > Yah, thats the ticket. > > How about for the joggers in the house -The Bataan 98k Run. [The Bataan Memorial Death March](http://www.bataanmarch.com/), held at the White Sands Missile Range in New Mexico. I knew an officer back at Sheppard who went to go do that last year. A quick Wiki indicates that the Boy Scouts also does a memorial march in the Philippines every other year. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2010, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ideas-as-wise-as-ground-zero-mosque/551349/156 "2010-08-31T20:08:40Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > Good. Maybe next time you’ll just watch the damn thing instead of telling me out your ass how terrible it is and having to retract it like a dumbass. Perhaps one day you’ll find the peace you so clearly need. In the meantime, perhaps you might cut back on the coffee. ---
**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2010, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ideas-as-wise-as-ground-zero-mosque/551349/157 "2010-08-31T20:13:42Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > Bullshit. He said I “must be kidding” and that segment of the show was Obermann “at his worst.” He was categorically calling a video \*he hadn’t seen \*terrible. He said that his “special comments” section was Olbermann at his worst. Everything else is your little fantasy. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2010, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ideas-as-wise-as-ground-zero-mosque/551349/158 "2010-08-31T21:48:06Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > Perhaps one day you’ll find the peace you so clearly need. In the meantime, perhaps you might cut back on the coffee. I don’t drink caffeine these days. But please do feel free to cast these weak aspersions on me instead of growing a pair and admitting that you fucked up. > [@Labrador\_Deceiver](#): > > He said that his “special comments” section was Olbermann at his worst. Everything else is your little fantasy. The video I posted \*is \*one of Olbermann’s “special comments,” \*which is why \*\*\*Dewey \*\*was saying it sucked and I was effectively stupid for posting it… \*without actually watching \*that particular “special comment.” Seriously, are you retarded? Did you think that \*\*Dewey \*\*was just randomly making comments about Olbermann’s “special comments” apropos of nothing and just \*happened \*to quote my posts at the time? :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2010, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ideas-as-wise-as-ground-zero-mosque/551349/159 "2010-08-31T21:53:04Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > > [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > > > Perhaps one day you’ll find the peace you so clearly need. In the meantime, perhaps you might cut back on the coffee. > > I don’t drink caffeine these days. But please do feel free to cast these weak aspersions on me instead of growing a pair and admitting that you fucked up. > > > [@Labrador\_Deceiver](#): > > > > He said that his “special comments” section was Olbermann at his worst. Everything else is your little fantasy. > > The video I posted \*is \*one of Olbermann’s “special comments,” \*which is why \*\*\*Dewey \*\*was saying it sucked and I was effectively stupid for posting it… \*without actually watching \*that particular “special comment.” > > Seriously, are you retarded? Did you think that \*\*Dewey \*\*was just randomly making comments about Olbermann’s “special comments” apropos of nothing and just \*happened \*to quote my posts at the time? :rolleyes: No, I’m saying he dismissed it out of hand because he saw that it was from a section of Olbermann’s show that he thinks is pretty bad. You’re the special needs kid in this thread. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2010, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ideas-as-wise-as-ground-zero-mosque/551349/160 "2010-08-31T22:02:21Z")
> [@Labrador\_Deceiver](#): > > No, I’m saying he dismissed it out of hand because he saw that it was from a section of Olbermann’s show that he thinks is pretty bad. Exactly. So what the fuck is your complaint? You think someone can dismiss something out of hand and think it’s _good_? You’re even stupider than I thought. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ideas-as-wise-as-ground-zero-mosque/551349.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ideas-as-wise-as-ground-zero-mosque/551349.md?page=9)