# Ideas for a new Star Trek series

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**Created:** [April 7, 2012, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ideas-for-a-new-star-trek-series/618055 "2012-04-07T02:45:47Z")\
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**Author:** ![cckerberos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@cckerberos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cckerberos)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2012, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ideas-for-a-new-star-trek-series/618055/41 "2012-04-07T22:42:41Z")

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I gotta say… a lot of these proposals sound like good shows. They don’t sound much like Trek, though.

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**Author:** ![Jilaad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e8c25b/32.png) [@Jilaad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jilaad)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2012, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ideas-for-a-new-star-trek-series/618055/42 "2012-04-07T22:45:15Z")

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I would like a show that’s set on a Klingon or Romulan ship, and not Yet Another Starfleet Ship.

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2012, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ideas-for-a-new-star-trek-series/618055/43 "2012-04-07T23:50:16Z")

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The best shows involve a core group meeting different challenges each week, with no fake “get off the island” dilemmas - in other word TOS and TNG. I’ve been working through all of TNG, and have just watched a show where Picard’s reaction to the display of godlike powers is “we can do all that stuff.” So how about a show set 50 or 100 years after TNG where their technology has gotten ahead of their moral judgment. If humans are headed to Q-ville how do they deal with all that power. It can begin with the breakdown of the Prime Directive as they realize officially that not interfering with a culture about to die is not necessarily moral.

While we’re at it, we can have Spock go to the Guardian of Forever and go back to fix his mistake to cut off the Abrams timeline entirely.

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2012, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ideas-for-a-new-star-trek-series/618055/44 "2012-04-08T00:22:13Z")

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> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#):
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> Bryan Singer once pitched a new _Star Trek_ series that I sorely wished had got off the ground. It was to be set well after _Star Trek - The Next Generation_ in a time when the Federation has grown large and unwieldy. Like the Roman Empire before it, cracks are beginning to develop and the unity that once was is lost. The Golden Age of expansion has passed in both exploration and scientific achievement. But even with this contraction, a new race of aliens is encountered. A race who is hungry for territory and resources. They are barbarians at the gates of the Federation’s Empire.

This would be a win. Especially as it becomes clear over time that the antagonists are the ones in the right.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2012, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ideas-for-a-new-star-trek-series/618055/45 "2012-04-08T00:59:18Z")

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I want a Star Trek with some really _alien_ aliens, not just humans with skin conditions. I want their actions and motivations to be unfathomable and dangerous, and for humans to be rather afraid of them because they can’t reliably communicate with them.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2012, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ideas-for-a-new-star-trek-series/618055/46 "2012-04-08T01:21:01Z")

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I want one that harkens back to the adventure and action of the original with the special effects of today. Much like the Doctor Who revival that is so well done. The Original show for all its 60s themes and cheesy by today special effects was the most action oriented. I loved the space battles we got and the fact they welded a really strong power trio in the original. Keep down the angst at all cost.

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**Author:** ![Sefton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@Sefton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sefton)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2012, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ideas-for-a-new-star-trek-series/618055/47 "2012-04-08T01:46:43Z")

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_Star Trek: Corsair_

Due to a crisis of conscience, a Federation officer goes rogue. He/she liberates a select group of prisoners, steals a ship, and travels through space as a pirate. Now, in addition to all the traditional villains, he/she has to evade the forces of the Federation.

It could work!

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2012, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ideas-for-a-new-star-trek-series/618055/48 "2012-04-08T02:10:53Z")

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> [@Sefton](#):
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> _Star Trek: Corsair_
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> Due to a crisis of conscience, a Federation officer goes rogue. He/she liberates a select group of prisoners, steals a ship, and travels through space as a pirate. Now, in addition to all the traditional villains, he/she has to evade the forces of the Federation.
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> It could work!

That might work into the Maquis theme.

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**Author:** ![cerberus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/71e660/32.png) [@cerberus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cerberus)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2012, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ideas-for-a-new-star-trek-series/618055/49 "2012-04-08T05:24:46Z")

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> [@Sefton](#):
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> _Star Trek: Corsair_
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> Due to a crisis of conscience, a Federation officer goes rogue. He/she liberates a select group of prisoners, steals a ship, and travels through space as a pirate. Now, in addition to all the traditional villains, he/she has to evade the forces of the Federation.
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> It could work!

They sorta did this a la Blake’s Seven.

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**Author:** ![Sefton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@Sefton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sefton)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2012, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ideas-for-a-new-star-trek-series/618055/50 "2012-04-08T05:58:06Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Originally posted by **Cerberus**
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> They sorta did this a la Blake’s Seven.

A good point. Let’s scrap the crisis of conscience and make the protagonist a real rogue–an Errol Flynn type who gets arrested after disrupting a political wedding. The Federation puts him in prison, but he breaks out with a squad of desperate criminals, each with a mysterious past.

The Federation will still be a bastion of liberty and political correctness. But will they catch this pirate? Or will he mold his unruly group into an effective crew? Find out on…

_Star Trek: Corsair_

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**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2012, 8:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ideas-for-a-new-star-trek-series/618055/51 "2012-04-08T08:08:01Z")

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> [@Sefton](#):
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> _Star Trek: Corsair_

Unfortunately it would be competing against _Star Wars: Buccaneer,_ and _Stargate: Scoundrel._

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**Author:** ![NiceGuyJack](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/niceguyjack/32/3069_2.png) [@NiceGuyJack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NiceGuyJack)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2012, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ideas-for-a-new-star-trek-series/618055/52 "2012-04-08T18:48:26Z")

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How about an investigative/diplomatic Star Trek Federation unit.  
A unit sent out to investigate or negotiate possible new federation members. They would need to visit planets to determine if the people of a specific planet qualifies to join the federation.

In each episode, you would encounter specific issues or problems which could be an issue for membership and you never know if said planet qualifies.

In addition, the group would also be responsible to investigate current members when and if a situation occurs where they may be breaking federation rules and could be expelled if violation is too severe.

They would also be responsible for first contact missions once a planets population has reached a certain level of technical advancement.

Finally they are also responsible to investigate possible violations of the prime directive.

The only problem with this that I can think of is coming up with a major foe. Perhaps Romulans, Cardassians, Breen or even Ferengi could be foes competing for planets.

On a side note, the crew would have frequent inspections to Risa of course.

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**Author:** ![NiceGuyJack](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/niceguyjack/32/3069_2.png) [@NiceGuyJack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NiceGuyJack)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2012, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ideas-for-a-new-star-trek-series/618055/53 "2012-04-08T18:53:33Z")

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> [@NiceGuyJack](#):
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> The only problem with this that I can think of is coming up with a major foe. Perhaps Romulans, Cardassians, Breen or even Ferengi could be foes competing for planets.

Oh! I got it! It could be a new foe early on, let’s say in a first contact mission where it turns out they encounter a very xenophobic race who have developed warp drive. What was unknown is how advanced their weapons are and they become a seriously dangerous foe who quickly expand their territory to rival the federation.

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**Post date:** [April 8, 2012, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ideas-for-a-new-star-trek-series/618055/54 "2012-04-08T19:03:17Z")

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\*\*NCIS: StarFleet

JAG: TNG

DS Alcatraz\*\*

Sure, we have replicators, uplifting goals and ideals, socialised healthcare, and lots of pretty women in tight outfits. But, we can’t evolve THAT much in a few hundred years, not like Gene was thinking anyways. We still are going to have murders, drug addictions, family strife, etc … (as seen in a few eps of the various series).

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**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2012, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ideas-for-a-new-star-trek-series/618055/55 "2012-04-08T22:19:39Z")

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> [@NiceGuyJack](#):
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> How about an investigative/diplomatic Star Trek Federation unit.  
> A unit sent out to investigate or negotiate possible new federation members. They would need to visit planets to determine if the people of a specific planet qualifies to join the federation.

I honestly think this has been the single best idea for a Star Trek series thus far. I might expand the premise a bit more, maybe they also do solve problems that arise between Federation members, just for example, but I think you’ve got a rock solid idea.

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**Author:** ![Ranchoth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranchoth/32/1066_2.png) [@Ranchoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranchoth)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2012, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ideas-for-a-new-star-trek-series/618055/56 "2012-04-08T23:01:38Z")

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One from me, awhile back…

> [@Things you wanted to see in Star Wars or Star Trek](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-you-wanted-to-see-in-star-wars-or-star-trek/602672/24):
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> I had an idea for a post-DS9 series—actually, it’d probably work best as a miniseries, or maybe part of an anthology or something; anyway…—taking place on occupied Cardassia, post-Dominion War.
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> We start off in the pilot with the opening titles, show title superimposed over a starfield…and as the orchestra fades out, the camera pans down to reveal a [ruined cityscape](http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/File:Cardassia_in_ruins.jpg) at night, with a hovercar full of patrolling UFP troops skimming past some miserable looking Cardassian refugees.
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> The story would be about the issues and travails of the occupation force; preventing food riots at aid depots; ensuring security; trying to rebuild a shattered world, drained and battered by war, and a genocidal orbital bombardment in the conflict’s final hours; and most importantly, dealing with the Cardassian _people_—“liberated,” “conquered,” but most of all pitiably desperate, and trying to rebuild a world with them.
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> And more drama comes from the Federation Alliance, itself not exactly politically unified, and the disparate groups making up the force planetside clashing and meshing. Federation peacekeepers taking to wearing [Klingon-style body armor](http://www.megomuseum.com/startrek/accessory/12klingon/armor.jpg) (sturdier than a gold shirt—especially against getting shanked in a scuffle); Klingons needing to use weapons that _have_ a “stun” setting; maybe see some neglected (perhaps, in-story, societally…) Federation member species like the [Arcturians](http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Arcturian) again, and all the while the brass and the guys in nice offices back on the homeworlds are playing the situation to their own ends, while the guys on the ground on both sides are just trying to keep things together.
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> I came up with the notion a little while after the DS9 finale, so that’d be…1999-2000-ish. :eek:
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> Now, admittedly, the inspirations I had in mind were more post-war Germany and Japan (with some 1993 Somalia) than any prescience, and that’s really more the direction I’d imagined the story going in. Though if they made anything like this today, they’d probably just “[del]Iraq[/del] Cardassia” in a script, and produce it as is, even if it didn’t make any sense for the setting. Maybe with some really terrible technobabble plastered on to handwave it, _if_ you’re lucky. ☹
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> (I’d add some more snarks concerning science fiction in general, but I’m veeerry tired. i sleep now.)

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**Post date:** [April 8, 2012, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ideas-for-a-new-star-trek-series/618055/57 "2012-04-08T23:35:30Z")

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Another post-Dominion War idea: ST-Detente. The new, and uneasy, allies the Federation and the Romulan Empire develop a joint mission to explore the Gamma Quadrant. Culture clashes, multi-layer plots, and other frictions ensue - and that’s just among the crew. You still have the “wagon train in space” aspect, and chances for ship-to-ship action and conflict, as well as chances for diplomacy.

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**Post date:** [April 8, 2012, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ideas-for-a-new-star-trek-series/618055/58 "2012-04-08T23:59:12Z")

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> [@Lobohan](#):
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> Orion space freighter trying to make ends meet during the first series. They would encounter things related to TOS throughout their run. Stop at a station with Cyrano Jones collecting tribbles. Encounter Harry Mudd and his androids and or Sex Ladies™.
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> Make a delivery to the Daystrom Institute and almost get killed by a malfunctioning M4 unit. Be getting chased by a Klingon as the Organian Peace Treaty goes into effect and the chasing ship’s disrupters can’t fire.
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> If you’ll excuse me, I need to tend to this nerd-boner.

Is Tom Stoppard available to write it?

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2012, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ideas-for-a-new-star-trek-series/618055/59 "2012-04-09T02:54:16Z")

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> [@NiceGuyJack](#):
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> The only problem with this that I can think of is coming up with a major foe. Perhaps Romulans, Cardassians, Breen or even Ferengi could be foes competing for planets.

The Groaci of course. 🙂  
“To put your phaser down, Starfleet Diplomat.”  
Actually, I like this idea, since the discovery of an interstellar culture is more disruptive than ever seen on Trek. What does it do to the native religion and science?

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2012, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ideas-for-a-new-star-trek-series/618055/60 "2012-04-09T03:01:48Z")

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> [@Voyager](#):
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> Actually, I like this idea, since the discovery of an interstellar culture is more disruptive than ever seen on Trek. What does it do to the native religion and science?

Plus, one of the good things about TOS was its political commentary - heavy handed at times, but at other times quite good. We can see cultures illuminating some of the trends in our present-day culture, and look at the issues of changing to the Federation culture - if this is even a good idea.

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