# Ideas for a new Star Trek series

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [April 7, 2012, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ideas-for-a-new-star-trek-series/618055 "2012-04-07T02:45:47Z")\
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**Author:** ![Shot\_Clock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Shot\_Clock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_Clock)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2012, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ideas-for-a-new-star-trek-series/618055/61 "2012-04-09T03:31:33Z")

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I’m sure any new series, regardless of characters and setting, will feature holodecks and time travel a-plenty.

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**Author:** ![audit1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ed8c4c/32.png) [@audit1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/audit1)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2012, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ideas-for-a-new-star-trek-series/618055/62 "2012-04-09T04:17:49Z")

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> [@Lobohan](#):
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> Orion space freighter trying to make ends meet during the first series. They would encounter things related to TOS throughout their run. Stop at a station with Cyrano Jones collecting tribbles. Encounter Harry Mudd and his androids and or Sex Ladies™.
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> Make a delivery to the Daystrom Institute and almost get killed by a malfunctioning M4 unit. Be getting chased by a Klingon as the Organian Peace Treaty goes into effect and the chasing ship’s disrupters can’t fire.
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> If you’ll excuse me, I need to tend to this nerd-boner.

i’m thinking Nathan Fillion would make a good captain, say Gina Torres as his first officer, Jewel Staite as Chief Engineer etc.

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**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2012, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ideas-for-a-new-star-trek-series/618055/63 "2012-04-09T14:23:03Z")

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> [@NoClueBoy](#):
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> Sure, we have replicators, uplifting goals and ideals, socialised healthcare, and lots of pretty women in tight outfits. But, we can’t evolve THAT much in a few hundred years, not like Gene was thinking anyways. We still are going to have murders, drug addictions, family strife, etc … (as seen in a few eps of the various series).

With the level of medicine technology that we see displayed in TNG/Voyager, I would think that the physical aspects of drug addiction could be cured fairly quickly.

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2012, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ideas-for-a-new-star-trek-series/618055/64 "2012-04-09T14:33:15Z")

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**Borg: The Beginning**. How did the first generation of people get to be Borgs?

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**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2012, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ideas-for-a-new-star-trek-series/618055/65 "2012-04-09T14:36:29Z")

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> [@Annie-Xmas](#):
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> **Borg: The Beginning**. How did the first generation of people get to be Borgs?

I thought the Borg Queen in _First Contact_ sorta shed some light on that: A race of humanoids, seeking perfection, begin to modify themselves with technological implants.

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**Author:** ![Uzi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/91b2a8/32.png) [@Uzi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uzi)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2012, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ideas-for-a-new-star-trek-series/618055/66 "2012-04-09T14:53:50Z")

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> Space: the final frontier. These are the voyages of the starship Enterprise. Its five-year mission: to explore strange new worlds, to seek out new life and new civilizations, to boldly go where no man has gone before.

What more do you need than a show that actually does this?  
One caveat: No frakken time travel!

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2012, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ideas-for-a-new-star-trek-series/618055/67 "2012-04-09T15:06:30Z")

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> [@mlees](#):
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> With the level of medicine technology that we see displayed in TNG/Voyager, I would think that the physical aspects of drug addiction could be cured fairly quickly.

In the Great Bird version, sure. I suggest going back to some of the story ideas that were more similar to Harlan Ellison’s early story treatments of the issue that led to the Guardian(s) of Forever being part of the plot.

> **[The City on the Edge of Forever](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_City_on_the_Edge_of_Forever#Original_treatments_and_scripts)**
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> "The City on the Edge of Forever" is the twenty-eighth and penultimate episode of the first season of the American science fiction television series Star Trek. It was written by Harlan Ellison; contributors to and/or editors of the script included Steven W. Carabatsos, D. C. Fontana and Gene L. Coon. Gene Roddenberry made the final re-write. The episode was directed by Joseph Pevney and first aired on NBC on April 6, 1967.
> In the episode, Doctor Leonard McCoy (DeForest Kelley) accidentally ov...

:dubious: - “Fascinating.”

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2012, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ideas-for-a-new-star-trek-series/618055/68 "2012-04-09T15:23:16Z")

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> [@Uzi](#):
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> One caveat: No frakken time travel!

Amen, brother!

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2012, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ideas-for-a-new-star-trek-series/618055/69 "2012-04-09T16:27:09Z")

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> [@Shot\_Clock](#):
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> I’m sure any new series, regardless of characters and setting, will feature holodecks and time travel a-plenty.

So - lets use it to the advantage -

Star Trek - History Channel - each week, episode(s) dealing with crucial events in federation history.

You could have mini-arcs devoted to the Romulan War - Cardassia’s overthrow of Bajor, etc and so on - set far enough in the future, you could revisit all of the erras thru ‘stock footage’ as well as new takes.

No particular set crew or ship - just ‘this day in history’ - the Eugenics wars, etc.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2012, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ideas-for-a-new-star-trek-series/618055/70 "2012-04-09T16:41:52Z")

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> [@simster](#):
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> So - lets use it to the advantage -

Clips from the series as historical footage.

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**Author:** ![sciurophobic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cab0a1/32.png) [@sciurophobic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sciurophobic)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2012, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ideas-for-a-new-star-trek-series/618055/71 "2012-04-09T16:50:07Z")

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> [@Simplicio](#):
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> I like the idea of doing a “lower decks” type thing, with a bunch of people on a Star Ship that aren’t at the top of the command hierarchy. I was hoping that was what the latest movie would be, with us seeing Kirk and friends when they were just ensigns. But apparently Kirk can’t set foot on a Starship without someone declaring him captain within the first five minutes.

I’d like a “lower decks” show too. One where we hardly see the senior officers, we never see the bridge, and the ship would frequently be under attack with no explanation why. And I’d make it a 1/2 hour sitcom.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2012, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ideas-for-a-new-star-trek-series/618055/72 "2012-04-09T16:51:50Z")

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… with a crewman named Kenny, who gets killed as part of an Away Team every week.

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**Author:** ![NiceGuyJack](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/niceguyjack/32/3069_2.png) [@NiceGuyJack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NiceGuyJack)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ideas-for-a-new-star-trek-series/618055/73 "2012-04-10T05:32:05Z")

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> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> … with a crewman named Kenny, who gets killed as part of an Away Team every week.

Hardly original, but if we’re going that way, he’d have to wear a red shirt of course.

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**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ideas-for-a-new-star-trek-series/618055/74 "2012-04-10T06:09:30Z")

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> [@Annie-Xmas](#):
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> **Borg: The Beginning**. How did the first generation of people get to be Borgs?

I thought about this a long time ago. But then some dolt had to come up with Caprica, which kinda made me lose my craving for such a show.

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**Author:** ![cerberus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/71e660/32.png) [@cerberus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cerberus)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2012, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ideas-for-a-new-star-trek-series/618055/75 "2012-04-11T01:37:49Z")

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This has been suggested earlier, but focus on the red shirts

Red Shirt Diaries

Separately, it would be interesting to do a procedural investigating cluster fucks, where a field team investigates the remnants of missions gone wrong. You could bounce between mission logs, reenactments and flashbacks.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2012, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ideas-for-a-new-star-trek-series/618055/76 "2012-04-11T01:53:55Z")

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> [@cerberus](#):
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> Separately, it would be interesting to do a procedural investigating cluster fucks, where a field team investigates the remnants of missions gone wrong. You could bounce between mission logs, reenactments and flashbacks.

Ensign Kirk and the cloud creature from _Operation: Annihilate._

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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2012, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ideas-for-a-new-star-trek-series/618055/77 "2012-04-11T02:20:45Z")

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> [@cckerberos](#):
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> I gotta say… a lot of these proposals sound like good shows. They don’t sound much like Trek, though.

So what, other than being set in the Trekverse, is quintessentially Trek?

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**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2012, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ideas-for-a-new-star-trek-series/618055/78 "2012-04-11T04:35:42Z")

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> [@DSeid](#):
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> So what, other than being set in the Trekverse, is quintessentially Trek?

Humanism. The Feds are exploring the galaxy in order to contact new species, gain wisdom and to otherwise expand their horizons rather than for exploitation and greed. Optimism is another necessity. Even the darkest Trek (DS9) was pretty optimistic. The future is better. Poverty, racism and other social ills have been all but eliminated from human society. Heck, humans even get along well with a myriad of species even if those mean old Klingons won’t play ball (the Romulans keep cloaking it so I guess it isn’t their fault).

If you remove those two things then you essentially have something that is Trek in name only. It might make for a really cool show, but it isn’t Trek.

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**Post date:** [April 11, 2012, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ideas-for-a-new-star-trek-series/618055/79 "2012-04-11T05:41:22Z")

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> [@Odesio](#):
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> Heck, humans even get along well with a myriad of species even if those mean old Klingons won’t play ball

And for most of the life of the franchise, the Klingons WERE playing ball - showing the optimism again…even these terrifying enemies can be befriended in time. (A sentiment represented in TOS by Chekov.)

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**Post date:** [April 11, 2012, 6:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ideas-for-a-new-star-trek-series/618055/80 "2012-04-11T06:32:23Z")

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I’d like to see a completely lost starship, one that passes into a different dimension or universe. Cut off from the federation and running out of fuel and supplies, the race is on to find a habitable planet. When one is finally found, the entire crew is transported to the new Earth and the starship is abandoned. The settlers must then fight off and/or pacify the native inhabitants whilst creating a society geared toward re-creating space exploration.

For all I know it has been done already. I’ve only ever watched the original.

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