# Identical twins + Identical twins = ?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/identical-twins-identical-twins/157173>\
**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [February 24, 2003, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/identical-twins-identical-twins/157173 "2003-02-24T16:06:05Z")\
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**Author:** ![Nametag](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nametag/32/406_2.png) [@Nametag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nametag)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2003, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/identical-twins-identical-twins/157173/21 "2003-02-24T17:27:53Z")

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Well, it doesn’t run as much as fraternal twins do, and I’d guess the splitting is still a matter of some “luck” even in those who are predisposed. Certainly it’s not a significant part of the identical twin population, but there are some families where in which identical twins seem to run.

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**Author:** ![Nametag](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nametag/32/406_2.png) [@Nametag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nametag)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2003, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/identical-twins-identical-twins/157173/22 "2003-02-24T17:34:27Z")

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I should also mention that, occasionally, an egg will split (with its polar body, I think) and be fertilized by two different sperm. These are called _polar body twins_ or some variation on _identical twins_. The shared genetic material between such twins is between 50% and 75%, and it definitely runs in the family - the mother’s family, as the characteristic of egg-splitting is genetic.

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**Post date:** [February 24, 2003, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/identical-twins-identical-twins/157173/23 "2003-02-24T18:30:36Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Nametag \*  
> \*\*Identical twins run in families because the “weakness” that causes the egg to split after dividing is genetic. \*\*

I have friends who are twins, who also have twin sisters. Their mom might have the “weakness” you describe, but she must also have a ton of patience.

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**Author:** ![aahala](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a88e4f/32.png) [@aahala](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aahala)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2003, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/identical-twins-identical-twins/157173/24 "2003-02-24T18:37:12Z")

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Sidebar - The offspring between the two couples would be double cousins and ignoring the twins aspect, it was fairly common in the 1800s. This makes for an interesting looking family chart.

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**Author:** ![davesink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/cc9497/32.png) [@davesink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davesink)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2003, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/identical-twins-identical-twins/157173/25 "2003-02-24T19:11:24Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Meatros \*  
> \*\*Really? I didn’t know that identical twins run in families. I’m an identical twin and I can’t think of anyone else in my family having a twin (then again I don’t know _all_ of my extended family). \*\*

Uh…how bout your brother/sister?😉

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**Author:** ![drpepper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/8baadc/32.png) [@drpepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drpepper)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2003, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/identical-twins-identical-twins/157173/26 "2003-02-24T19:23:09Z")

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I want to make sure I have this straight:

Fraternal twinning is linked with a gene and may “run in families”, as it were.

Identical twinning is not.

Is this right? Does everyone agree with this?

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**Author:** ![Meatros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Meatros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meatros)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2003, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/identical-twins-identical-twins/157173/27 "2003-02-24T19:40:00Z")

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> \*Originally posted by davesink \*  
> \*\*Uh…how bout your brother/sister?😉 \*\*

None in his family either…😃  
Aside from my brother and I, there are no other twins.

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**Post date:** [February 24, 2003, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/identical-twins-identical-twins/157173/28 "2003-02-24T20:29:09Z")

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> \*Originally posted by drpepper \*  
> \*\*I want to make sure I have this straight:
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> Fraternal twinning is linked with a gene and may “run in families”, as it were.
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> Identical twinning is not.
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> Is this right? Does everyone agree with this? \*\*

If you could get everyone to agree with something-- _anything_ on this board, you should get some sort of prize. But yes, this is the general understanding in the medical community.

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**Post date:** [February 25, 2003, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/identical-twins-identical-twins/157173/29 "2003-02-25T01:08:33Z")

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i can’t believe no one starting the singing yet… so i guess i will. ah hem… meee,eee,eee meeee.

cousins, identical cousins…

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**Author:** ![Scruloose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e68b1a/32.png) [@Scruloose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scruloose)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2003, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/identical-twins-identical-twins/157173/30 "2003-02-25T01:47:09Z")

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> \*Originally posted by jamie1985 \*  
> \*\*Thanks Q.E.D 🙂
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> And BTW in my 3 weeks as a lurker i’ve decided to believe Zotti = Cecil \*\*

Or perhaps Cecil and Ed are the siblings of two pairs of identical twins who decided to marry… :dubious:

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**Author:** ![Bob55](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e9c0ed/32.png) [@Bob55](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bob55)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2003, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/identical-twins-identical-twins/157173/31 "2003-02-25T01:53:57Z")

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The children would look different due to the randomness of recombination during meiosis - but they would probably look like siblings.

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**Post date:** [February 25, 2003, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/identical-twins-identical-twins/157173/32 "2003-02-25T04:48:38Z")

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Oooh oooh! Here’s something funny I just thought of.

If a set of identical female and identical male twins had an orgy, there would be no way to figure out who the fathers are when both females give birth.

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**Post date:** [February 25, 2003, 7:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/identical-twins-identical-twins/157173/33 "2003-02-25T07:00:23Z")

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Identical twins + Identical twins = ?

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> \*Originally posted by Shagnasty \*  
> \*\*No, probably not but the children would be brother and sister genetically. \*\*

whoa -

is this true?

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**Author:** ![II\_Gyan\_II](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/bbe5ce/32.png) [@II\_Gyan\_II](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/II_Gyan_II)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2003, 7:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/identical-twins-identical-twins/157173/34 "2003-02-25T07:29:57Z")

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> \*Originally posted by jamie1985 \*  
> \*\*  
> And BTW in my 3 weeks as a lurker i’ve decided to believe Zotti = Cecil \*\*

[hijack]

If you look at any [Staff Report](http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mwashboard.html), it says at the bottom

_Although the SDSAB does its best, these articles are edited by Ed Zotti, not Cecil, so accuracywise you’d better keep your fingers crossed._

Why this disclaimer ? To throw us off track ? :dubious:

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