# Identify Lothos's violin solo in Buffy **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 12, 2003, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/identify-lothoss-violin-solo-in-buffy/160744 "2003-03-12T04:21:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Joe\_Cool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ecb155/32.png) [@Joe\_Cool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joe_Cool)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2003, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/identify-lothoss-violin-solo-in-buffy/160744/1 "2003-03-12T04:21:31Z")
During one of the greatest death scenes in all of film, as Paul Reubens (Lefty) is dying, Rutger Hauer (Lothos) plays the violin. What is the name of what he is playing, and who wrote it? ---
**Author:** ![Joe\_Cool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ecb155/32.png) [@Joe\_Cool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joe_Cool)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2003, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/identify-lothoss-violin-solo-in-buffy/160744/2 "2003-03-13T01:43:55Z")
Come on, doesn’t anybody know? Doesn’t anybody care? sheesh. These are important matters! ---
**Author:** ![Tusculan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecd19e/32.png) [@Tusculan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tusculan)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2003, 7:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/identify-lothoss-violin-solo-in-buffy/160744/3 "2003-03-13T07:54:29Z")
I would like to help you, and being a violinist myself should be able to identify a lot of soli, but unfortunately I do not have this movie taped. I saw it several years ago and I didn’t even remember there was a solo in there. If I get around to it, I might try to rent it in the weekend and then we could see. Maybe it would already help if you could be more descriptive or if you could point to a .WAV file or so of a little bit of the music. ---
**Author:** ![Joe\_Cool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ecb155/32.png) [@Joe\_Cool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joe_Cool)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2003, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/identify-lothoss-violin-solo-in-buffy/160744/4 "2003-03-14T04:31:36Z")
TTT: Ok, here goes. I really can’t describe it well, so I’ll try to speak my transcription to you (you read music, right?). I don’t know the key, so it could be anywhere up or down the scale. 4/4 time, 1/4 = about 70. Each || is a bar. pickup note 1/8 C || 1/8 C 1/4 Rest 1/8 C 1/8 C 1/4 Rest 1/16 C 1/16 D || 1/8 E-flat 1/8 Rest 1/8 C 1/2 Rest 1/16 C 1/16 D || 1/8 E-flat dotted 1/4 Rest 1/8 D dotted 1/4 Rest || 1/8 C dotted 1/2 Rest Repeat 1x I never thought I’d say it, but I wish the board had a music notation font. 🙂 Will that do? Should be enough for you to write it down and look at it for real, I hope. ---
**Author:** ![Tusculan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecd19e/32.png) [@Tusculan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tusculan)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2003, 8:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/identify-lothoss-violin-solo-in-buffy/160744/5 "2003-03-14T08:32:36Z")
Got it. Doesn’t immediately ring a bell. It does remind me of the beginning of Mahler’s Seventh Symphonie. Maybe you could check if Lothos solo sounds like that, to see whether I transcribed it right. FWIW, there is also a site that allows you to search for classical music themes. I got the link here recently (a couple of weeks ago) in a thread on classical music. I’ll be able to find it when I’m back home. Hopefully I can find out more coming weekend. ---
**Author:** ![Tusculan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecd19e/32.png) [@Tusculan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tusculan)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2003, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/identify-lothoss-violin-solo-in-buffy/160744/6 "2003-03-14T17:51:52Z")
Here is the [link](http://name-this-tune.com/) I meant. ---
**Author:** ![lothos2002](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/df788c/32.png) [@lothos2002](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lothos2002)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2003, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/identify-lothoss-violin-solo-in-buffy/160744/7 "2003-03-14T19:42:31Z")
For a minute there I thought I was being pitted! (Wait… This is Café Society, so no pitting for Lothos2002!) 🙂 Carry on please, don’t mind me, just passing by… ---
**Author:** ![Joe\_Cool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ecb155/32.png) [@Joe\_Cool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joe_Cool)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2003, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/identify-lothoss-violin-solo-in-buffy/160744/8 "2003-03-14T23:28:13Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Joe\_Cool \* > **pickup note 1/8 C || 1/8 C 1/4 Rest 1/8 C 1/8 C 1/4 Rest 1/16 C 1/16 D || 1/8 E-flat 1/8 Rest 1/8 C 1/2 Rest 1/16 C 1/16 D || 1/8 E-flat dotted 1/4 Rest 1/8 D dotted 1/4 Rest || 1/8 C dotted 1/2 Rest Repeat 1x** I actually remembered part of that wrong. The first set of three 1/8 notes (end of 1st & beginning of 2nd bar) should be E-flat, A-flat, G instead of C, D, E-flat as I had up there. I’ll check your link when I get home from work, Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![rowrrbazzle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rowrrbazzle/32/414_2.png) [@rowrrbazzle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rowrrbazzle)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2003, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/identify-lothoss-violin-solo-in-buffy/160744/9 "2003-03-15T02:48:02Z")
This sounded familiar, but I didn’t know what it was. I got curious, so I went to the name-this-tune site myself and found “Schumann: Quintet For Piano, 2 Violins, Viola And Cello In E Flat Major, Op. 44: second movement: In Modo D’una Marcia: Un Poco Largamente.” Try [this link](http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000001GP3/qid=1047696129/sr=2-1/ref=sr_2_1/102-7968494-9310536) for audio excerpts at Amaxon. This is still a bit different from your correction, in that the piece has an F where you have an E-flat. So is this the same tune? ---
**Author:** ![Angel\_of\_the\_Lord](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/angel_of_the_lord/32/2949_2.png) [@Angel\_of\_the\_Lord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Angel_of_the_Lord)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2003, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/identify-lothoss-violin-solo-in-buffy/160744/10 "2003-03-15T04:41:01Z")
**rowrrbazzle** , that’s the same tune. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Joe\_Cool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ecb155/32.png) [@Joe\_Cool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joe_Cool)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2003, 7:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/identify-lothoss-violin-solo-in-buffy/160744/11 "2003-03-15T07:42:01Z")
Yes, it is the very same tune. That site kicks butt. 😃 (and a not-bad job of transcribing by memory something I heard last week, I must say! haha) Thanks for the heads up on name-this-tune. It’s quite impressive. ---
**Author:** ![Joe\_Cool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ecb155/32.png) [@Joe\_Cool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joe_Cool)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2003, 7:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/identify-lothoss-violin-solo-in-buffy/160744/12 "2003-03-18T07:46:55Z")
One last question… anybody know where I can find a MIDI file of that song? I’ve been searching for days now, and can’t find it. ---
**Author:** ![johndoe60610](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/278dde/32.png) [@johndoe60610](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/johndoe60610)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2013, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/identify-lothoss-violin-solo-in-buffy/160744/13 "2013-02-26T03:34:29Z")
Just heard it on NRK radio. It’s Schumann’s Piano Quintet In E Flat, Op. 44: I. Allegro Brillante. Here it is on [Amazon](http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001YAJBD2/ref=dm_dp_trk5?ie=UTF8&qid=1361849416&sr=8-2). ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2013, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/identify-lothoss-violin-solo-in-buffy/160744/14 "2013-02-26T03:51:46Z")
> [@johndoe60610](#): > > Just heard it on NRK radio. It’s Schumann’s Piano Quintet In E Flat, Op. 44: I. Allegro Brillante. Here it is on [Amazon](http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001YAJBD2/ref=dm_dp_trk5?ie=UTF8&qid=1361849416&sr=8-2). [Is it this, then?](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqP1pxHkPxA) If so, at what point does his death solo begin? By the way, you should have waited just a few more days and answered it on the 10th(yes, 10th) anniversary of the question being asked. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Greg\_Charles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/839c29/32.png) [@Greg\_Charles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Greg_Charles)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2013, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/identify-lothoss-violin-solo-in-buffy/160744/15 "2013-02-27T16:25:17Z")
In any case he got ninja’d by rowrbazzle. @johndoe you’ve got to learn to type faster!