# Identity Crisis #2--UNBOXED SPOILERS INSIDE! **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 15, 2004, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/identity-crisis-2-unboxed-spoilers-inside/255196 "2004-07-15T02:21:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2004, 11:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/identity-crisis-2-unboxed-spoilers-inside/255196/41 "2004-07-24T11:16:25Z")
> [@CandidGamera](#): > > Did anyone else notice that Dr. Light has reverted to his somewhat goofy finhead appearance, after having adopted a cooler, modern look for the ‘Injustice Gang’ JLA storyline? You seemed to have mistyped this entire paragraph! I can only _assume_ you meant: “Did anyone else notice that Dr. Light has been restored to his classic, sleek, costume (one of the Silver Age’s best!) after adopting a silly “Let’s make him modern by giving him a Firestorm-rip off costume.” (Why was Dr. Light’s head on fire? He’s not Dr. Fire.) look in Green Lantern (and which was used in the “Injustice Gang” storyline)?” 😛 😃 😉 Different strokes, m’friend! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Ranchoth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranchoth/32/1066_2.png) [@Ranchoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranchoth)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2004, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/identity-crisis-2-unboxed-spoilers-inside/255196/42 "2004-07-25T03:28:08Z")
> [@Askia](#): > > Mind-tampering circumvents free will, the mindsets of guilt and pentience, the journey to self-redemption. It forces the violated mind to accept the conditioning imposed on it. Hey, these are supervillains we’re talking about, here. Some of these guys have been around for sixty years…I think it’s pretty fair to assume that these guys aren’t going to “get better” on their own anytime soon. In fact, if they’re suffering from personality disorders, they _can’t_ get better on their own. They don’t just have a different opinion, they’re _insane._ They’re sick. And moreover, they’re _dangerous._ And I’d say that their right to be crazy and violent ends at where the public’s safety begins. > [@](#): > > It’s an imminently _practical_ solution but let’s not pretend it’s anything other than fascist and amoral. It’s not immoral. It’s expedient. I’m not sure you meant to type “not immoral” there :), but I’m almost tempted to agree with you, here. It _is_ expedient, and practical. And if it’s necessary to keep innocent people from being maimed or killed, I could live with it. ---
**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2004, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/identity-crisis-2-unboxed-spoilers-inside/255196/43 "2004-07-25T04:53:37Z")
Re Mind Tampering This was thoroughly addressed in the classic Squadron Supreme. Re Doctor Light I’ve only seen the new costume in an issue of Harley Quinn. Bring back the fin. Re The Pregnancy Test Not having read any of the series, it’s still obvious to me. Doctor Light was distorting the truth. He and Sue actually had consensual sex. He was just one in a long list of supervillians to slip her the old cosmic rod. Tattoed man, the Wizard, the Key, Professor Ivo, Amazo- they’d all been to her bed. Then, she discovered that she was pregnant. Sue thought she could end the pregnancy without Ralph ever knowing. She was wrong. Ralph killed her. When the rage passed, he decided to use his detective skills to hide his guilt and frame somebody else. Will Batman unravel the truth? ---
**Author:** ![Mockingbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c68b51/32.png) [@Mockingbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mockingbird)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2004, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/identity-crisis-2-unboxed-spoilers-inside/255196/44 "2004-07-25T04:59:31Z")
> [@The Asbestos Mango](#): > > What, like if you killed 'em, they’d actually stay dead? > We’re talking about comic-books, here, children. We are talking comic books, and none of us are children. If you really knew what you were talking about, perhaps you’d be less patronizing. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Asbestos\_Mango](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@The\_Asbestos\_Mango](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Asbestos_Mango)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2004, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/identity-crisis-2-unboxed-spoilers-inside/255196/45 "2004-07-25T05:13:28Z")
Oh, excuse me. I thought we were talking about a literary genre in which characters are killed off and subsequently resurrected on a fairly regular basis. Apparently, I was mistaken. Perhaps I should e-mail the mods and ask them to delete my thread asking about comic book heroes who have died and come back to life. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Mockingbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c68b51/32.png) [@Mockingbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mockingbird)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2004, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/identity-crisis-2-unboxed-spoilers-inside/255196/46 "2004-07-25T05:22:18Z")
> [@The Asbestos Mango](#): > > Oh, excuse me. I thought we were talking about a literary genre in which characters are killed off and subsequently resurrected on a fairly regular basis. > > Apparently, I was mistaken. > > Perhaps I should e-mail the mods and ask them to delete my thread asking about comic book heroes who have died and come back to life. :rolleyes: I give your sarcasm a solid **2** but the Russian judge thinks I’m being far too generous and has given you a solid **-9.99**. He just doesn’t see your sarcasm being of the quality to earn a full **-10**. Good luck in training for the next Snarky Olympics. Where you really lost out on the points was your dismount. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Asbestos\_Mango](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@The\_Asbestos\_Mango](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Asbestos_Mango)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2004, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/identity-crisis-2-unboxed-spoilers-inside/255196/47 "2004-07-25T05:26:51Z")
Ya’ know, that was actually funny enough that I’m not mad anymore. ---
**Author:** ![Beauty\_Personified](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e480ec/32.png) [@Beauty\_Personified](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beauty_Personified)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2004, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/identity-crisis-2-unboxed-spoilers-inside/255196/48 "2004-07-29T02:51:04Z")
I’m enjoying this thread, and I haven’t even bought a comic in at least a year, much less any issues of _Identity Crisis_. Of course, I can’t actually go to the local comic book shop and buy any of the issues… _since we don’t have a local comic book shop!_ :mad: ☹ So, I don’t really have anything to contribute to the discussion of _Identity Crisis_, but I do wish to comment on this… > [@Lumpy](#): > > … here’s a more likely scenerio: The government passes a law that sufficiently infamous super-villains (like anyone who’s killed more than 100 people or has escaped from incarceration more than 10 times) can be declared outlaws, with no civil rights or protections, and can be summarily killed by anyone who cares to. The SCOTUS upholds the constitutionality of the law, and the super-heroes wrestle with the moral dilemma of being given tacit permission to kill these troublemakers. This scenario would also lead to some superheroes, supervillains, and non-superpowered folk jumping at the chance to make a name for themselves - by killing a major supervillain, or lots of minor ones. Which, in turn, creates more “villains” for the more “moral” heroes to come into conflict with. A decent writer could create some great stories from such a scenario. Anyhoo… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/identity-crisis-2-unboxed-spoilers-inside/255196.md?page=2)