# Ideological bias... Again.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ideological-bias-again/818270>\
**Category:** About This Message Board\
**Created:** [July 20, 2018, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ideological-bias-again/818270 "2018-07-20T13:44:39Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 8\
**Page:** 3

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2018, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ideological-bias-again/818270/41 "2018-07-31T12:37:17Z")

</div>

> [@Czarcasm](#):
>
> [Here are](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=856307) a [couple of](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=856549) recent threads on the subject.

By these standards, this site is inhospitable to pretty much everyone in the world.

Like I said, this site is a Disneyland for liberals and Arrakis for conservatives. A lot of it is due to the membership of the board and some of it is due to bias in moderation.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2018, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ideological-bias-again/818270/42 "2018-07-31T12:43:12Z")

</div>

> [@MrDibble](#):
>
> Did I say only Blacks? I said African-Americans and _non-White Africans._ Who aren’t all Black.

No but blacks are a subset of blacks and non-white Africans.

> [@](#):
>
> And yes, having people be free to start entire threads on how your entire continent is functionally mentally disabled is kind of my idea of inhospitable. But that refers specifically to GD, not “this site”

Are you kidding? You think the preponderance of the posts in those threads are in support of this notion that Africans are mentally retarded or against?

Are you saying that this site is inhospitable because someone was allowed to start the thread in the first place?

By your definition of inhospitable, this site is a large ocean of arsenic to conservatives.

> [@](#):
>
> Maybe _your_ Disneyland experiences are different from what I’ve been told about. My wife doesn’t recall Mickey following her around calling her a congenital imbecile when she was there.

So who follows people around calling them congenital imbeciles? It seems to me that we very rarely see these threads and the OP usually gets their ass handed to them by the third post. How is the presence of one ^&#$ indicative of a hostile or inhospitable environment?

> [@](#):
>
> No, I could read all the words just fine.

Then I either wrote poorly or you read poorly.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2018, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ideological-bias-again/818270/43 "2018-07-31T12:45:06Z")

</div>

> [@MrDibble](#):
>
> No, it just requires a straightforward reading of the words you wrote.

Look upthread. Severalposters have already suggested how that statement might be read other than the way you read it.

> [@](#):
>
> Or are you offering a different literal meaning for "Why? Perhaps it [sic] racism?"No, this has nothing to do with which side you were arguing, and everything to do with your actual phrasing to me.

Yes I am suggesting that. I am saying that the side I was arguing on had EVERYTHING to do with why that post got a warning and others did not.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2018, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ideological-bias-again/818270/44 "2018-07-31T14:22:53Z")

</div>

> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#):
>
> Does it bother you that you have to make so many disclaimers about disagreeing with my position before you state your position regarding a questionable warning.

No. Why would I? My saying that I don’t agree with you is extremely useful to make my point. That I don’t agree with what you said, but still think your Warning was bogus is proof that I do not say what I am saying because of bias.

What I do find strange is that you keep asking me this question. What about the way I post suggests that I would write anything that I didn’t want to write? If what I want to say would bother me to say, then I just don’t say it.

I think disclaimers serve a useful tool in conversations. They can help people understand a lack of bias, as they do here. Or they can just preemptively avoid an argument with just a few extra words, while still getting the point across.

That doesn’t mean I always support them, but, then, when I don’t support them, I don’t make them.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2018, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ideological-bias-again/818270/45 "2018-07-31T14:24:47Z")

</div>

> [@iiandyiiii](#):
>
> I did, and if I understand the rules correctly (and I disagree with this particular rule), accusations of racism are expressly forbid outside of the Pit. But not accusations of having contempt, or assertions that a post is contemptuous, or assertions of shitting on people.

That has never been my understanding. And it seems at odds with the very situation you were involved in where people were talking about the term “whiteness” being racist.

We’ve always been able to discuss whether an idea is racist. We just aren’t allowed to call people racists.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2018, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ideological-bias-again/818270/46 "2018-07-31T16:03:18Z")

</div>

> [@BigT](#):
>
> No. Why would I? My saying that I don’t agree with you is extremely useful to make my point. That I don’t agree with what you said, but still think your Warning was bogus is proof that I do not say what I am saying because of bias.
> 
> What I do find strange is that you keep asking me this question. What about the way I post suggests that I would write anything that I didn’t want to write? If what I want to say would bother me to say, then I just don’t say it.
> 
> I think disclaimers serve a useful tool in conversations. They can help people understand a lack of bias, as they do here. Or they can just preemptively avoid an argument with just a few extra words, while still getting the point across.
> 
> That doesn’t mean I always support them, but, then, when I don’t support them, I don’t make them.

I’m not saying that you are biased. I thought you made the disclaimer in recognition of the hair trigger knee jerk reaction you might stir up by saying anything that wasn’t in direct opposition to anyone saying anything that wasn’t pre-approved by the politburo.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2018, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ideological-bias-again/818270/47 "2018-07-31T17:16:59Z")

</div>

> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#):
>
> I thought you made the disclaimer in recognition of the hair trigger knee jerk reaction you might stir up by saying anything that wasn’t in direct opposition to anyone saying anything that wasn’t pre-approved by the politburo.

Putting aside the convuluted structure of this sentence, weren’t you complaining about mind reading in the OP?

And what evidence do you have that this exists? When has anyone ever had a problem on this board because they spoke up in defense of one of the board’s conservatives? When I happen to be in agreement with something that one of our conservative posters posted, I’ve said so. And I’ve never had anybody tell me “Don’t do that, Nemo. You’re not allowed to agree with anyone who’s on the board’s enemy list.”

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2018, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ideological-bias-again/818270/48 "2018-08-09T11:53:26Z")

</div>

> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
>
> Putting aside the convuluted structure of this sentence, weren’t you complaining about mind reading in the OP?
> 
> And what evidence do you have that this exists? When has anyone ever had a problem on this board because they spoke up in defense of one of the board’s conservatives? When I happen to be in agreement with something that one of our conservative posters posted, I’ve said so. And I’ve never had anybody tell me “Don’t do that, Nemo. You’re not allowed to agree with anyone who’s on the board’s enemy list.”

My mind reading does not result in warnings.

You don’t ever recall seeing people piled on for making statements that defend a conservative position with accusations of racism or trumpism or shit like that? Even when they don’t actually hold those positions?

[Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ideological-bias-again/818270.md?page=2)
