# Idioms like "Your dog needs trained". Who, what, where, etc.? **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [October 17, 2009, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idioms-like-your-dog-needs-trained-who-what-where-etc/514170 "2009-10-17T22:37:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![zweisamkeit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zweisamkeit/32/4360_2.png) [@zweisamkeit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zweisamkeit)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2009, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idioms-like-your-dog-needs-trained-who-what-where-etc/514170/61 "2009-10-21T21:37:08Z")
> [@SlowMindThinking](#): > > I always thought “yous” came from Allentown. My grandparents were originally from Wilkes-Barre and they definitely said “youse”. My grandma will say things like, “do any of youse want some ice cream?”, “what do youse need?”, etc. I occasionally say it without thinking, which gets gentle mocking around here. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2009, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idioms-like-your-dog-needs-trained-who-what-where-etc/514170/62 "2009-10-21T22:07:28Z")
> [@pancakes3](#): > > slippy? careful it’s slippy outside? or is my buddy from the 412 just messing with me? I say slippy on occasion. It’s along the lines of when it’s really cold, it’s brrskis. I have no idea where those uses came from. My mom will occasionally say “youse guys,” but it’s also not used seriously. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2009, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idioms-like-your-dog-needs-trained-who-what-where-etc/514170/63 "2009-10-22T00:25:40Z")
Thanks for the etymology lesson, **flodnak**. I, too, had always assumed that “redd up” was cognate to “ready”. My family’s from Johnstown and I’m from Cleveland, and “slippy” sounds unusual but not odd to me (I think my granpap used to say it). But I don’t think I’ve ever heard “bathed” with a short A, nor “striped” to rhyme with “biped”. And I associate “youse” with New York/New Jersey accents, not anything Pennsylvanian. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2009, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idioms-like-your-dog-needs-trained-who-what-where-etc/514170/64 "2009-10-22T00:29:11Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > But I don’t think I’ve ever heard “bathed” with a short A, nor “striped” to rhyme with “biped”. My PA says bath’d. She’s from SE Ohio, but her parents were from Kentucky. I don’t know if I remember anyone else ever saying it. ---
**Author:** ![SlowMindThinking](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@SlowMindThinking](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlowMindThinking)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2009, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idioms-like-your-dog-needs-trained-who-what-where-etc/514170/65 "2009-10-22T03:30:25Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Thanks for the etymology lesson, **flodnak**. I, too, had always assumed that “redd up” was cognate to “ready”. > > My family’s from Johnstown and I’m from Cleveland, and “slippy” sounds unusual but not odd to me (I think my granpap used to say it). But I don’t think I’ve ever heard “bathed” with a short A, nor “striped” to rhyme with “biped”. And I associate “youse” with New York/New Jersey accents, not anything Pennsylvanian. I don’t know if it is the accent or what, but the “yous” from northeast PA is pronounced more like “use”, just like a plural “you”, than like the “youse” caricature that I think of with NY/NJ. ---
**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2009, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idioms-like-your-dog-needs-trained-who-what-where-etc/514170/66 "2009-10-22T06:08:03Z")
> [@Cazzle](#): > > “\_\_\_\_\_ needs \_\_\_\_\_ed”, and “anymore” used in place of “nowadays” form the backbone of my proposal to nuke the US from orbit (it’s the only way to be sure). What, the whole country? Most of us don’t use either construction. It would be like nuking all of Canada because we find folks in Quebec insufferable. ---
**Author:** ![pancakes3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ba9def/32.png) [@pancakes3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pancakes3)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2009, 10:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idioms-like-your-dog-needs-trained-who-what-where-etc/514170/67 "2009-10-22T10:37:30Z")
interesting note on the brrskis. doneskis and brewskis are also pennsylvanian then also? well, brewskis is pretty universal whenever i’ve encountered it, but doneskis is another favorite of my midwestern friends. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2009, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idioms-like-your-dog-needs-trained-who-what-where-etc/514170/68 "2009-10-22T15:07:15Z")
> [@pancakes3](#): > > interesting note on the brrskis. doneskis and brewskis are also pennsylvanian then also? well, brewskis is pretty universal whenever i’ve encountered it, but doneskis is another favorite of my midwestern friends. I’m in SE Ohio, just to be clear. Doneski or doneskis is fairly common here. Brewskis is very common. No idea where this sort of faux Polish speak is coming from. ---
**Author:** ![Sailboat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sailboat/32/461_2.png) [@Sailboat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sailboat)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2009, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idioms-like-your-dog-needs-trained-who-what-where-etc/514170/69 "2009-10-22T18:24:26Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > I accept that this is a dialect, but it just sounds bone ignorant to me. This idiom needs stamped out! ---
**Author:** ![yabob](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yabob/32/2821_2.png) [@yabob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yabob)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2009, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idioms-like-your-dog-needs-trained-who-what-where-etc/514170/70 "2009-10-22T18:38:09Z")
> [@elfkin477](#): > > What, the whole country? Most of us don’t use either construction. It would be like nuking all of Canada because we find folks in Quebec insufferable. Not to mention that he’s from Oz, which hardly has a claim on being arbiters of proper use of the Queen’s English. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idioms-like-your-dog-needs-trained-who-what-where-etc/514170.md?page=3)