[Trinity]Nobody ever makes the first one.[/Trinity]
What you’re speaking of pravnik is regularly argued in the building construction industry. On one hand, the duty to prevent is spoken of requiring signage, fencing, and so forth. OTOH, it has been argued that fencing and signage makes the hazard more attractive, essentially daring the party to act in defiance of said signage and fencing.
A DIYD,DIYD scenario is thereby created.
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Y’know, if one or more of these idiot children had managed to kill themselves, they’d have made the world a better place by removing one or more idiots.
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So the idiot parents think the garage is at fault? Guess the garage should just be razed to the ground (and the debris hauled away to leave a nice, smooth spot). After all, the idiot children might take it into their idiot heads to try skating down the in ramp while cars are entering, or decide to drink themselves into a stupor and pass out, drowning in their own vomit, or any of a number of other stupid, life-threatening things. Apparently (in the view of the idiot parents) this garage is too dangerous to exist.
The garage’s should sue the kid’s parents for their idiot offspring’s use of their facilities in such a foolish and irresponsible way which has resulted in serious bad press for their businesses.
Label found on the suit of a Superman costume:
Suit does NOT enable child to fly.
It all makes sense now.
Word. Seriously.
That’s a sig waiting to happen.
Thing o’ beauty, that is.
Christ on a cracker…
How the hell could it come to this? The parents should be happy that the damn kid didn’t die. But no! They have to blame someone else. Anyone but themselves.
I swear this country is turning into one huge clusterfuck. I mean this goes along with everything else. What the hell ever happened to accepting your problems and dealing with them. This is, by the way the same source of all of these fuckers going around getting offended at everything. You know, sometimes you need to be told when you are fucking stupid, or that you aren’t good enough. But we’d rather just be content with our make-believe world that tells us that everything is peachy. We go to great lengths to assure that nobody gets their feelings hurt, or that they get their bones broken. But the problem is that people need to get their feelings hurt sometimes, or they need to get their bones broken sometimes so they don’t move on to more ridiculous things.
There’s a DVD out called Jump London, where these “athletes” run along the edges of buildings and jump from rooftop to rooftop.
I’ve seen similar videos online, as well.
Example here (warning, link contains a video).
So if kids saw this and thought it was cool (hey, even I thought it was pretty awesome), I can picture them trying it. But if the parents are itching to sue, why the parking garage? I’d think the makers of the videos would be a much easier target.
Didn’t this ‘free running’ thing start in France? I’m sure the French are behind this.
Why the makers of the video? They are only documenting what takes place. They have told the truth. How could that make them liable? Why not the people who are actually running and jumping off the rooftops?
What I dislike about that case is that it implied that we’re is required to post warnings for everything everywhere.
Well, they do go along with it. There’s too many lawyers period.
Anybody who’s ever seen a Hollywood film knows that alleys are conveniently filled with one wino, a bottle in the foreground which can easily be avoided, suspiciously clean and dry newspapers which rustle and float impressively, and piles of cardboard boxes suitable for both stunt driving and stunt falls.
Just don’t land on the bottle, that’s all.
Someone’s gotta disagree with all this “Oh, we’re so smart, those people are so greedy and irresponsible” love fest.
The article linked stated that the garage KNEW of at least one previous jumper who had fallen. They were aware that morons were using their garage to do stupid things.
Based on the crappy photos from the local news program (and does local news ever produce any other kind of photos?) it appeared that one ramp was about 6 foot higher than the other ramp, with an 8? ft gap between. (Yeah local news! Don’t bother presenting us with this easily obtained and pertinent information!) So anyway, the garages knew this was happening. They knew that this apparently easy jump was attracting morons, and that one of them had already fallen. And yet, they failed to do anything to stop the jumping.
Now, if I was in charge of maintenance, and I found out that someone died by this stupid action, my first response would be “What a fricking idiot!” But my second response would be guilt, as I would know that had I bothered to chunk up a lousy $5000 to put in a lousy chain link fence, a dumb young kid might be alive still to grow up and learn not to be so dumb.
If the garage owners were not going to take any action themselves, a lawsuit is a reasonable action to take to focus the attention of the garages on the problem. Them being the target of a lawsuit is not the fault of greedy lawyers. It is not the fault of people failing to take responsibility for their own actions. It is the fault of the garage for failing to take reasonable, simple, common sense action when the problem was presented to them prior ot this kid’s fall.
Sorry, but I find that to be profoundly flawed logic.
If I apply your standard, then I could erect an addition on your house that was structurally unsound, because you asked me to do it.
Your physician could perform an operation on you that might have severe side effects, because you asked him/her to do so.
The list goes on from there, but in the two examples I’ve cited, neither your doctor or I would go along with your request, because we are professionals. Those who practice law can’t claim to be acting at the behest of their clients and expect that to exculpate them from the societal price of their wrongdoing.
Er… speaking as someone who has signed more surgical consent forms than tax returns, this is almost always the case. Almost any invasive surgery might have serious consequences, including infection, internal bleeding, and death. That is why, in fact, you sign the consent forms: you are acknowledging that the likelihood of the various risks has been explained to you.
Just a nitpick of your choice of analogy. Do carry on with your argument.
You are correct-my bad choise of phrasing. Perhaps the analogy would be more sound had I stated that a physician will not simply produce a release form and indulge the patient in whatever procedure they request. Some requests could be medically unsound, and as such a competent clinician would decline to perform them.
Wait until the lawsuit fails.
You’ve obviously never heard of “class action lawsuits”.
At this level of stupidity, it would probably be easier to try and educate the garages.
I can’t believe teens do such amazingly stupid thing nowadays. I mean, it’s not like we were climbing up electrical poles and in abandonned stone quarries when I was…err…I meant…
Forget about it…