# Idiot Trump wants security cooperation with Russia

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idiot-trump-wants-security-cooperation-with-russia/818420>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [July 23, 2018, 10:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idiot-trump-wants-security-cooperation-with-russia/818420 "2018-07-23T10:27:00Z")\
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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2018, 10:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idiot-trump-wants-security-cooperation-with-russia/818420/1 "2018-07-23T10:27:00Z")

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> **[Trump wants to work with Russia on infosec. Security experts: lol no](https://www.theregister.com/2018/07/17/us_russia_cooperation_non_starter/)**
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> Thanks for Putin that out there

Yeah, right. Russia’s actions are well-attested. This is going to go nowhere fast.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2018, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idiot-trump-wants-security-cooperation-with-russia/818420/2 "2018-07-23T14:09:57Z")

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Shit happens faster and faster. It’s firm policy this morning, by noon it isn’t, and by quitting time, it never happened.

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2018, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idiot-trump-wants-security-cooperation-with-russia/818420/3 "2018-07-23T17:18:45Z")

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If Trump is so pro-Russia, why is he demanding that NATO allies increase defense spending, rather than recommending that they decrease it? Their decreasing it would make Putin happy.

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2018, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idiot-trump-wants-security-cooperation-with-russia/818420/4 "2018-07-23T17:20:20Z")

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> [@Velocity](#):
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> If Trump is so pro-Russia, why is he demanding that NATO allies increase defense spending, rather than recommending that they decrease it? Their decreasing it would make Putin happy.

Did you mean to post that in another thread?

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2018, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idiot-trump-wants-security-cooperation-with-russia/818420/5 "2018-07-23T17:33:48Z")

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> [@Quartz](#):
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> Did you mean to post that in another thread?

No, I meant it in this thread. The notion that Trump is pro-Russia is exaggerated.

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2018, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idiot-trump-wants-security-cooperation-with-russia/818420/6 "2018-07-23T17:48:15Z")

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Or that NATO spending was a campaign position that he poorly understood but, by gum, he’s holding to it!

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**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2018, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idiot-trump-wants-security-cooperation-with-russia/818420/7 "2018-07-23T17:52:17Z")

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> [@Velocity](#):
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> If Trump is so pro-Russia, why is he demanding that NATO allies increase defense spending, rather than recommending that they decrease it? Their decreasing it would make Putin happy.

Demanding that NATO allies go above and beyond what they have already agreed to do destabilizes NATO and makes NATO membership less attractive.

This is exactly what Putin wants.
