# Idiots at the Ballpark **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 11, 2000, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idiots-at-the-ballpark/28923 "2000-08-11T03:12:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2000, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idiots-at-the-ballpark/28923/21 "2000-08-12T23:22:06Z")
**Bob Cos** I think the Eagle/'skins rivalry must go back to something I remember as a kid growing up around D.C. If I remember right, there were these two quarterbacks named Norm Snead and Sonny Jurgensen. I think they were involved somehow. šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![Montfort](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Montfort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Montfort)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2000, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idiots-at-the-ballpark/28923/22 "2000-08-14T02:15:49Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by minlokwat \* > **Then in the news clip that was shown down here in WaWa land, thereā€™s some moronic dude in an Eagles jersey saying that he was hoping to see Irvin carried out in a body bag rather than on a stretcher.** First off, since this is The Pit, Iā€™ll say ā€œwe already played the Body Bag game, and won.ā€ Then, Iā€™ll say that I went to a rival high school of Irvinā€™s down in Ft. Lauderdale and heā€™s a cock-sucker who deserves what he gets. And, if he paralyses himself while trying to make **an illegal play** (spearing), then so be it. But, since this is the SDMB, Iā€™m going to have to ask you to cite which Eagles player that was that said that. I live down in DC, too, and I pay a lot of attention when my Eagles play the Skins, and I sure donā€™t remember hearing that quote on the TV, or in the _Post_. ---
**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2000, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idiots-at-the-ballpark/28923/23 "2000-08-14T02:51:30Z")
> [@](#): > > But the afternoon was marred by a frightful neck injury to Michael Irvin, and a reaction from fans that was boorish even by Philadelphia standards. > > While Irvin lay motionless and teammates knelt in prayer in the first quarter, many of the 66,669 at Veterans Stadium cheered ā€“ first when realizing Irvin was down, then again when paramedics wheeled a stretcher onto the field. > > ā€œI know our fans pride themselves on being tough, but that wasnā€™t tough,ā€ said Eagles receiver Charles Johnson, whose 28-yard TD reception from Doug Pederson was the game-winner. ā€œThat was just plain ignorant. ā€¦ I was embarrassed to stand on the sideline.ā€ > > ā€œThatā€™s ignorance and stupidity,ā€ Deion Sanders said. ā€œWe deserve better than that.ā€ > > Emmitt Smith, said, ā€œIt disgusted me to death. This is just a game. Life, paralyzation and death are a reality. Sport is sport.ā€ From [here](http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/news/1999/10/10/cowboys_eagles_ap/) Posted without comment. ---
**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2000, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idiots-at-the-ballpark/28923/24 "2000-08-14T03:17:50Z")
Screw my ā€œno commentā€ comment! > [@](#): > > Replays showed that as he was being tackled by Eagles cornerback Bobby Taylor, Irvin ducked his head to avoid a subsequent hit by fast-closing safety Tim Hauck. Irvinā€™s helmet and neck twisted upon impact with the turf, as Hauckā€™s leading helmet (an NFL no-no) drilled Irvin in the upper back, below his right shoulder. Hauckā€™s blow, however, did not appear to be a factor in Irvinā€™s injury. From [here](http://www.texnews.com/1998/1999/cowboys/escape1011.html) **Montfort** You got it backwards. Irvin wasnā€™t trying to make an illegal play. Maybe an eagle was and missed. The replay showed that that no one did anything wrong. It was just a freak play. Posted _without further/farther comment_ ---
**Author:** ![mouthbreather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a698b9/32.png) [@mouthbreather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mouthbreather)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2000, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idiots-at-the-ballpark/28923/25 "2000-08-14T12:56:44Z")
speakeasy: > [@](#): > > Thereā€™s a difference between being a vocal, enthusiastic fan and being an asshole ā€¦ If you canā€™t see the difference between the two then itā€™s pretty clear which group you belong to. Jesus Fucking Christ. Please re-read my statements again, such as these (from this very thread! SHEESH!) > [@](#): > > I do NOT condone profanity filled shouting with kids present. > [@](#): > > I am not trying to defend the fans who piss in the stands, or throw batteries, or who curse up a storm in front of children. Obviously, you can take it too far. If canā€™t tell who I am supporting and who Iā€™m not, I donā€™t even know why I am bothering to respond to you. Iā€™ll spell it out for you, n i c e a n d s l o w : Iā€™m not defending the asshole fans. I am defending a sport fanā€™s right to vocalize his displeasure in a poor performance on the field. The OP and luckyā€™s posts make it sound like all sporting fans should be like golf crowds. Iā€™m saying there is a happy medium that can be found. Now, for weirddave: > [@](#): > > Youā€™re a Stiller fan? Do you have a terrible towel? I think youā€™re gonna need it to wipe away the tears after the mighty Ravens get through with the yellow and black this year. Hehe! We loved kicking the shit out of Art Modellā€™s little brown puppies when they were still in Cleveland. Why do you think they got the hell out of Dodge??? Just because you take a crappy b-Team and move them to a new city and slap new uniforms on them, contenders they do not make. You can put lipstick and a dress on a log of shit, but it is still a log of shit. And before you start spouting off about Shannon Sharpe, let me tell you he doesnā€™t scare me one bit. Levon Kirkland (at 40 pounds heavier) can stay with him step for step, and I canā€™t WAIT until Captain Kirk gets an open shot at Sharpe running a little slant route. Mmmmmm šŸ™‚ getting goosebumps just thinking about it. I hated the putz when he was in Denver and Iā€™m actually glad your sorry team signed him, so the black and gold can whip him around like the bitch that he is. And Rod Woodson?? hee hee. Plaxico Burris will run circles around that old man. You better start a grassroots movement to save his knees, cause they wonā€™t hold up on their own for much longer. Holy shit, I just realized I shouldnā€™t be talking shit hereā€¦Ray Lewis might be reading! Tell him to keep the goon squad off of me, mmmkay? I can see weā€™re gonna get to know each other and be great friends this season! šŸ˜‰ šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2000, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idiots-at-the-ballpark/28923/26 "2000-08-14T19:30:09Z")
> [@](#): > > We loved kicking the shit out of Art Modellā€™s little brown puppies when they were still in Cleveland And I notice you did such a good job of that last year against an _expansion team!_ > [@](#): > > And before you start spouting off about Shannon Sharpe, let me tell you he doesnā€™t scare me one bit. Sure. But thatā€™s fine. While your one quality linbacker is covering Sharpe, Ben Coates will be catching 10-15 yard crossing patterns all day long. Works for me. > [@](#): > > And Rod Woodson?? hee hee. Plaxico Burris will run circles around that old man. You better start a grassroots movement to save his knees, cause they wonā€™t hold up on their own for much longer. Iā€™ll take Rod Woodson in a wheelchair with his knowledge over a rookie any day. Dosenā€™t matter, 'cuz Chris McAlister will be the person covering Burris like a blanket, if we even bother. Why cover the recievers when yā€™all have a quarterback whoā€™s made, what is it now, _two??_ completions in three preseason games? We probobly wonā€™t even bother to send the secondary onto the field. > [@](#): > > I can see weā€™re gonna get to know each other and be great friends this season! Absolutely! And I promise not to crow TOO much after our victories.šŸ˜‰ ---
**Author:** ![mouthbreather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a698b9/32.png) [@mouthbreather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mouthbreather)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2000, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idiots-at-the-ballpark/28923/27 "2000-08-14T20:22:42Z")
> [@](#): > > Sure. But thatā€™s fine. While your one quality linbacker is covering Sharpe, Ben Coates will be catching 10-15 yard crossing patterns all day long. Works for me. Excuse me while I pick myself up off of the floor from laughing so hard. Please allow me to introduce you to #92, Jason Gilden. Iā€™m sure youā€™ll wish you had never been introduced. > [@](#): > > Iā€™ll take Rod Woodson in a wheelchairā€¦ Actually, if you give him a wheelchair, he might be a bit fasterā€¦ > [@](#): > > Why cover the recievers when yā€™all have a quarterback whoā€™s made, what is it now, two?? completions in three preseason games? We probobly wonā€™t even bother to send the secondary onto the field. Actually he went 5 for 7 in the opener against Dallas, IIRC. Even so, with a beefed up offensive line and a healthy Fuamatu-Maā€™afala, even a mediocre QB is going to put our offense in much better shape than we were last year. And if he completely sucks again this year, We picked up Kent Graham. You might laugh at that, but, what, am I supposed to cringe at the mighty 1-2 punch of _Tony Banks and Trent Dilfer_? Now THAT is funny. > [@](#): > > Absolutely! And I promise not to crow TOO much after our victories We well see, my friend, we will see. You know your season opener is in 3RS, donā€™t you? The talk will soon become meaningless. Keep up your delusional faith in the Ravens, I actually think itā€™s kind of cute. And (so Iā€™ve heard), that Crow will taste mighty good sautĆ©ed in butter sauce. Just something you might want to keep in mind when you are wallowing in misery at 3:45 p.m. on September 3rd. ---
**Author:** ![minlokwat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/minlokwat/32/2844_2.png) [@minlokwat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/minlokwat)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2000, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idiots-at-the-ballpark/28923/28 "2000-08-15T00:27:21Z")
[QUOTE] \*Originally posted by Montfort \* \*\* > [@](#): > > But, since this is the SDMB, Iā€™m going to have to ask you to cite which Eagles player that was that said that. I live down in DC, too, and I pay a lot of attention when my Eagles play the Skins, and I sure donā€™t remember hearing that quote on the TV, or in the _Post_. \*\* It wasnā€™t a player but a fan. I remember seeing what appeared to be a local Philly news station interviewing a bunch of drunken boors at a local watering hole. And since this post has now veered off so far away from the OP and is now just a sound off for your local team, all I can say is that while you all are at home watching the Superbowl on TV, Iā€™ll be uhhhā€¦ watching the Superbowl from my TV but Iā€™ll be watching my teamā€¦ the Redskins. That wasnā€™t too good but you know what I mean. ---
**Author:** ![Moirai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/96bed5/32.png) [@Moirai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moirai)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2000, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idiots-at-the-ballpark/28923/29 "2000-08-16T00:08:51Z")
The funny thing about the garden-variety drunken asshole baseball expert is that most of them have NO CLUE how to manage a baseball game. Notice I didnā€™t say ā€œplay a positionā€, because many of them have. But thereā€™s a big difference between playing right field in the beer leagues and managing a professional baseball team. These yahoos are yelling about shit they will never understand, as the strategy of the game is beyond them, at least in their current frame of mind. Frankly, I donā€™t feel the need to boo the opposing team. If they hadnā€™t shown up, Iā€™d be out miniature golfing or something. I want a great game, not a hometown homerun derby. Iā€™d rather see a killer 2-1 pitchersā€™ duel any day. But that certainly makes me a minority among todayā€™s fans. Itā€™s not about team spirit, drinking at games, or anything else. Itā€™s about knowing how to behave in a public place. I try to make my behavior appropriate to my surroundings. My occasional vocal outburst will be very different depending on whether Iā€™m at a ball game SURROUNDED by people my own age, or if there are kids close by. I only wish people were that considerate when MY KID is at a game. I took my son to an Angels/Yankees game last week, oh my goodness! What an event! But no pissing in a paper cup that I noticedā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![Eissclam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/2acd7d/32.png) [@Eissclam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eissclam)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2000, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idiots-at-the-ballpark/28923/30 "2000-08-16T17:57:54Z")
Ok, I gotta share this story. I know this forum is ā€œThe Pitā€, so Iā€™ll first say ā€œPoop on all of you!ā€. Anyway, my wife and I were at a major league game. A father and son were behind us. Pitch comes in, a 87 mph fast ball. Father: ā€œJeez. Rag arm.ā€ Son: "RAAAAG ARRRMMM. Next pitch, another fast ball, 90 MPH Father: ā€œWhat a rag arm this guy has.ā€ Son: "RAAAAG ARRRMMM. Next pitch, change up. 70 mph or so. You know, slow. Father: ā€œHoly cow, what a rag arm.ā€ Son: "RAAAAG ARRRMMM. See ā€“ they breed these people. Eissclam [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idiots-at-the-ballpark/28923.md?page=1)