# Idle Thoughts is wrong. Again.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idle-thoughts-is-wrong-again/748786>\
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**Created:** [March 12, 2016, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idle-thoughts-is-wrong-again/748786 "2016-03-12T20:30:57Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 16\
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**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idle-thoughts-is-wrong-again/748786/41 "2016-03-15T23:20:46Z")

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I get that “whack” is slang that can mean _hit_ or _murder_. I had to look at the context to be sure what he meant, and I do think he meant _murder_. However, I don’t think that’s relevant to the topic.

**dalej42** was already stating that in his opinion MLB should handle baseball rules and let courts handle legal issues. It follows directly that murder is an issue for the courts and MLB should not do anything about it, except deal with the logistical issues of a player being arrested, detained, going to court, etc.

It’s certainly fair to make whomever expresses the opinion that MLB should only handle baseball rules and ignore legal issues to justify why murder should be treated differently, and if murder should be treated differently, why shouldn’t domestic violence. Maybe that’s for a different thread, but **mhendo** is not the one who introduced the topic of domestic violence to that thread, nor was he the only person engaging **dalej42** on that topic.

If **dalej42** is not supposed to inject domestic violence into threads, he already did so, and **mhendo** is not provoking him by replying to things he said in that thread. I can’t see how **mhendo** did anything wrong in that thread.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idle-thoughts-is-wrong-again/748786/42 "2016-03-16T03:00:46Z")

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I think the rule about being a jerk was violated

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**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idle-thoughts-is-wrong-again/748786/43 "2016-03-16T03:04:33Z")

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Yep, so do I, thus, the note.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idle-thoughts-is-wrong-again/748786/44 "2016-03-16T03:20:06Z")

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> [@Superdude](#):
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> I think the rule about being a jerk was violated

> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#):
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> Yep, so do I, thus, the note.

Aw, man! Couldn’t you have included SuperDude’s name, so he could get another sig?

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idle-thoughts-is-wrong-again/748786/45 "2016-03-16T03:24:17Z")

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Hey…I’ve been on this board for 15 years. I have received 2 compliments.

Regards,  
Superdude

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**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idle-thoughts-is-wrong-again/748786/46 "2016-03-16T14:48:45Z")

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Superdude is a super awesome guy and everyone should love him.

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**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idle-thoughts-is-wrong-again/748786/47 "2016-03-16T23:56:26Z")

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> [@Superdude](#):
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> I think the rule about being a jerk was violated

> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#):
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> Yep, so do I, thus, the note.

You state in the note that the explicit reason is **mhendo** seems to be provoking **dalej42** to violate a topic ban he has against him. I don’t see how **mhendo** could know there was a topic ban, nor do I see how **mhendo** ’s remark could _provoke_ **dalej42** when he’s already broached that topic numerous times in the thread. Given that his remark is also directly in line with **dalej42** ’s stated opinion, I don’t see any jerkish behavior on his part.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2016, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idle-thoughts-is-wrong-again/748786/48 "2016-03-17T02:52:06Z")

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**mhendo** makes a mention of his topic ban in the OP of this thread. In fact, he specifically mentions the topic of the ban, insofar as he corrected the moderator as to what it was about. Seems obvious to me that he did, in fact, know about it at the time, and he was antagonizing

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2016, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idle-thoughts-is-wrong-again/748786/49 "2016-03-17T03:47:07Z")

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> [@Superdude](#):
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> Hey…I’ve been on this board for 15 years. I have received 2 compliments.

Thanks, but no thanks.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2016, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idle-thoughts-is-wrong-again/748786/50 "2016-03-17T14:49:15Z")

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> [@Superdude](#):
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> Hey…I’ve been on this board for 15 years. I have received 2 compliments.

You’ll know you’re a star when you start receiving condiments.

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**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2016, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idle-thoughts-is-wrong-again/748786/51 "2016-03-17T14:58:57Z")

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> [@Irishman](#):
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> You state in the note

I don’t think we can expect the mods to know who and who does not know about various topic bans for various posters and that’s why I think a note is appropriate instead of a warning. If **Idle** had given him a warning I would be agreeing with you.

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**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2016, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idle-thoughts-is-wrong-again/748786/52 "2016-03-17T21:50:12Z")

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> [@Superdude](#):
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> **mhendo** makes a mention of his topic ban in the OP of this thread. In fact, he specifically mentions the topic of the ban, insofar as he corrected the moderator as to what it was about. Seems obvious to me that he did, in fact, know about it at the time, and he was antagonizing

He knew **dalej42** has a topic ban, but there is disagreement over what that topic ban is. If you have, for instance, a topic ban on Star Trek, and I make a comment about the plot arc of **Babylon 5** to you, I would find it very difficult to consider that provoking you about your topic ban. To me, this is exactly the same. The stated topic ban in the post by **engineer\_comp\_geek** is _all topics involving rape allegations_. Domestic Violence _might_ tangentially intersect rape, but usually is about abuse - hitting and the like. Murder is not rape. Ergo, nothing **mhendo** said relates to rape, the only ban he could know about.

> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#):
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> I don’t think we can expect the mods to know who and who does not know about various topic bans for various posters and that’s why I think a note is appropriate instead of a warning. If **Idle** had given him a warning I would be agreeing with you.

If **Idle Thoughts** had just said “ **dalej42** has a topic ban on domestic violence, so do not continue this line of discussion as it could be considered provoking,” I would not have any problem with the note. My problems are **Idle Thoughts** asserting that **mhendo** knows **dalej42** ’s topic ban is discussing domestic violence, and complaining that **mhendo** ’s post constitutes provoking when **dalej42** had already posted that topic several times in the thread. How can **mhendo** provoke **dalej42** to do something that he is already doing?

I do appreciate it is just a note, but the note seems misdirected to me.

I’m not asking for the note to be rescinded, whatever that might mean for a mod note. All I am looking for is recognition that the note is poorly worded, putting more blame on **mhendo** than he is due.

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**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2016, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idle-thoughts-is-wrong-again/748786/53 "2016-03-17T21:56:03Z")

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The note was poorly worded, putting more blame on **mhendo** than he is due.  
The note still stands.

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**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2016, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idle-thoughts-is-wrong-again/748786/54 "2016-03-17T22:21:20Z")

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Thank you for listening.

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**Author:** ![Leo\_Bloom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leo_bloom/32/10377_2.png) [@Leo\_Bloom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leo_Bloom)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2016, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idle-thoughts-is-wrong-again/748786/55 "2016-03-19T14:44:22Z")

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> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#):
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> I’m actually a guy, although I am known for the April fools joke I pulled where I had messaged people saying I was really female…

And we believe this why?

(Apologies if this critical point in the for-me-tl;dr-debate was addressed.)

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**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2016, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idle-thoughts-is-wrong-again/748786/56 "2016-03-19T20:40:42Z")

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**Leo Bloom** , you really should read the thread, or at least scan it for moderator instructions. Save you from embarrassing yourself.

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