# Idol finale

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idol-finale/496728>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [May 17, 2009, 6:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idol-finale/496728 "2009-05-17T06:55:48Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 17\
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**Author:** ![PunditLisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idol-finale/496728/261 "2009-05-22T11:54:42Z")

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> [@Hal\_Briston](#):
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> While you can certainly make a case for Jagger being #1 (and he’s unquestionably one of the tops), Plant doesn’t even belong in the conversation (at least not by any measuring stick I’d use to describe a quality frontman).

Robert Plant’s voice is like nails on the chalkboard to me. Ditto with Geddy Lee.

Best 3 frontmen, IMO, are/were:

Freddie Mercury (a natural showman with pipes of gold)  
Steve Perry (sexy as hell with a superhuman range)  
Roger Daltrey (his voice pales in comparison to the other two, but by God he can rock out a tune while making you want to remove your panties)

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idol-finale/496728/262 "2009-05-22T16:06:36Z")

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I think he’s going to need something _like_ Queen, rather than Queen itself. Not to knock Queen at all — I’m a big fan — but their kind of music has been done by other bands, including for example 10cc. Their “One Night in Paris” was a fucking masterpiece. And frankly, I think “Bohemian Rhapsody” seems highly influenced by it.

Anyway, rockers get old just like everybody else. So Adam needs to form a new band.

Speaking of frontmen, there are some women of note as well. Grace Slick comes to mind. Mama Cass. Even Carly Simon. I’m sure there are others.

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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idol-finale/496728/263 "2009-05-22T16:23:10Z")

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> [@Liberal](#):
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> Speaking of frontmen, there are some women of note as well. Grace Slick comes to mind. Mama Cass. Even Carly Simon. I’m sure there are others.

Debbie Harry  
Chrissie Hynde

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idol-finale/496728/264 "2009-05-22T20:19:31Z")

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Loved the parts with Queen and KISS best. Cyndi Lauper was too blonde/goth, and Allison outsang her anyway.

I’m bummed that Kris won, but I won’t worry about Adam’s future.

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**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idol-finale/496728/265 "2009-05-22T20:43:52Z")

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I’d be curious to see a list of the the Top 10 most successful Idol contestants (by record sales.) Off the top of my head I’d guess (not in order):

Kelly Clarkson (winner)  
Carrie Underwood (winner)  
Chris Daughtry  
Fantasia? (winner)  
Jennifer Hudson?  
David Cook (winner)  
Bucky Covington?  
Clay Aiken

That’s all I got.

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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idol-finale/496728/266 "2009-05-22T20:52:30Z")

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Looks like you underestimated [Clay Aiken](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top-selling_American_Idol_alumni)

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**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idol-finale/496728/267 "2009-05-22T21:02:12Z")

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> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#):
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> Looks like you underestimated [Clay Aiken](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top-selling_American_Idol_alumni)

Why? He was on my list. I seriously **over-rated** Bucky Covington. 😛

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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idol-finale/496728/268 "2009-05-22T21:03:57Z")

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> [@Southern\_Yankee](#):
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> Why? He was on my list. I seriously **over-rated** Bucky Covington. 😛

Oops, I missed the “not in order” disclaimer.

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**Author:** ![well\_he\_s\_back](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/3ab097/32.png) [@well\_he\_s\_back](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/well_he_s_back)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2009, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idol-finale/496728/269 "2009-05-23T03:51:13Z")

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If it hasn’t been mentioned already (sorry) David Cook’s charity single of “Permanent” is finally up at itunes. Good cause - go get it.

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**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2009, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idol-finale/496728/270 "2009-05-23T04:40:09Z")

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> [@Liberal](#):
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> Speaking of frontmen, there are some women of note as well. Grace Slick comes to mind. Mama Cass. Even Carly Simon. I’m sure there are others.

Carly never fronted a band. Grace Slick sucks.

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**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2009, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idol-finale/496728/271 "2009-05-23T04:44:42Z")

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> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#):
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> Looks like you underestimated [Clay Aiken](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top-selling_American_Idol_alumni)

Cool! thanks for the link.

And Arista dropped hicks after his first album? Damn.

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**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2009, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idol-finale/496728/272 "2009-05-23T05:39:00Z")

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From [Rolling Stone:](http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/index.php/2009/05/22/exclusive-queens-brian-may-ponders-american-idol-adam-lambert-as-new-frontman/)

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> **Exclusive: Queen’s Brian May ponders American Idol Adam Lambert as new frontman.**
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> After Adam Lambert’s killer performance with Queen on Wednesday night’s season finale of American Idol, rumors flew that he had already been offered a job singing with the band. That’s slightly premature, according to the band’s guitarist, Brian May. “Amongst all that furor, there wasn’t really a quiet moment to talk,” May tells Rolling Stone in an e-mail interview. “But [drummer Roger Taylor] and I are definitely hoping to have a meaningful conversation with him at some point. It’s not like we, as Queen, would rush into coalescing with another singer just like that. It isn’t that easy. But I’d certainly like to work with Adam. That is one amazing instrument he has there.”

Isn’t that interesting. Queen is actively soliciting Lambert to join them.

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**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2009, 9:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idol-finale/496728/273 "2009-05-23T09:22:38Z")

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> [@Polerius](#):
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> Adam is no Freddie Mercury. Not by a long shot.

Evidently Brian May doesn’t agree with you. I think I’m going with May on this one.

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2009, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idol-finale/496728/274 "2009-05-23T13:11:42Z")

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> [@Stoid](#):
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> Grace Slick sucks.

Don’t you want somebody to love?

> [@Sam\_Stone](#):
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> From [Rolling Stone:](http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/index.php/2009/05/22/exclusive-queens-brian-may-ponders-american-idol-adam-lambert-as-new-frontman/)
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> Isn’t that interesting. Queen is actively soliciting Lambert to join them.

I don’t think your exerpt says what you think it says. There are “rumors” that are “slightly premature”. Brian May says, “It’s not like we, as Queen, would rush into coalescing with another singer just like that. It isn’t that easy.”

I wouldn’t characterize all that as “Queen is _actively soliciting_ Lambert to join them.”

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**Author:** ![Luna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9fc348/32.png) [@Luna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Luna)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2009, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idol-finale/496728/275 "2009-05-26T18:52:24Z")

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hello everybody!

i am what you call a lurker, and i have been lurker for years; but i just have to unload on this thread: if what that “weird” thing you think adam lambert has been doing all this season, how come you don’t comment on that “weirder” thing kiss gene simmons did on the finale show?!!

and i have to agree with one of the posters, adam lambert is / will be big in asia! i am not going to speak for all citizens of asia, but i am confidently sure if he ever comes to my part of the world, you will see me as one of the mindless teeming screaming crowd!

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**Author:** ![Rachael\_Rage](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/71c47a/32.png) [@Rachael\_Rage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rachael_Rage)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2009, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idol-finale/496728/276 "2009-05-28T14:00:20Z")

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I think it was a previous thread, but there was some discussion about Adam Lambert’s imminent weight problem. I have to report that having now seen him, in person, mere feet away, that such reports are greatly exaggerated. His body is, how can I say…

[Randy]_The smokin’ hot lava bomb!_[/Randy]

Besides that, he seems exactly as nice and genuine and unassuming as he ever appeared on-camera. I saw a talk-show taping, and he was professional and courteous with all the tech people and P.A.'s and such, smiling and thanking everyone, signing a few autographs and apologizing for not being able to stick around for more.

And that hair, OMG the hair is unbelievable. That black-blue-green iridescent thing is extraordinary in natural light.

I predict there will be unprecedented panty-tossing during the AI tour this summer. The guy has the Rock Star “It” factor, and it’s pretty cool to see that up close.

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**Author:** ![Rebo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rebo/32/13005_2.png) [@Rebo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rebo)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2009, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idol-finale/496728/277 "2009-05-28T14:21:24Z")

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I thought his skin was a bit pockmarked on my HD TV. Is that true? Or is it just large pores?-

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