# Idol finale

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idol-finale/496728>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [May 17, 2009, 6:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idol-finale/496728 "2009-05-17T06:55:48Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2009, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idol-finale/496728/81 "2009-05-20T17:40:31Z")

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Incidentally, while I was dismissive of the idea that Kara be coddled, I didn’t mean for you to take it so personally. It’s lovely that you want to defend her, I’m just incapable of understanding why you find it necessary to do so. She’s a grown up, extremely well compensated, and she can’t have someone just say, gee, that song sucks? I make a lot less than she does as a writer and have to live with much harsher criticism by nobodies on the Internet. It comes with the business. I do hear writers complain about it, even successful ones, and my response is the same.

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**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2009, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idol-finale/496728/82 "2009-05-20T17:51:07Z")

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For the record, no cringe here either. I’m glad he said it.

We also don’t know how much input Kara had in writing that song with the two other people so who knows how much it really hurt her feelings. Maybe she just helped w/ a chord structure or something and ended up w/ a songwriting credit. It probably hurt the other two writers’ feelings more, but who cares?

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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2009, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idol-finale/496728/83 "2009-05-20T17:57:08Z")

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Me and my wife only watched the performances, did not watch any of the judges comments. We both are big Adam fans. Kris is ok, talented and bland. I think Adam will do fine whether he wins or not.

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**Author:** ![DudleyGarrett](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d9b06d/32.png) [@DudleyGarrett](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DudleyGarrett)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2009, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idol-finale/496728/84 "2009-05-20T18:14:15Z")

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> [@cricetus](#):
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> Incidentally, while I was dismissive of the idea that Kara be coddled, I didn’t mean for you to take it so personally. It’s lovely that you want to defend her, **I’m just incapable of understanding** why you find it necessary to do so. She’s a grown up, extremely well compensated, and she can’t have someone just say, gee, that song sucks? I make a lot less than she does as a writer and have to live with much harsher criticism by nobodies on the Internet. It comes with the business. I do hear writers complain about it, even successful ones, and my response is the same.

Exactly.

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**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2009, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idol-finale/496728/85 "2009-05-20T18:26:33Z")

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What the hell. You seem to want this thing to be about you being a good person and us being bad people instead of about what spoiled millionaires on TV can and can not be told. Whatever.

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**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2009, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idol-finale/496728/86 "2009-05-20T19:28:16Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> Yes, and yes. Your Idol judges at work: now with 25% more blather!

Almost as good as last week: “Dude, you’re one of the top three here tonight!”  
:smack:

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**Author:** ![Barrett\_Bonden](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5e9695/32.png) [@Barrett\_Bonden](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barrett_Bonden)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idol-finale/496728/87 "2009-05-21T00:12:07Z")

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Okay, that number was a weird choice. On the bright side, the top thirteen just called the audience tools.

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**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idol-finale/496728/88 "2009-05-21T00:20:40Z")

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This Cook song is excruciatingly sad.

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**Author:** ![RachelChristine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7ab992/32.png) [@RachelChristine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RachelChristine)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idol-finale/496728/89 "2009-05-21T00:28:31Z")

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Love David Cook! That song is amazing. Since I have a friend going through brain cancer right now, I will totally be buying that song tonight.

On a lighter note, I also love Norman Gentle, and Ryan in Norman’s glasses/headband. Perfect AI moment!

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**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idol-finale/496728/90 "2009-05-21T00:42:53Z")

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Kris is outsinging Keith Urban.

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**Author:** ![BigBertha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d78d45/32.png) [@BigBertha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigBertha)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idol-finale/496728/91 "2009-05-21T00:44:27Z")

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Yay Norman.  
Cook’s singing made me realize he is better than both of the top 2 this year.

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**Author:** ![RachelChristine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7ab992/32.png) [@RachelChristine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RachelChristine)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idol-finale/496728/92 "2009-05-21T00:46:40Z")

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Jason Mraz is so awesome. I love Anoop and Alexis. Yay for that set! (My three year old is now running around singing “Geek in the Pink”. She loves Mraz too.)

Not a big Keith Urban fan, but LOVE Kris doing that song. Very awesome.  
Alexis really knows how to move during Glamorous.

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**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idol-finale/496728/93 "2009-05-21T00:49:07Z")

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Did they just have to use the 7-second delay on Fergie, or was that just another example of this show’s poor production values?

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**Author:** ![RachelChristine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7ab992/32.png) [@RachelChristine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RachelChristine)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idol-finale/496728/94 "2009-05-21T00:49:31Z")

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Allison is so cute introducing Fergie and the BEPs.  
But those stripey people are weirding me out!

Did everyone’s sound and picture just mess up?

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**Author:** ![Charger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/df788c/32.png) [@Charger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Charger)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idol-finale/496728/95 "2009-05-21T00:53:10Z")

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> [@RachelChristine](#):
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> Did everyone’s sound and picture just mess up?

I don’t know the song, but I thought I heard something that rhymes with “Saget” and, among the words that rhyme with that and would maybe make an appearance in the next line, they may have had to cut away from something offensive.

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**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idol-finale/496728/96 "2009-05-21T00:55:41Z")

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The girls were right about Bikini Girl. And Kara is outsinging her.

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**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idol-finale/496728/97 "2009-05-21T00:59:33Z")

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I love that “I think you’re the father of one of my kids” commercial.

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**Author:** ![well\_he\_s\_back](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/3ab097/32.png) [@well\_he\_s\_back](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/well_he_s_back)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idol-finale/496728/98 "2009-05-21T01:09:43Z")

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a lot of good moments so far. Cookie & his fine band made me tear up. (My daddy died from brain cancer - you bet I’m supporting DC’s fave charity. What a cool thing for him to do.)

Gentle was funny. Glad Alexis Grace got a moment in the spotlight. Loved Kris & Keith!  
and “Time after Time” is my favorite Cyndi Lauper song! Go Allison.

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**Author:** ![BigBertha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d78d45/32.png) [@BigBertha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigBertha)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idol-finale/496728/99 "2009-05-21T01:24:30Z")

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KISS!!!

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**Author:** ![Barrett\_Bonden](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5e9695/32.png) [@Barrett\_Bonden](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barrett_Bonden)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idol-finale/496728/100 "2009-05-21T01:31:59Z")

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Steve Martin is awesome.

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