# If a woman has a past relationship with a black man she's tainted forever. Why? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [July 5, 2013, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-a-woman-has-a-past-relationship-with-a-black-man-shes-tainted-forever-why/662743 "2013-07-05T18:45:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 16
**Author:** ![grude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47774/32.png) [@grude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grude)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2015, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-a-woman-has-a-past-relationship-with-a-black-man-shes-tainted-forever-why/662743/301 "2015-03-20T23:24:53Z")
> [@drifter777](#): > > Yeah - this is pretty close to the way I feel. And I will never say it is right. I’m just reacting to what I read and see in the local and national news. Like ISIS - I don’t want to get to know any of those guys and judge them on their individual merits, do you? Because if not then you are “condemning a collection of lower-class dark-skinned criminals because its safer and easier” - and that’s racism. This is reminding me of those guys who say hey just because I exclusively fantasize about and have sex with men it doesn’t make me gay! ---
**Author:** ![dude77](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce73a5/32.png) [@dude77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dude77)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2015, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-a-woman-has-a-past-relationship-with-a-black-man-shes-tainted-forever-why/662743/302 "2015-03-20T23:33:23Z")
> [@orcenio](#): > > No, it’s racist (and quite sexist too). Noone’s gonna stop calling the sky blue on your account. whatever you want to call it … most people will gravitate to others that look like them … I guess all of china and japan are racist ‘bad’ people ? or how about the majority of blacks who gravitate towards each other or indians or … you get the picture ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2015, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-a-woman-has-a-past-relationship-with-a-black-man-shes-tainted-forever-why/662743/303 "2015-03-20T23:35:29Z")
> [@dude77](#): > > most people will gravitate to others that look like them … I think that’s an especially funny comment in this particular thread. ---
**Author:** ![AtomicDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ac91a4/32.png) [@AtomicDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AtomicDog)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2015, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-a-woman-has-a-past-relationship-with-a-black-man-shes-tainted-forever-why/662743/304 "2015-03-20T23:48:49Z")
> [@Matt37](#): > > I’d suspect some of it is cock insecurity as well. Black men are stereotyped as having larger penises than white guys, so any woman who’s been with a black guy, theoretically at least, isn’t going to enjoy the white dude’s tiny little penis. “It’s twue! It’s twue!” Forgive me if someone beat me to this quote. But this thread could use some Blazing Saddles. ---
**Author:** ![Nema98](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/d2c977/32.png) [@Nema98](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nema98)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2015, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-a-woman-has-a-past-relationship-with-a-black-man-shes-tainted-forever-why/662743/305 "2015-03-21T00:03:18Z")
For some it is pure racism, thinking that a woman is some how “destroyed” if she were involved with a black man. Oh and the cock insecurity thing. Also the flip side of the coin are men who have a fascination with their women sleeping with women, some even racist who get off seeing white women with black men. It angers and turns them on. For me my woman having been with a black man makes no more difference than any other man. Guys who have deep seated issue with black men, cocks, and white women weird me out. ---
**Author:** ![dude77](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce73a5/32.png) [@dude77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dude77)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2015, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-a-woman-has-a-past-relationship-with-a-black-man-shes-tainted-forever-why/662743/306 "2015-03-21T00:09:14Z")
I’ll never get the whole wanting to see your wife get slammed by another guy thing … and in front of you lol … that is just insane to me ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2015, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-a-woman-has-a-past-relationship-with-a-black-man-shes-tainted-forever-why/662743/307 "2015-03-21T00:23:13Z")
> [@drifter777](#): > > Since this thread exists and, as someone pointed out, the same thing has been debated in the past I would say it’s a real issue for some. > > I have no black friends and I don’t want to go out looking for black friends. My whole life I’ve lived in overwhelmingly white areas of a city. Zero blacks in school - from K - 12. When I see young, black man I see ghetto. I see crime. I see a person with no respect for others. The reasons? Who cares? That’s what I think and that’s what I feel. I have never had a problem, personally, with a black person and that’s largely because I rarely interact with them. So I don’t understand why it’s difficult to understand that black people are strange to me. I believe much of the news I read and watch that, to me, show black people in a racist, slanted light. Here’s my question: what does racist mean to you? To me it means that I’ve already formed an opinion - negative or positive - about a race of people. It’s judging the whole race and not seeing everyone as individuals. Ok, I’m guilty. I don’t want a Muslim on the same airplane as I’m on. I judge Muslims to be radical murderers even if they don’t pull triggers or set off bombs themselves. I believe they are complicit by their lack of action to stop the active radicals. I firmly believe that my position is right in this case. I fear Muslims with what I consider to be sound reasoning. > > 4.7 % of all “young” black males are in prison. For whites its less than 1%. Hispanic is 1.8 %. These numbers are significant and prove out that anyone should be afraid and take steps to avoid young, black males. > > I’m racist - aren’t we all to some degree? Do you think Asian’s are smarter than whites? Do you think the Irish drink more than others? > > I told my daughter to never bring a black guy home because it would be the last time she was welcome in my home. I wanted to scare her away from young black men. Do you really blame me? Other than blind, phony liberal thinking can anyone give me a reason that I was wrong to tell this to my daughter? Not a philosophy, a reason? > > Its my right to decide who I want to date and if a woman dated a black man I would consider her tainted - TO ME. Not to you - to me. You Sir are a real intellectual, a worthy addition to our board. We love a well thought out argument around here. Did you bring pie? Btw., what is your favorite method of figuring out if a woman had been tainted by a black lover if you’re not sure.? Can you buy a test for that? ---
**Author:** ![davethehammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davethehammer/32/7317_2.png) [@davethehammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davethehammer)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2015, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-a-woman-has-a-past-relationship-with-a-black-man-shes-tainted-forever-why/662743/308 "2015-03-21T00:25:10Z")
> [@astro](#): > > In looking around the web and IRL there seems to be a number of white men who will not consider dating a white woman who has dated or had a past sexual relationship with a black man. In some cases if they find out about her interracial dating history only after they begin dating they will make something else up as to why they are bailing on the relationship. > > Obviously it’s racist on it’s face, but the strength of the attitude surprises me. Even fairly attractive and accomplished women are shunned as some sort of unclean trash if they have dated black men. I only see this attitude with respect to white men judging white women for dating black men. Possibly other scenarios exist, but this is the main one I see. This race centric judgment does not seem to be present for any other interracial hookups. > > Why does this extreme antipathy exist? While it’s obnoxiously racist it’s not just poor rednecks espousing this attitude. I’ve seen this attitude ranging from trailer parks to the executive suites. And oddly some people who have this attitude aren’t that overtly racist in real world behavior, it’s just that specific hookup scenario that makes them lock the doors on even considering women who have dated black men. > > Why the extreme attitude? this doesn’t prove racism. It proves some sort of myth. ---
**Author:** ![davethehammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davethehammer/32/7317_2.png) [@davethehammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davethehammer)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2015, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-a-woman-has-a-past-relationship-with-a-black-man-shes-tainted-forever-why/662743/309 "2015-03-21T00:27:13Z")
> [@AtomicDog](#): > > “It’s twue! It’s twue!” > > Forgive me if someone beat me to this quote. But this thread could use some Blazing Saddles. which would be funnier with a video clip :D:) ---
**Author:** ![Nawth\_Chucka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c57346/32.png) [@Nawth\_Chucka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nawth_Chucka)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2015, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-a-woman-has-a-past-relationship-with-a-black-man-shes-tainted-forever-why/662743/310 "2015-03-21T05:06:26Z")
> [@davethehammer](#): > > this doesn’t prove racism. It proves some sort of myth. Speaking of myths, there’s been dancing around one in this thread that’s nowt to do w/ race, directly; but I’ll take a swing at it anyway. Dear Vagina-non-havers; The vagina changes shape and size a lot over a woman’s lifetime. While it \*\*has \*\*an orifice it isn’t a sphincter; even though it grows temporarily wider to allow for the passage or insertion of various things, it also then collapses in much the same fashion as an umbrella. Over its lifetime it may lose elasticity, but there’s a good reason why a speculum has to be used at subsequent OB/GYN exams and not only the first one; it doesn’t stay open in any sort of permanent way once it’s open. Now you can go back to talking about taints and the sudden appearance of more of them crawling out of the woodwork. Hey, drifter777, I’ve worked w/ ladies whose daddies told them the shit you told your daughter. Congratulations on making her life infinitely harder than it was already going to be w/ you as a sperm donor. Now any time she meets a black guy she could be interested in, or a black guy who’s interested in her, she has your nonsense racist hurdle to jump over in her head before she can make a decision of her own. I hope for her sake she’s a lesbian, then she won’t have to entertain the thought you stuck in her head before a reasonable person could stop you. ---
**Author:** ![Hershele\_Ostropoler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e47c2d/32.png) [@Hershele\_Ostropoler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hershele_Ostropoler)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2015, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-a-woman-has-a-past-relationship-with-a-black-man-shes-tainted-forever-why/662743/311 "2015-03-21T17:38:18Z")
> [@drifter777](#): > > Yeah - this is pretty close to the way I feel. And I will never say it is right. Except you have said that it’s normal. If that’s not you saying it’s right – or trying to convince yourself it’s right – I certainly can’t see it in any other light. ---
**Author:** ![Helena330](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/helena330/32/531_2.png) [@Helena330](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helena330)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2015, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-a-woman-has-a-past-relationship-with-a-black-man-shes-tainted-forever-why/662743/312 "2015-03-21T18:12:42Z")
**drifter777,** I’m wondering about taint transferrence. What if you slept with a tainted woman, but you didn’t learn of her taint until after you had sex? Does this taint you? Do you then taint untainted women with whom you may subsequently have sex? What about any CHILDREN? OMG, the children. What about white women who sleep with Hispanics? My future sex-life with racists is doomed if this applies to Hispanics. With love, tainted Helena ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2015, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-a-woman-has-a-past-relationship-with-a-black-man-shes-tainted-forever-why/662743/313 "2015-03-21T18:30:58Z")
> [@Helena330](#): > > What about white women who sleep with Hispanics? My future sex-life with racists is doomed if this applies to Hispanics. > > With love, tainted Helena Oh man, I’d hate to think I’ve been spreading my latino taint around to unsuspecting white women. ---
**Author:** ![even\_sven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/dfb087/32.png) [@even\_sven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/even_sven)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2015, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-a-woman-has-a-past-relationship-with-a-black-man-shes-tainted-forever-why/662743/314 "2015-03-21T19:05:50Z")
> [@dude77](#): > > whatever you want to call it … most people will gravitate to others that look like them … I guess all of china and japan are racist ‘bad’ people ? or how about the majority of blacks who gravitate towards each other or indians or … you get the picture Well, not every Chinese person is racist. But yeah, there is a lot of racism and that is bad. Try spending a couple years in rural China and tell me if you don’t get sick of the dumb stuff people feel it’s okay to say because you have light skin. ---
**Author:** ![chaika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chaika/32/405_2.png) [@chaika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chaika)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2015, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-a-woman-has-a-past-relationship-with-a-black-man-shes-tainted-forever-why/662743/315 "2015-03-22T00:34:38Z")
> [@drifter777](#): > > I’m racist - aren’t we all to some degree? Do you think Asian’s are smarter than whites? Do you think the Irish drink more than others? > > I told my daughter to never bring a black guy home because it would be the last time she was welcome in my home. I wanted to scare her away from young black men. Do you really blame me? Other than blind, phony liberal thinking can anyone give me a reason that I was wrong to tell this to my daughter? Not a philosophy, a reason? > > Its my right to decide who I want to date and if a woman dated a black man I would consider her tainted - TO ME. Not to you - to me. What is worse than a racist who loudly proclaims, “I’m not racist”? A racist who loudly proclaims, “I’m racist!” There’s still hope for people raised by racists. I don’t know how old your daughter is, but I very much hope she develops some more open-minded and enlightened attitudes than you display. And perhaps she will even learn some decent critical thinking skills. ---
**Author:** ![Umbridge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Umbridge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Umbridge)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2015, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-a-woman-has-a-past-relationship-with-a-black-man-shes-tainted-forever-why/662743/316 "2015-03-22T00:49:00Z")
Eh? Eleanor Roosevelt gave Franklin Delano Roosevelt polio, and she contracted polio from a man who happened to be black. Franklin Roosevelt nevertheless married her. All’s well that ends well. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2015, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-a-woman-has-a-past-relationship-with-a-black-man-shes-tainted-forever-why/662743/317 "2015-03-22T00:56:47Z")
> [@chaika](#): > > What is worse than a racist who loudly proclaims, “I’m not racist”? A racist who loudly proclaims, “I’m racist!” I don’t really agree. Because someone might actually believe the person saying they aren’t racist, and actually convinced themselves that they also “aren’t racist” for believing the same things. Having someone admit they are racist takes that fig leaf away. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2015, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-a-woman-has-a-past-relationship-with-a-black-man-shes-tainted-forever-why/662743/318 "2015-03-22T02:43:35Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > I don’t really agree. Because someone might actually believe the person saying they aren’t racist, and actually convinced themselves that they also “aren’t racist” for believing the same things. Having someone admit they are racist takes that fig leaf away. I think it depends on whether the “I’m racist!” person is defiant (_“Racism is bad but I’ll be racist anyway!”,_) or actually, sincerely believes racism to be a good and noble thing. The latter type is significantly more dangerous, IMHO. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2015, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-a-woman-has-a-past-relationship-with-a-black-man-shes-tainted-forever-why/662743/319 "2015-03-23T13:57:45Z")
> [@Umbridge](#): > > Eh? Eleanor Roosevelt gave Franklin Delano Roosevelt polio, and she contracted polio from a man who happened to be black. Franklin Roosevelt nevertheless married her. All’s well that ends well. Do you have a cite for this? Sounds like a nutty conspiracy theory. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2015, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-a-woman-has-a-past-relationship-with-a-black-man-shes-tainted-forever-why/662743/320 "2015-03-23T14:30:15Z")
> [@drifter777](#): > > Innocent of what? Everything. Not that it matters, since they haven’t been accused of anything. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-a-woman-has-a-past-relationship-with-a-black-man-shes-tainted-forever-why/662743.md?page=15) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-a-woman-has-a-past-relationship-with-a-black-man-shes-tainted-forever-why/662743.md?page=17)