# If after 50 f'n pages, you are still trying to engage SA; YOU ARE DUMB!! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 1, 2012, 9:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-after-50-fn-pages-you-are-still-trying-to-engage-sa-you-are-dumb/611405 "2012-02-01T09:11:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2012, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-after-50-fn-pages-you-are-still-trying-to-engage-sa-you-are-dumb/611405/101 "2012-02-02T04:27:37Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > You wouldn’t be one of those people who thinks of this place as a hive mind, would you? Damnit! The first rule of the SDMB collective is that you _don’t talk about the SDMB collective_! ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2012, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-after-50-fn-pages-you-are-still-trying-to-engage-sa-you-are-dumb/611405/102 "2012-02-02T04:27:50Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > Some people are getting agitated, some people are having fun. Some people, depending on what extraordinary thing **SA** has said most recently, may be doing both, depending on when you catch them. > > You wouldn’t be one of those people who thinks of this place as a hive mind, would you? I’m not a very partisan guy, but I would judge by his username that he is and that he probably suspects “hive mind” of everyone who isn’t a whacky iconoclast, such as himself. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2012, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-after-50-fn-pages-you-are-still-trying-to-engage-sa-you-are-dumb/611405/103 "2012-02-02T04:58:05Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > I’m not a very partisan guy, but I would judge by his username that he is and that he probably suspects “hive mind” of everyone who isn’t a whacky iconoclast, such as himself. Wait a minute. You mean he might actually be. . .a black conservative? OMG!!! [Cousin Vinny] You were serious about dat? [/Cousin Vinny] ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2012, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-after-50-fn-pages-you-are-still-trying-to-engage-sa-you-are-dumb/611405/104 "2012-02-02T05:06:30Z")
Shoulda said “Cousin Vinny to Omg”, if that wasn’t clear. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2012, 8:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-after-50-fn-pages-you-are-still-trying-to-engage-sa-you-are-dumb/611405/105 "2012-02-02T08:04:37Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > I did just now and can’t help but suspect there were material differences involved. Naturally I chose not to quiz him on the specifics. Well, it didn’t happen in a shower, the guy was merely the wrong side of 50, not 60 (although by the look of Sandusky, in a _lot_ worse physical shape), and he was probably 3" shorter than Sandusky. But then, like I said, I was a very short 8yo. Oh, and I had a knife at my throat, but that doesn’t affect the mechanics at all. But we were both initially standing (until _my_ legs gave out from the weight and the pain when he was done with the sodomy - the irrumatio was another story) and I did have my hands braced on something. So, the basic details serve to verify that your physics-based objection is bullshit. ---
**Author:** ![Huerta88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/82dd89/32.png) [@Huerta88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Huerta88)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2012, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-after-50-fn-pages-you-are-still-trying-to-engage-sa-you-are-dumb/611405/106 "2012-02-02T14:15:47Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > Well, it didn’t happen in a shower, the guy was merely the wrong side of 50, not 60 (although by the look of Sandusky, in a _lot_ worse physical shape), and he was probably 3" shorter than Sandusky. But then, like I said, I was a very short 8yo. Oh, and I had a knife at my throat, but that doesn’t affect the mechanics at all. > > But we were both initially standing (until _my_ legs gave out from the weight and the pain when he was done with the sodomy - the irrumatio was another story) and I did have my hands braced on something. > > So, the basic details serve to verify that your physics-based objection is bullshit. Mods need to close the thread. And (with horror and apologies and all that) – thanks for your testimony. Seals it, quells the troll, all that. ---
**Author:** ![Huerta88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/82dd89/32.png) [@Huerta88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Huerta88)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2012, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-after-50-fn-pages-you-are-still-trying-to-engage-sa-you-are-dumb/611405/107 "2012-02-02T15:06:30Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > And (reassuringly) it seems to have inspired a similar response. Yeah, even among the presumptive PSU faithful, where he apparently felt more comfortable voicing his more extreme (and stupid) views. Mind you this makes me re-visit my theory that he only arrived at his physics-based theory about “three foot tall boys” after he bombed on the “no old person ever heard of or could imagine rape” thing. No, he’s been nursing his loving descriptions of how to rape a “three foot tall boy” for months. We also learn the genesis of his “McQueary was really unsure of what he saw when he reported to Paterno” (about events that were taking place six feet in front of him). It’s not, after all, based on some faux semantic distinction between “fondling” and the very different (no it isn’t) “sexual contact.” It’s based on his mental pretense that McQueary was actively lying. He couldn’t quite bring himself to say that here, knowing it was no rah rah PSU forum, but he’s been internally thinking/pretending it all along. Explains a lot (while raising a lot of other questions about his sanity and mendacity). I note that he’s not responded to most of the posts here, including mine calling him out on his lie about how nobody had responded to his request for cites on why it might be illegal for a man to shower next to a boy he was touching from behind (hint: indecent exposure statute, at minimum, cited by me almost a month ago). Little pansy seems to have decided to fight it out in the ATMB forum? No worries, I’m sure he’ll be back, and will deny being that PennLive troll as well. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2012, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-after-50-fn-pages-you-are-still-trying-to-engage-sa-you-are-dumb/611405/108 "2012-02-02T15:28:55Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Mocking him is fun. Mocking YOU is also fun. Just don’t make a mockery of mocking him. That would be overly meta. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Duality](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.duality/32/4098_2.png) [@Mr.Duality](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Duality)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2012, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-after-50-fn-pages-you-are-still-trying-to-engage-sa-you-are-dumb/611405/109 "2012-02-02T15:32:41Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > by the fact that that child was not raped People who use the word “that” twice in a row are misbegotten brazen-faced mammets. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2012, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-after-50-fn-pages-you-are-still-trying-to-engage-sa-you-are-dumb/611405/110 "2012-02-02T17:00:14Z")
> [@Mr.Duality](#): > > People who use the word “that” twice in a row are misbegotten brazen-faced mammets. Oh shit, I do that that sometimes. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2012, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-after-50-fn-pages-you-are-still-trying-to-engage-sa-you-are-dumb/611405/111 "2012-02-02T18:05:02Z")
Better writers than anyone here have done it. And no, **Huerta88** , I’m hardly quelled, nor has my mind been changed. As I said, I suspect there were material differences. Sorry, but buck up! Think of all the new opportunities you’ll have for lying, speciousness and hystrionics. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2012, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-after-50-fn-pages-you-are-still-trying-to-engage-sa-you-are-dumb/611405/112 "2012-02-02T18:34:14Z")
So, it wasn’t rape, but child abuse lite? ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2012, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-after-50-fn-pages-you-are-still-trying-to-engage-sa-you-are-dumb/611405/113 "2012-02-02T18:39:40Z")
I agree with what everyone else is saying about the fiction of an SDMB hive mind. ---
**Author:** ![Huerta88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/82dd89/32.png) [@Huerta88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Huerta88)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2012, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-after-50-fn-pages-you-are-still-trying-to-engage-sa-you-are-dumb/611405/114 "2012-02-02T18:56:30Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Better writers than anyone here have done it. > > And no, **Huerta88** , I’m hardly quelled, nor has my mind been changed. As I said, I suspect there were material differences. Sorry, but buck up! Think of all the new opportunities you’ll have for lying, speciousness and hystrionics. So – you concede you lied about no one having provided a cite for why man-on-boy nude showering was illegal or improper? Given that I did so, a month ago? “I suspect there were material differences.” After a victim of from-behind boy-ass-rape testified that it’s quite possible. How probative your suspicions and materialities are! What a sack of shit. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2012, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-after-50-fn-pages-you-are-still-trying-to-engage-sa-you-are-dumb/611405/115 "2012-02-02T19:05:59Z")
> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#): > > I agree with what everyone else is saying about the fiction of an SDMB hive mind. Good thing, else we’d have to shun you. Not of the body, and all that. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2012, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-after-50-fn-pages-you-are-still-trying-to-engage-sa-you-are-dumb/611405/116 "2012-02-02T19:12:23Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > Oh shit, I do that that sometimes. That “that that” that that earlier poster mentioned is indeed annoying. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2012, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-after-50-fn-pages-you-are-still-trying-to-engage-sa-you-are-dumb/611405/117 "2012-02-02T19:16:21Z")
And that’s that! ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2012, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-after-50-fn-pages-you-are-still-trying-to-engage-sa-you-are-dumb/611405/118 "2012-02-02T19:27:08Z")
> [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > That “that that” that that earlier poster mentioned is indeed annoying. This. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2012, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-after-50-fn-pages-you-are-still-trying-to-engage-sa-you-are-dumb/611405/119 "2012-02-02T19:41:35Z")
> [@Huerta88](#): > > So – you concede you lied about no one having provided a cite for why man-on-boy nude showering was illegal or improper? Given that I did so, a month ago? > > “I suspect there were material differences.” After a victim of from-behind boy-ass-rape testified that it’s quite possible. How probative your suspicions and materialities are! > > What a sack of shit. After having to read your quote of this, I am now thinking of installing one of those “ignore with extreme prejudice” add-ons that sometimes gets talked about. At this point, I hope he’s a troll. Because words simply don’t suffice otherwise. ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2012, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-after-50-fn-pages-you-are-still-trying-to-engage-sa-you-are-dumb/611405/120 "2012-02-02T20:00:32Z")
> [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](#): > > (And, no, he doesn’t bother me any and, no, it’s not because he’s a conservative/conservative leaning poster.) I’m betting it’s because you’re getting as hot and bothered over the idea of child rape as **SA** is. I don’t say that because you’re conservative posters, but because you’re both insipid assholes. 😃 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-after-50-fn-pages-you-are-still-trying-to-engage-sa-you-are-dumb/611405.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-after-50-fn-pages-you-are-still-trying-to-engage-sa-you-are-dumb/611405.md?page=7)