# "If anyone can go and harass it would be appreciated."

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-anyone-can-go-and-harass-it-would-be-appreciated/264086>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 11, 2004, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-anyone-can-go-and-harass-it-would-be-appreciated/264086 "2004-09-11T23:46:28Z")\
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**Author:** ![stpauler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@stpauler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stpauler)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2004, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-anyone-can-go-and-harass-it-would-be-appreciated/264086/21 "2004-09-12T02:56:22Z")

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> [@Equipoise](#):
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> …an event in Rochester on Friday featuring singer Carole King

Hopefully Carole King will dedicate “It’s too Late” to the Republican Party:

> [@](#):
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> There’s something wrong here  
> There can be no denying  
> One of us is changing  
> Or maybe we’ve just stopped trying  
> And it’s too late, baby  
> Now it’s too late  
> Though we really did try to make it  
> Something inside has died  
> And I can’t hide and I just can’t fake it

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**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2004, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-anyone-can-go-and-harass-it-would-be-appreciated/264086/22 "2004-09-12T03:13:15Z")

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> [@gobear](#):
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> **Otto** , have you lost your goddamned mind?

No.

> [@gobear](#):
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> **Astroboy** made no accusation–he said that he didn’t know if the activists were acting on their own or on orders.

Sure he made an accusation, he just lacked the stones to make it manifest. And then when called on it he ducked behind the same mealy-mouthed “I don’t know if it is but I don’t know if it ain’t” bullshit that Hastert tried to pull last week when he accused George Soros of being a drug kingpin.

You’re not usually this thick. Are you having a bad night?

> [@gobear](#):
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> For you to respond with your hysterical hyperbole, _especially_ that child molestation shit, is despicable.

Piss off, wanker.

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**Author:** ![Mockingbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c68b51/32.png) [@Mockingbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mockingbird)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2004, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-anyone-can-go-and-harass-it-would-be-appreciated/264086/23 "2004-09-12T03:20:02Z")

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> [@Evil Captor](#):
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> I thought Otto made his point very nicely.

goboy thinks he’s the voice of reason and the arbiter of values amongst the gay posters. It’s so sad when one’s muscles strangle off the blood flow to the brain.

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**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2004, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-anyone-can-go-and-harass-it-would-be-appreciated/264086/24 "2004-09-12T03:24:06Z")

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> [@Mockingbird](#):
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> goboy thinks he’s the voice of reason and the arbiter of values amongst the gay posters. It’s so sad when one’s muscles strangle off the blood flow to the brain.

Thanks, **Hastur** , fuck you, too, ya nutcase.

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**Author:** ![Astroboy14](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/df705f/32.png) [@Astroboy14](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astroboy14)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2004, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-anyone-can-go-and-harass-it-would-be-appreciated/264086/25 "2004-09-12T03:42:06Z")

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🙂🙂

> [@lissener](#):
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> The organization of a group of likeminded individuals is one thing; instructions from an elected official is entirely else.

Quite true. I would like to know if the democratic party is in fact actively organizing protests at republican events. The OP has given us evidence that the republicans are doing it; is there anyone here active in the democratic party who can step up and give us any insight here? I ask not out of partisanship (I am, after all, a rather unenthusiastic republican at the moment), but simply out of curiosity: if democrats are not organizing protests and disruptions of republican events, I want to know _WHY NOT_?

> [@Otto](#):
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> So then you’re a child molester.
> 
> I mean, I have no evidence saying that you are, but I have no evidence saying that you aren’t either. _shrug_

I see your point, **Otto**. Rather over the top, in my opinion, but I do see your point.

> [@Otto](#):
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> Perhaps you should refrain from making accusations with no information to back them up?

Perhaps I should. When I made my original post here I didn’t consider it to be so much an accusation as an observation… but I can see how it would look otherwise. (see how easy this all is if people would just quit foaming at the mouth and try to see each other’s viewpoints?)

> [@Otto](#):
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> Sure he made an accusation, he just lacked the stones to make it manifest. And then when called on it he ducked behind the same mealy-mouthed “I don’t know if it is but I don’t know if it ain’t” bullshit that Hastert tried to pull last week when he accused George Soros of being a drug kingpin.

So… what would you have me do, **Otto**? When I post something, and somone comes by and makes a post such as friend **lissner** ’s gracefully calling my attention to the fact that I may have knee-jerked, what would you have me do?

I see three options:

1. Ignore that post.
2. Dig in my heels and argue vehemently for my original position (admittedly, I see people do this all the time in these fora, but I see no use in it).
3. Be a reasonable, open-minded person, and acknowledge the other poster’s point (this is what I attempted to do).

You choose. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Astroboy14](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/df705f/32.png) [@Astroboy14](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astroboy14)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2004, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-anyone-can-go-and-harass-it-would-be-appreciated/264086/26 "2004-09-12T03:43:54Z")

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Just an aside: the 2 smilies at the top of that post were NOT supposed to be there! I screwed up when in the preview pane, and trying to insert the last smilie at the end… :smack:

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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2004, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-anyone-can-go-and-harass-it-would-be-appreciated/264086/27 "2004-09-12T03:45:30Z")

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FWIW **Astroboy14** , I completely took your post as an acknowledgement of **lissner’s** point.

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**Author:** ![Mockingbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c68b51/32.png) [@Mockingbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mockingbird)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2004, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-anyone-can-go-and-harass-it-would-be-appreciated/264086/28 "2004-09-12T03:55:16Z")

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> [@gobear](#):
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> Thanks, **Hastur** , fuck you, too, ya nutcase.

You are _so_ predictable, you passive aggressive, mercurially moody little bitch.

goboy fit you SO much better, oh petulant one.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2004, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-anyone-can-go-and-harass-it-would-be-appreciated/264086/29 "2004-09-12T04:10:16Z")

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Jesus…we gay Dopers wonder why we don’t have full rights yet. I’ve seen better-organized Erisian rituals…

Can we stop sniping at fellow family members and try to keep our focus on what’s important: getting Bush out of office on November 2? Please?

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**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2004, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-anyone-can-go-and-harass-it-would-be-appreciated/264086/30 "2004-09-12T04:20:23Z")

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> [@Mockingbird](#):
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> You are _so_ predictable, you passive aggressive, mercurially moody little bitch.
> 
> goboy fit you SO much better, oh petulant one.

If you’re going to insult me, at least try to make sense.  
Passive aggressive? Bitch, there’s nothing passive here.  
Predictable? Eh,maybe.  
Moody? There you have me. I can be moody.  
In any event, you’re still a raving loon.

**Jayjay** , quite right, we do need to vote out Bush and his criminal regime. But the fact that **Hastur** and I both are gay is no reason for us to like each other.

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**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2004, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-anyone-can-go-and-harass-it-would-be-appreciated/264086/31 "2004-09-12T04:29:54Z")

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All right, you two, if you don’t stop fighting back there, I’ll turn this thread around and…

Uh…

Well, I’ll go get **His4Ever** and bring her back, that’s what I’ll do!!

😛

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2004, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-anyone-can-go-and-harass-it-would-be-appreciated/264086/32 "2004-09-12T04:31:08Z")

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> [@Polycarp](#):
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> All right, you two, if you don’t stop fighting back there, I’ll turn this thread around and…
> 
> Uh…
> 
> Well, I’ll go get **His4Ever** and bring her back, that’s what I’ll do!!
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> 😛

:eek:

They’ve brought men up before war crimes tribunals for less than that!

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2004, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-anyone-can-go-and-harass-it-would-be-appreciated/264086/33 "2004-09-12T04:34:15Z")

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Not only am I straight but I also don’t have an old username to have thrown in my face! I’ll never fit in here. ☹

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2004, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-anyone-can-go-and-harass-it-would-be-appreciated/264086/34 "2004-09-12T04:36:26Z")

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> [@Polycarp](#):
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> All right, you two, if you don’t stop fighting back there, I’ll turn this thread around and…
> 
> Uh…
> 
> Well, I’ll go get **His4Ever** and bring her back, that’s what I’ll do!!
> 
> 😛

GAAAAH…NO!!!  
:eek:

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**Author:** ![chique](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@chique](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chique)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2004, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-anyone-can-go-and-harass-it-would-be-appreciated/264086/35 "2004-09-12T05:22:29Z")

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> [@Mockingbird](#):
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> You are _so_ predictable, you passive aggressive, mercurially moody little bitch.

:rolleyes:

Pot, kettle, black.

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**Author:** ![Astroboy14](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/df705f/32.png) [@Astroboy14](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astroboy14)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2004, 6:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-anyone-can-go-and-harass-it-would-be-appreciated/264086/36 "2004-09-12T06:37:22Z")

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> [@Revtim](#):
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> FWIW **Astroboy14** , I completely took your post as an acknowledgement of **lissner’s** point.

Thanks, **Rev**! 🙂

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**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2004, 7:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-anyone-can-go-and-harass-it-would-be-appreciated/264086/37 "2004-09-12T07:21:21Z")

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> [@Polycarp](#):
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> All right, you two, if you don’t stop fighting back there, I’ll turn this thread around and…
> 
> Uh…
> 
> Well, I’ll go get **His4Ever** and bring her back, that’s what I’ll do!!
> 
> 😛

You **wouldn’t**. Do that and I’ll start a GD thread on the differences in beliefs on baptisms within Christian denoms (I originally typed demons there … someone else can have a try at explaining that one), which one makes the most sense and why others have gravitated away from it. Expect infant baptism to get some heated debate going on it. That, or I’ll … I’ll … I’ll start an “Ask Polycarp” thread and you’ll never see your free time again!

[sub]I have no intention of starting either thread: they’d be interesting, but so help me Og I don’t have the time or the patience to sift through the inevitable bevy of cites and histories of arguments and practices.[/sub]

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2004, 7:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-anyone-can-go-and-harass-it-would-be-appreciated/264086/38 "2004-09-12T07:54:15Z")

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> [@Equipoise](#):
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> Because Republicans have let their party be taken over by right-wing “Win at any cost, Lie-Lie-Lie, then Lie some more, Democracy-be-damned, the Republican Noise Machine will save our ass” types, and it’s on their heads.
> 
> Not all Republicans are like that, and good for them, but they choose to remain in the party. Until they take their party back and throw the right-wingers out on their ass to form their own damned party, good, decent, democracy-loving Republicans are going to be associated with this crap, just as they were when Nixon was President.

So you require not just that they make the attempt, but that they actually succeed before you will grant the ones you deem to be decent the favor of your coveted approval. Meanwhile, your own party is infested with cop-bashing anarchists, vandalizing PETA slackers, feminazi hand-stabbers, and tree-hugging Neanderthals. Well, you know — stones, glass houses, and all that.

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**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2004, 8:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-anyone-can-go-and-harass-it-would-be-appreciated/264086/39 "2004-09-12T08:39:06Z")

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> [@Liberal](#):
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> So you require not just that they make the attempt, but that they actually succeed before you will grant the ones you deem to be decent the favor of your coveted approval.

My approval means dick. Unless they rise up and take their party back, and unless they consign the right-wingers who’ve hijacked their party to the trash-heap of history, History will judge them far more harshly than I could ever dream about.

> [@Liberal](#):
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> Meanwhile, your own party is infested with cop-bashing anarchists, vandalizing PETA slackers, feminazi hand-stabbers, and tree-hugging Neanderthals. Well, you know — stones, glass houses, and all that.

Feminazi hand-stabbers?? Whatever that is, if and when they start taking over the government and media, I’ll be sure to scream about them too.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2004, 9:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-anyone-can-go-and-harass-it-would-be-appreciated/264086/40 "2004-09-12T09:38:22Z")

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I thought those people, if they exist, were the ones who wouldn’t vote Democrat because Democrats and Republicans are the same. I wish it wasn’t so confusing to argue about fictional characters.

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