# "If anyone can go and harass it would be appreciated." **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 11, 2004, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-anyone-can-go-and-harass-it-would-be-appreciated/264086 "2004-09-11T23:46:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2004, 10:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-anyone-can-go-and-harass-it-would-be-appreciated/264086/41 "2004-09-12T10:07:21Z")
> [@gobear](#): > > But the fact that **Hastur** and I both are gay is no reason for us to like each other. Careful, **gobear** , or a mod will come in here and invoke **lissener** ’s law: _Calling someone by their previous username is a bannable offense_. I just know it’s gonna happen, because I’ve been assured that mods always apply their admonishments fairly and without personal bias or favoritism. Also, because it’s a rule that just makes _so much sense._ ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2004, 10:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-anyone-can-go-and-harass-it-would-be-appreciated/264086/42 "2004-09-12T10:12:26Z")
> [@Liberal](#): > > So you require not just that they make the attempt, but that they actually succeed before you will grant the ones you deem to be decent the favor of your coveted approval. Meanwhile, your own party is infested with cop-bashing anarchists, vandalizing PETA slackers, feminazi hand-stabbers, and tree-hugging Neanderthals. Well, you know — stones, glass houses, and all that. Disingenuous fuck. Who controls the Republican Party? The hard right. Who controls the the Democratic Party? “Moderates,” or Republicans who like rock music. The extremists you list are not an adequate rebuttal of **Equipoise** ’s point. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2004, 10:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-anyone-can-go-and-harass-it-would-be-appreciated/264086/43 "2004-09-12T10:18:00Z")
The asshole who sent the email. Is he an influential member of the republican party? And did he in fact influence other republicans to do as he suggested? OK, that was 2 questions. ---
**Author:** ![Bob\_Scene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19adc/32.png) [@Bob\_Scene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bob_Scene)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2004, 11:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-anyone-can-go-and-harass-it-would-be-appreciated/264086/44 "2004-09-12T11:03:00Z")
Okay, what the hell is a feminazi hand-stabber? I know what a feminazi is, but I did a Google search for **hand-stabber** just now and was not enlightened. ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2004, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-anyone-can-go-and-harass-it-would-be-appreciated/264086/45 "2004-09-12T12:05:22Z")
> [@lissener](#): > > Careful, **gobear** , or a mod will come in here and invoke **lissener** ’s law: _Calling someone by their previous username is a bannable offense_. I just know it’s gonna happen, because I’ve been assured that mods always apply their admonishments fairly and without personal bias or favoritism. Also, because it’s a rule that just makes _so much sense._ To invoke an even more ancient principle, **Hasturbird** started it by using my old screen name. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2004, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-anyone-can-go-and-harass-it-would-be-appreciated/264086/46 "2004-09-12T12:22:35Z")
> [@lissener](#): > > Who controls the Republican Party? Ed Gillespie. ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2004, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-anyone-can-go-and-harass-it-would-be-appreciated/264086/47 "2004-09-12T12:58:11Z")
> [@Bob Scene](#): > > Okay, what the hell is a feminazi hand-stabber? I know what a feminazi is, but I did a Google search for **hand-stabber** just now and was not enlightened. It’s a derogitory term for an athiest. There’s a rumor/legend that the famous athiest Madalyn Murray O’Hair stabbed a person in the hand with pen for saying ‘God Bless You’ to her after she sneezed. ---
**Author:** ![Desmostylus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c57346/32.png) [@Desmostylus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Desmostylus)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2004, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-anyone-can-go-and-harass-it-would-be-appreciated/264086/48 "2004-09-12T13:01:00Z")
> [@Bob Scene](#): > > …I did a Google search for **hand-stabber** just now and was not enlightened. “hand-stabber” is looney speak for “athiest”. Our favorite resident loon, **Liberal** , is making a reference to something that the murdered athiest Madalyn Murray O’Hair supposedly did. ---
**Author:** ![Desmostylus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c57346/32.png) [@Desmostylus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Desmostylus)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2004, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-anyone-can-go-and-harass-it-would-be-appreciated/264086/49 "2004-09-12T13:03:46Z")
Damn you, **Revtim**. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Silentgoldfish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@Silentgoldfish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silentgoldfish)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2004, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-anyone-can-go-and-harass-it-would-be-appreciated/264086/50 "2004-09-12T14:56:03Z")
“Hand-stabber.” Heh. It does seem a very applicable label for some of the more rabid “how dare you say god in my presence” athiests. ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2004, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-anyone-can-go-and-harass-it-would-be-appreciated/264086/51 "2004-09-12T15:07:48Z")
> [@Silentgoldfish](#): > > “Hand-stabber.” Heh. It does seem a very applicable label for some of the more rabid “how dare you say god in my presence” athiests. But \*\*Liberal uses it as a blanket term for all atheists. If you question the existence of God, you’re a “handstabber.” But then **Lib** will want to discuss the ontological ramifications of the use of “hand” and “stabber”–is the hand doing the stabbing or being stabbed? What is a hand–the fingers, the sum or the gestalt acting in concert?, and so on. His nutbar derailments of just about every thread here is one of the reasons I post so rarely these days. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2004, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-anyone-can-go-and-harass-it-would-be-appreciated/264086/52 "2004-09-12T15:22:26Z")
> [@Gobear](#): > > But Liberal uses it as a blanket term for all atheists. That’s a lie, just like when you lied about what I said about the war. I have plenty of posts in which I’ve said that many atheists are closer to God than many Christians. In fact, I’m on record as saying that even God Himself does not divide the world between theists and atheists. > [@](#): > > His nutbar derailments of just about every thread here is one of the reasons I post so rarely these days. I don’t believe that either. You’re not that big of a pussy. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2004, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-anyone-can-go-and-harass-it-would-be-appreciated/264086/53 "2004-09-12T15:24:09Z")
> [@Silentgoldfish](#): > > “Hand-stabber.” Heh. It does seem a very applicable label for some of the more rabid “how dare you say god in my presence” athiests. Yep, that’s the idea. It’s the atheist equivalent of a Bible thumper. ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2004, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-anyone-can-go-and-harass-it-would-be-appreciated/264086/54 "2004-09-12T15:56:09Z")
> [@Liberal](#): > > That’s a lie, just like when you lied about what I said about the war. I have plenty of posts in which I’ve said that many atheists are closer to God than many Christians. Bullshit. I and others have quoted exactly what you wrote on the war, and all the denial in the world can’t mame it read as anything other than it is. Unlike you, I had the courage to admit that I was wrong. > [@](#): > > > [@](#): > > > > I don’t believe that either. You’re not that big of a pussy. More like I’m not that big of a masochist. Life has more attractions than wasting more of it arguing with a mental case. You’re nuts, **Lib** , absolutely batshit crazy. You ruin threads here by derailing interesting discussions with pedantic quibbles and pseudo-intellectual “philosophical” asides. Worst of all, you’re a bore. Get a new act because this one is getting stale. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2004, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-anyone-can-go-and-harass-it-would-be-appreciated/264086/55 "2004-09-12T16:21:29Z")
> [@Gobear](#): > > Bullshit. I and others have quoted exactly what you wrote on the war, and all the denial in the world can’t mame it read as anything other than it is. The last time we covered this, I proved you wrong and you abandoned the thread (and I suppose the boards, though I hadn’t really noticed) without comment. Perhaps this time you will muster the balls to hang around and admit your mistake. In [this post](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=5073740), I reminded you of [this post](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=3154626&postcount=29), dated 19 March, 2003. I wrote: > [@](#): > > My position is that it is always a moral act for private interests to liberate people from tyranny. But a government’s only moral action is protection of those who have consented to be governed. Therefore, I support the liberation of those who wish to be liberated, but not by the U.S. military. That military should be used only to defend and retaliate with respect to specific threats to U.S. citizens. > [@](#): > > Life has more attractions than wasting more of it arguing with a mental case. You’re nuts, Lib, absolutely batshit crazy. And yet, here you are. ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2004, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-anyone-can-go-and-harass-it-would-be-appreciated/264086/56 "2004-09-12T16:42:32Z")
And your posts in this [thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=170855) demonstrate that you are a liar or deluded. ---
**Author:** ![capacitor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e47774/32.png) [@capacitor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/capacitor)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2004, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-anyone-can-go-and-harass-it-would-be-appreciated/264086/57 "2004-09-12T16:58:00Z")
> [@Liberal](#): > > Yep, that’s the idea. It’s the atheist equivalent of a Bible thumper. I thought that it referred to Whoopi Goldberg (as Guinan) stabbing John de Lancie (playing Q, a being with God-like powers) in an episode of _Star TRek: The Next Generation_. ---
**Author:** ![lel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8797f3/32.png) [@lel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lel)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2004, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-anyone-can-go-and-harass-it-would-be-appreciated/264086/58 "2004-09-12T17:16:14Z")
Wow, one Pit thread features gay guys arguing with each other, a major sidetrack featuring **Liberal** , anti- **lynn73** sentiment, and both politics and religion. Talk about a microcosm of the whole Pit in one thread! ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2004, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-anyone-can-go-and-harass-it-would-be-appreciated/264086/59 "2004-09-12T17:34:32Z")
> [@gobear](#): > > And your posts in this [thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=170855) demonstrate that you are a liar or deluded. Which posts? The one in which I [condemned genocide](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=3154197&postcount=7)? Or the one in which I said that [both Bush and Blair are full of shit](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=3154285&postcount=15)? Or when I said that civilian deaths in the war [pale by comparison](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=3154393&postcount=18) in number to Saddam’s murders? Or when I said that it is not our government that should be [doing the liberating](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=3154480&postcount=22)? Or when I corrected the record about the [terms of the 1991 ceasefire]([http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=3154502&postcount=25](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=3154502&postcount=25) [/quote)? Or the one I already quoted you, [condemning the invasion by the US] ([http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=3154626&postcount=29](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=3154626&postcount=29))? And you have the nerve to call me deluded. Here’s a shovel with a longer handle. Keep digging. ---
**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2004, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-anyone-can-go-and-harass-it-would-be-appreciated/264086/60 "2004-09-12T17:35:04Z")
> [@lel](#): > > Wow, one Pit thread features gay guys arguing with each other, a major sidetrack featuring **Liberal** , anti- **lynn73** sentiment, and both politics and religion. > > Talk about a microcosm of the whole Pit in one thread! Consider it a “Readers Digest Condensed Pit” for those whose SDMB time is limited! 😃 P.S. to **Lel** : I’ve had several very pleasant encounters, including two threads where we agreed on the topic, with **Lynn** elsewhere (you know where), but she was the perfect mock-threat for that post, for reasons I think are obvious! 🙂 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-anyone-can-go-and-harass-it-would-be-appreciated/264086.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-anyone-can-go-and-harass-it-would-be-appreciated/264086.md?page=4)