# If Biden picks a female VP over a male, will he lose? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [July 11, 2020, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-biden-picks-a-female-vp-over-a-male-will-he-lose/915058 "2020-07-11T21:43:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Aspidistra](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspidistra/32/3894_2.png) [@Aspidistra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspidistra)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2020, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-biden-picks-a-female-vp-over-a-male-will-he-lose/915058/21 "2020-07-13T02:20:24Z")
So the claim here is that the USA is _that much_ more misogynistic than India, Israel, Pakistan, Nicaragua, Bangladesh, … [all the dozens and dozens of countries on this list of female heads of government](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_elected_and_appointed_female_heads_of_state_and_government) … that the voting public won’t even tolerate a woman vaguely near to the levers of power and not actually the head of government? That’s pretty damn cynical about your society. Wow. Ummm … see you in the twentieth century soon, hope you make it to the twenty-first some day. ---
**Author:** ![Yankees\_1996\_Champs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Yankees\_1996\_Champs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yankees_1996_Champs)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2020, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-biden-picks-a-female-vp-over-a-male-will-he-lose/915058/22 "2020-07-13T03:45:02Z")
> **[Nikki Haley just made herself the GOP front-runner to succeed Trump](https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/12/nikki-haley-just-made-herself-the-gop-front-runner-to-succeed-trump.html)** > > Thanks to a mix of conventional and unconventional moves made possible by the Trump era, Nikki Haley has made herself an early front-runner for the 2024 GOP presidential nomination. > **[Noem says she is not interested in 2024 presidential run | The North State...](https://nsjonline.com/article/2020/07/noem-says-she-is-not-interested-in-2024-presidential-run/)** > > SIOUX FALLS, S.D. — South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem on Wednesday said she is not interested in running for president in 2024 and would rather stay in South Dakota. > > The first-term Republican governor has drawn attention from conservative commentators... ---
**Author:** ![Acerbic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acerbic/32/3695_2.png) [@Acerbic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acerbic)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2020, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-biden-picks-a-female-vp-over-a-male-will-he-lose/915058/23 "2020-07-13T04:24:16Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > But the GOP and Kremlin are gonna do anything and everything to steal the elections; big lies and scurrilous accusations (Larry Correia has posted a faked and edit vid on Facebook to say Joe is a pedo), voter intimidation and suppression, out and out fraud. Wait, Larry Correia the author of cheesy urban fantasy books? ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2020, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-biden-picks-a-female-vp-over-a-male-will-he-lose/915058/24 "2020-07-13T04:34:34Z")
Yep. Himself. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2020, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-biden-picks-a-female-vp-over-a-male-will-he-lose/915058/25 "2020-07-13T04:36:26Z")
“A lot” is a very vague term. But neither will be the Nominee, except maybe as Veep. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2020, 7:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-biden-picks-a-female-vp-over-a-male-will-he-lose/915058/26 "2020-07-13T07:29:15Z")
I’ve never see any evidence that ‘most Americans’ don’t care for Nancy Pelosi. Obviously most Republicans don’t and there’s a tiny left wing fringe that doesn’t seem to like anyone. If Pelosi was considerably younger, she’d be high up on the VP list. I’ve gone back and forth on deciding if announcing a woman VP was a good idea. On one hand, it was a clever way to eliminate Bernie Sanders from contention in a politically astute way. On the other hand, the anti police crap has hurt so many of the top candidates. I’m sure Klobuchar was one of his top choices. But, no, in the end it won’t hurt him. And, perhaps Biden is trying his damndest to help break that glass ceiling. Ferraro was a joke. 1984 was a very different era. Remember the ‘jokes’ Republicans would tell about making Pat Schroeder cry? Mondale was going to lose anyway, maybe he picks up a few states with Gary Hart but it’s still a Reagan landslide. Palin, the less said the better. A ridiculous Hail Mary that puts a permanent black mark on John McCain. Biden is playing this campaign very conservatively so he isn’t going to pick someone from left field. It’s likely Duckworth or Harris. I was furious with Duckworth over her dumb comments about Washington statues but she’s redeemed herself and I think she’s learned her lesson. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2020, 8:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-biden-picks-a-female-vp-over-a-male-will-he-lose/915058/27 "2020-07-13T08:12:23Z")
> [@Yankees\_1996\_Champs](#): > > Obama was right for that time. > > He did not have any baggage. Of course Obama had baggage: his skin color. He won anyway > [@Yankees\_1996\_Champs](#): > > Hillary Clinton spoiled it for women, just like how Donald Trump and George W. Bush will spoil it for white male businessmen, hence Bloomberg. And there’s another statement showing bias: what Hillary does affects the view of ALL women, every single one, but what Bush and Trump have done only affect a subset of men. That’s male privilege right there - a man’s sins largely reflect only on him as an individual, a woman’s errors are used against every single other woman. > [@Yankees\_1996\_Champs](#): > > Obama didn’t have baggage. > > He was not Sharpton, Jackson or Alan Keyes. He is black - that’s baggage. If you don’t see that you’re not paying attention. > [@Yankees\_1996\_Champs](#): > > No, a lot of GOP voters want Nikki Haley or Kristi Noem in 2024. But meanwhile they want Trump again in 2020? That’s just kicking the can down the road again. The people refusing to consider a woman in 2016 and 2020 are not going to vote for a woman in 2024, either. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2020, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-biden-picks-a-female-vp-over-a-male-will-he-lose/915058/28 "2020-07-13T13:34:22Z")
I’m glad to see you posted an article to bolster your opinion, but did you read it? A North Dakota newspaper saying their governor doesn’t want to run doesn’t show broad support. In fact, “commentators” could be as few as two. > “The first-term Republican governor has drawn attention from conservative commentators for avoiding lockdown orders.” Not quite your claim of “a lot of GOP voters”. But you tried to play by the rules, good for you. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2020, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-biden-picks-a-female-vp-over-a-male-will-he-lose/915058/29 "2020-07-13T13:56:50Z")
> [@Yankees\_1996\_Champs](#): > > No, a lot of GOP voters want Nikki Haley or Kristi Noem in 2024. A lot of GOP voters like to talk about nominating a woman in the next election in an attempt to make them look better in the current election. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2020, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-biden-picks-a-female-vp-over-a-male-will-he-lose/915058/30 "2020-07-13T14:03:53Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > > [@Yankees\_1996\_Champs](#): > > > > Obama was right for that time. > > > > > He did not have any baggage. > > Of course Obama had baggage: his skin color. He won anyway I can’t imagine that his middle name helped with his chances of appealing to middle America. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2020, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-biden-picks-a-female-vp-over-a-male-will-he-lose/915058/31 "2020-07-13T20:20:07Z")
Yeah, that, too - his name. Actually, his entire name. Remember when his opponents kept calling him Barrack !HUSAIN! Obama? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-biden-picks-a-female-vp-over-a-male-will-he-lose/915058.md?page=1)