# If Bloomberg gets the nomination, how do you vote?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-bloomberg-gets-the-nomination-how-do-you-vote/848001>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [February 16, 2020, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-bloomberg-gets-the-nomination-how-do-you-vote/848001 "2020-02-16T01:07:48Z")\
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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2020, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-bloomberg-gets-the-nomination-how-do-you-vote/848001/21 "2020-02-16T03:18:27Z")

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True blue no matter who.

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**Author:** ![Fugazi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f08c70/32.png) [@Fugazi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fugazi)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2020, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-bloomberg-gets-the-nomination-how-do-you-vote/848001/22 "2020-02-16T03:37:52Z")

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I’ve really developed a dislike for the entire banana Republican party, so it would probably be “blue no matter who” regardless of who the Republicans were running. But with Trump it really does become a no brainer. I don’t really care for Bloomberg, but he’s still way better than Trump.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2020, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-bloomberg-gets-the-nomination-how-do-you-vote/848001/23 "2020-02-16T03:39:23Z")

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Any action other than voting for the Democratic nominee is morally equivalent to treason.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2020, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-bloomberg-gets-the-nomination-how-do-you-vote/848001/24 "2020-02-16T03:51:26Z")

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Definite “lesser of two evils” situation there. Bloomberg.

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2020, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-bloomberg-gets-the-nomination-how-do-you-vote/848001/25 "2020-02-16T04:49:57Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> I would vote Bloomberg. Shitty as he is, he’s still orders of magnitude less shitty than Trump.

I agree 100%, although the chances that Mikey will get the nod are about 0.00000001%.

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2020, 6:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-bloomberg-gets-the-nomination-how-do-you-vote/848001/26 "2020-02-16T06:41:15Z")

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I’m ultimately a person of negotiable virtue like nearly everybody, so I almost certainly grit my teeth and vote for Bloomberg, in the hope that both parties being taken over by odious authoritarian oligarchs is a temporary glitch in the system and that the short-term political goals will be worth the longer-term risk. But the last time the pro-democracy party acquiesced to a deal with Satan in exchange for some short-term power (1876), it took 90 years to undo the damage.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2020, 11:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-bloomberg-gets-the-nomination-how-do-you-vote/848001/27 "2020-02-16T11:01:16Z")

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> [@Lord\_Feldon](#):
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> I’m ultimately a person of negotiable virtue like nearly everybody, so I almost certainly grit my teeth and vote for Bloomberg, in the hope that both parties being taken over by odious authoritarian oligarchs is a temporary glitch in the system and that the short-term political goals will be worth the longer-term risk. But the last time the pro-democracy party acquiesced to a deal with Satan in exchange for some short-term power (1876), it took 90 years to undo the damage.

And if we don’t address global warming soon, how great will the damage be, and on what scale of time will that damage eventually unwind itself?

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2020, 11:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-bloomberg-gets-the-nomination-how-do-you-vote/848001/28 "2020-02-16T11:06:43Z")

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> [@Grrr](#):
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> I’ll stay home. Bloomberg is just like Trump only more articulate.
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> No thanks.

Wow. I’m sorry for your ignorance.

> [@Grrr](#):
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> Also, he’s only running to save himself billions of dollars.

Cite? (That’s sarcasm; I know you got nuttin’.)

I do NOT consider myself a Bloomberg Brat, but I try to stamp out ignorance wherever it raises its head.

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**Author:** ![Kimble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kimble/32/19185_2.png) [@Kimble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimble)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2020, 11:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-bloomberg-gets-the-nomination-how-do-you-vote/848001/29 "2020-02-16T11:13:24Z")

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Bloomberg is literally my last choice in the Democratic primaries, but I’d vote for him over Trump. I’m not sure I’d vote for him over Bill Weld, but we can cross that bridge when we get to it.

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**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2020, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-bloomberg-gets-the-nomination-how-do-you-vote/848001/30 "2020-02-16T12:05:47Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> Wow. I’m sorry for your ignorance.
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> Cite? (That’s sarcasm; I know you got nuttin’.)
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> I do NOT consider myself a Bloomberg Brat, but I try to stamp out ignorance wherever it raises its head.

Let’s see.

BOTH are racist  
BOTH been sued for sexual harassment  
BOTH hang out with the same circle of friends.

But yeah dude, I’m sure they’re worlds apart.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2020, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-bloomberg-gets-the-nomination-how-do-you-vote/848001/31 "2020-02-16T12:35:49Z")

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> [@Grrr](#):
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> Let’s see.
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> BOTH are racist  
> BOTH been sued for sexual harassment  
> BOTH hang out with the same circle of friends.
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> But yeah dude, I’m sure they’re worlds apart.

Do you suppose Bloomberg would appoint more justices like Brett Kavanaugh?

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2020, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-bloomberg-gets-the-nomination-how-do-you-vote/848001/32 "2020-02-16T12:41:57Z")

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Bloomberg, the difference being that this time around I am thinking of donating money, and ironically you can thank the phone spammers for this. They’ve pushed me over the edge of despair at ever being able to be left alone when I want to, so running the annoyance of campaigns hitting me up constantly wouldn’t make things that much _worse_ than constant phone spam.

But I wouldn’t give money to Bloomberg, he has enough as it is.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2020, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-bloomberg-gets-the-nomination-how-do-you-vote/848001/33 "2020-02-16T13:00:47Z")

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I believe that both are only looking out for their own interests, but there’s a subtle but important difference between them. Bloomberg wants things to be as good as possible for himself, regardless of other people. If he believes that he can do something to help _everyone_, himself included, he’ll do it, because it helps himself. Trump, however, wants things to be better for him than for everyone else. If he believes that he can do something to hurt everyone except for himself, he’ll do it, because it makes thing for him more better than for them.

All that said, Bloomberg is my penultimate choice in the Democratic primaries, ahead only of Gabbard.

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2020, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-bloomberg-gets-the-nomination-how-do-you-vote/848001/34 "2020-02-16T13:08:08Z")

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Well said, Chronos. Trump exemplifies that woman who said we need to make sure we’re hurting the right people. I get none of that vibe from Bloomberg, despite all his many faults.

(Yes, I know that stop and frisk hurt certain sorts of people unfairly. Still, Bloomberg didn’t implement or extend that policy FOR THAT REASON).

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2020, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-bloomberg-gets-the-nomination-how-do-you-vote/848001/35 "2020-02-16T13:12:15Z")

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Bloomberg of course.

A real poll would be if in some alternate universe the choice was Donald Trump vs. Donald Trump Jr. That would be a tough one, we could hope Sr. would die in office. On the other hand, Jr. doesn’t hasn’t had as many years polishing his con game. And might actually be stupider. Not sure if that’s good or bad, depends on what you look for in a crook.

I just had a horrifying thought. Can Trump boot Pence and change his running mate?

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2020, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-bloomberg-gets-the-nomination-how-do-you-vote/848001/36 "2020-02-16T13:15:59Z")

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Also there’s the fact that Bloomberg seems to be a neurotypical adult, while Trump shows signs of severe cognitive impairment. That’s a pretty big mark in Bloomberg’s favor.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2020, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-bloomberg-gets-the-nomination-how-do-you-vote/848001/37 "2020-02-16T14:20:53Z")

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> [@Defensive\_Indifference](#):
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> Also there’s the fact that Bloomberg seems to be a neurotypical adult, while Trump shows signs of severe cognitive impairment. That’s a pretty big mark in Bloomberg’s favor.

Bloomberg - “Where I’m from, we measure height from the neck up”

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**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2020, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-bloomberg-gets-the-nomination-how-do-you-vote/848001/38 "2020-02-16T14:59:09Z")

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> [@JKellyMap](#):
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> Well said, Chronos. Trump exemplifies that woman who said we need to make sure we’re hurting the right people. I get none of that vibe from Bloomberg, despite all his many faults.
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> (Yes, I know that stop and frisk hurt certain sorts of people unfairly. Still, Bloomberg didn’t implement or extend that policy FOR THAT REASON).

How do you know this?

And for the “certain sorts of people” whose lives were ruined over this policy, why do you think they should be comforted by this reasoning?

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**Author:** ![Pantastic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3bc359/32.png) [@Pantastic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pantastic)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2020, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-bloomberg-gets-the-nomination-how-do-you-vote/848001/39 "2020-02-16T15:01:07Z")

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I’m not going to vote for a racist, authoritarian who is blatantly opposed to the rule of law when it applies to him. That describes both Bloomberg and Trump, so there’s no way I’d vote for either of them. If the country has really sunk so low that we end up with both major parties fielding candidates that belong in dystopian fiction, I’m not going to give it my endorsement. The fact that Bloomberg is even being seriously considered by anyone is a sick joke, it’s like the Democrats are thinking that doubling-down on ‘lesser of two evils’ rhetoric instead of nominating an even vaguely decent candidate.

> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> He won’t be quite so fast to imprison immigrant children.

Not sure why you’d believe that he’d hesitate to imprison non-citizens, he was super fast to imprison Americans for the ‘crime’ of high melanin content, then coerce them into taking plea deals to avoid being kept in hellish prisons while a trial dragged on.

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2020, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-bloomberg-gets-the-nomination-how-do-you-vote/848001/40 "2020-02-16T15:01:23Z")

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Bloomberg.

Is this even a serious question? Refusing to vote is simply enabling the person you least agree with.

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