If Europeans had settled in Africa would they have done a better job than current Africans?

They failed to invent writing for centuries, but then they did it, before the Euros came. When Cortez landed both the Aztec and Maya cultures had their systems of pictographic writing. And, I have read, the Mesoamericans were at that time just starting to learn to work copper. Give them another century and they might have been well into their own Bronze Age. The Peruvians started out as hunter-gatherers like everybody else, but they advanced – when Pizarro came they had built up a Neolithic empire with cities, roads, high-intensity agriculture, textiles, the quipu (a system of encoding information in knotted cords – no good for poetry, but good enough for accounting), organized armies, and centralized government over an area larger than Spain.

Yes, but it wasn’t widespread. But sure- maybe.

Almost entirely used for ornaments, oddly.

So, I’ll give you a possible maybe, but it was a fairly stagnant region, technology wise and culture wise.

I don’t think Africans or Americans or Asians needed Europeans to actually build new technologies in their homelands. It would have been enough just to have knowledge that the technology existed. They could have then duplicated European technology without European political control.

For an example, look at Japan. It was never occupied by any European imperial power. But Japan was able to develop itself into a modern technological country.

So, not any large empires (sorry, "largish empires"on the East Coast (You were aware that the Swift Creek culture was not exactly Cahokia, right? I guess not…), then, and mostly developed in the Mississippi Valley, Ohio Valley and Great Lakes region, like I said.

It’s only a debate if you actually bring facts rather than ignorance, like your ignorance of preColumbian cultures and your ignorance of the non-contributions of Boers to the current state of South Africa.

Which is why I had it in quotes not a box. What’s your point? It’s a good sarcastic paraphrase of you saying

Yeah, “Those racist fuckers who oppressed you for years were actually good for your country”, that’s “reasoned discourse”.:rolleyes: What’s next ? “The Klan - good for the South, great for the Negro!”? “Nazis! Just what the Jews needed!” Please, give me more of this “reasoned discourse” you value so much.

But those are Asians - they’re inscrutably clever, don’t you know? At least, that’s what the race realists tell us.

They also tell us that Asians “less fecund” than other races . . . so, why are there so many of them?!

I didn’t say that either.
But perhaps when you quit putting words in other peoples mouths and beating up on make-believe strawmen, we could debate. But I doubt it.

No kidding. I wonder who here is confused as to when I’m quoting you vs when I’m making rhetorical paraphrases that point out the absurdity of your idea of “reasoned discourse”

Because anyone who calls most of an entire continent (and this is a quote)

is going to be soooo capable of “reasoned discourse”. Yeah, that’s the kind of non-toxic well-water you just want to* lap up*!:rolleyes:

Most of the top Nazis are of Jewish bloodline as are of the German race.
There are more Jewish blood people in Germanys history than any other nation in the world, if you know it’s history.

Well the Europeans did settle in Africa and they did do a better job of living standards, that’s just a fact.

The Jews in general do better than all other nations because if you understand the OT you would understand that they are not a people who are just simple minded, without bugger all direction like most others are.
It’s been instilled in them from their family’s line to be as such and too just lay about was totally looked down on.

The fact is if your culture is trash you nation will be trash.
look at all the nations nowadays that are becoming trash, it’s because they are just trash or they are being lead by trash.

As to a better job of it ? what does that truly mean, more advanced or living in better harmony or better standard of living or a better family values and respect for your fellow man.

What was wrong with Japan before it became modern tec .
They were happy and proud people.
No one had the right to interfere with them, or say they were no good etc.

Yes, yes, Dibble. Even when other people are pointing out how bad racism is, you need to jump in and remind everyone that nobody is more opposed to racism than you are.

It’s not a competition, Little. Me pointing out underlying racism doesn’t erase any posts you or others may make.

Since the OP has been banned for trolling, I’m closing this.