# If Firefly were resurrected, which of these scenarios would you prefer? \[question contains spoilers\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 9, 2010, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-firefly-were-resurrected-which-of-these-scenarios-would-you-prefer-question-contains-spoilers/546145 "2010-07-09T20:06:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Electric\_Warrior](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@Electric\_Warrior](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Electric_Warrior)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2010, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-firefly-were-resurrected-which-of-these-scenarios-would-you-prefer-question-contains-spoilers/546145/21 "2010-07-09T23:42:55Z")
> [@Justin\_Credible](#): > > Spoilers for the new comic book one-shot Serenity: Washout - > > On the last page, we do see a pregnant Zoe, and I guess the comics are supposed to be in canon. AHA YES! _fistpump_ I based this speculation on the plot of another film and I think it’s a fitting tribute to Mr. Washburne. > [@BrotherCadfael](#): > > To everyone’s surprise, but most especially his own, River moves in on Jayne with the calm force of a glacier (she can, after all, see his gentle side). The rest of your proposal leaves me cold but I’m glad I’m not the only one who saw this possibility. I think they fit together really well (he’s already obsessed with her even if it’s because he hates her/is terrified of her) - I like how they’re both the ‘unpredictable’ elements on the crew…they’re sort of character foils, and I’d love to see them interact more. Plus it’d be hot. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2010, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-firefly-were-resurrected-which-of-these-scenarios-would-you-prefer-question-contains-spoilers/546145/22 "2010-07-10T00:03:39Z")
I’d prefer that they pretended the movie never happened and went on to do what Joss had been planning to do. If that means following the basic plot of the movie, spread out over many episodes, then I’m fine with that. This is not a vote for keeping anyone alive, just for seeing things unfold at a Firefly pace. ---
**Author:** ![BrotherCadfael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@BrotherCadfael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrotherCadfael)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2010, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-firefly-were-resurrected-which-of-these-scenarios-would-you-prefer-question-contains-spoilers/546145/23 "2010-07-10T00:04:45Z")
> [@Electric\_Warrior](#): > > The rest of your proposal leaves me cold but I’m glad I’m not the only one who saw this possibility. I think they fit together really well (he’s already obsessed with her even if it’s because he hates her/is terrified of her) - I like how they’re both the ‘unpredictable’ elements on the crew…they’re sort of character foils, and I’d love to see them interact more. Plus it’d be hot. 😛 My speculation isn’t a good recipe for continuing the series, but more how I see the characters evolving after the series is over. But, yeah, River moving in on Jayne is my favorite part. Everyone would be bewildered by it, but no one more than him. ---
**Author:** ![Electric\_Warrior](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@Electric\_Warrior](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Electric_Warrior)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2010, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-firefly-were-resurrected-which-of-these-scenarios-would-you-prefer-question-contains-spoilers/546145/24 "2010-07-10T00:07:07Z")
> [@BrotherCadfael](#): > > My speculation isn’t a good recipe for continuing the series, but more how I see the characters evolving after the series is over. > > But, yeah, River moving in on Jayne is my favorite part. Everyone would be bewildered by it, but no one more than him. He’d be totally into it, though, as he is into anything that is female and attracted to him. ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2010, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-firefly-were-resurrected-which-of-these-scenarios-would-you-prefer-question-contains-spoilers/546145/25 "2010-07-10T00:09:27Z")
Definitely option 1. I liked the movie and would have liked to have seen what happened next. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2010, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-firefly-were-resurrected-which-of-these-scenarios-would-you-prefer-question-contains-spoilers/546145/26 "2010-07-10T00:20:50Z")
Option 1. 25 years of DC comics have basically taught me that retcons suck and the damage they do can never be repaired. And the “Wash is about to die” thing would totally be hanging over the crew if they just did the interim. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2010, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-firefly-were-resurrected-which-of-these-scenarios-would-you-prefer-question-contains-spoilers/546145/27 "2010-07-10T00:23:44Z")
Definitely post Serenity with Wash and Book dead(and Mr. Universe!). 🙂 It’s a shame they died, but I would want to see the show deal with that and move on. ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2010, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-firefly-were-resurrected-which-of-these-scenarios-would-you-prefer-question-contains-spoilers/546145/28 "2010-07-10T00:57:10Z")
> [@Arnold\_Winkelried](#): > > Are you sure about that? I will have to watch it again (I believe it’s available as an “instant play” at Netflix), but I distinctly remember she and her brother showing up at the ship, and the people at the ship saying “why would we take this young girl on board, everyone will be looking for her?” It sure seemed like she was someone totally new to them. That happened in the series pilot episode, which is also titled “Serenity.” Maybe you are conflating that with the movie? In any case, the beginning of the movie picks up after the series with Simon and River already part of the “crew” on Serenity and River helping out with their current job/heist. Actually, the _very_ beginning of the movie is the video archive of Simon rescuing River from the Alliance facility, as viewed by The Operative. ---
**Author:** ![BrotherCadfael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@BrotherCadfael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrotherCadfael)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2010, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-firefly-were-resurrected-which-of-these-scenarios-would-you-prefer-question-contains-spoilers/546145/29 "2010-07-10T01:02:23Z")
> [@Electric\_Warrior](#): > > He’d be totally into it, though, as he is into anything that is female and attracted to him. Well, hell, wouldn’t you be? ---
**Author:** ![Electric\_Warrior](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@Electric\_Warrior](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Electric_Warrior)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2010, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-firefly-were-resurrected-which-of-these-scenarios-would-you-prefer-question-contains-spoilers/546145/30 "2010-07-10T01:31:42Z")
> [@BrotherCadfael](#): > > Well, hell, wouldn’t you be? I have standards. However, Summer Glau is definitely up to my standards. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2010, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-firefly-were-resurrected-which-of-these-scenarios-would-you-prefer-question-contains-spoilers/546145/31 "2010-07-10T02:09:05Z")
Pretend the movie never was made. There was a great back story to Shepherd. Wash was cool. I hated the Buffyization of River in the movie. Incredibly stupid her smiting the Reivers like Samson with the jawbone of an ass. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2010, 6:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-firefly-were-resurrected-which-of-these-scenarios-would-you-prefer-question-contains-spoilers/546145/32 "2010-07-10T06:42:06Z")
No matter what happens, I’ll be in my bunk. ---
**Author:** ![Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapioca_Dextrin)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2010, 7:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-firefly-were-resurrected-which-of-these-scenarios-would-you-prefer-question-contains-spoilers/546145/33 "2010-07-10T07:28:21Z")
Option #1. I’d like Jubal Early to return. He’d make a great Shepherd. ---
**Author:** ![outlierrn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/outlierrn/32/3005_2.png) [@outlierrn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/outlierrn)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2010, 7:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-firefly-were-resurrected-which-of-these-scenarios-would-you-prefer-question-contains-spoilers/546145/34 "2010-07-10T07:53:13Z")
> [@Electric\_Warrior](#): > > I have standards. > > However, Summer Glau is definitely up to my standards. I dunno, that’s a lotta crazy to be stickin’ your dick into, I can see how hookin’ up with River could end badly. ‘For them.’ ---
**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2010, 8:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-firefly-were-resurrected-which-of-these-scenarios-would-you-prefer-question-contains-spoilers/546145/35 "2010-07-10T08:20:26Z")
I loved the movie, and I can’t see trying to do an overall series ‘before it.’ The dead remain dead. However, I think it does make sense to have plenty of ‘flashback content’ with Alan Tudyk, and Ron Glass if it makes sense for the storyline. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2010, 9:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-firefly-were-resurrected-which-of-these-scenarios-would-you-prefer-question-contains-spoilers/546145/36 "2010-07-10T09:14:52Z")
I’d cheerfully ignore _Serenity_ because I didn’t really like it. The Reavers didn’t make a whole lot of sense (I admit the origin story is mildly interesting, but how a bunch of berserkers manage to operate spaceships eludes me). I didn’t like how ridiculously over-the-top River was (I seem to recall the series was vague about whether or not she had psychic powers, suggesting she might just be extremely perceptive in her pseudo-autistic fashion - some posters disagreed and cited specific episodes which I’ve not yet reviewed) and seeing Simon bust River out of stir (as opposed to spending his personal fortune to pay others to do so) contradicts his series characterization as a somewhat naive academic. I’m okay with ignoring the movie, with second choice just picking up a few months afterward with Book and Wash dead, and hopefully River’s abilities become less ridiculous as she gets a better grip on her sanity. ---
**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2010, 9:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-firefly-were-resurrected-which-of-these-scenarios-would-you-prefer-question-contains-spoilers/546145/37 "2010-07-10T09:29:45Z")
> [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](#): > > Option #1. > > I’d like Jubal Early to return. He’d make a great Shepherd. Um. Wasn’t he a sociopath who had killed his mother and his dog as a child? ---
**Author:** ![SevenOfTeemingMillions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/76d3ee/32.png) [@SevenOfTeemingMillions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SevenOfTeemingMillions)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2010, 9:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-firefly-were-resurrected-which-of-these-scenarios-would-you-prefer-question-contains-spoilers/546145/38 "2010-07-10T09:41:07Z")
Firefly coming back? That’s Just In-credible!! 😃 Seriously, it would be totally awesome if Firefly came back. I loved Wash and love love LOVE Zoe (awesome personality: bad-ass with heart) and I didn’t want Wash to die because I don’t want Firefly to lose him and I didn’t want Zoe to go through the pain. Zoe deserves happiness. I voted No because I wanted the movie to remain canon. I saw the movie (and I totally loved the movie! 🙂 ) before I saw the TV series and it was the movie that made me buy the DVD of the TV series. Maybe they could bring back Wash without ignoring the movie? Maybe through a wormhole or some top secret experiment or something? It’s sci-fi after all. ---
**Author:** ![Tequila\_Mockingbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/41988e/32.png) [@Tequila\_Mockingbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tequila_Mockingbird)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2010, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-firefly-were-resurrected-which-of-these-scenarios-would-you-prefer-question-contains-spoilers/546145/39 "2010-07-10T20:41:39Z")
I LOVED Wash. But cheating death …even for him, isn’t right. I want to know Book’s backstory, there were a lot of loose ends left for him, too, but bringing him back just feels so wrong. Dead is dead. I am definitely in for some serious flashbacks though. I also would really like seeing Zoe pregnant or even a little Wash, but let the characters have personal tragedy and live through it. Not sure how I’d feel about Jayne and River. That’s an interesting idea that I both hate and am strangely intrigued by. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2010, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-firefly-were-resurrected-which-of-these-scenarios-would-you-prefer-question-contains-spoilers/546145/40 "2010-07-10T20:44:55Z")
> [@Tequila\_Mockingbird](#): > > Not sure how I’d feel about Jayne and River. That’s an interesting idea that I both hate and am strangely intrigued by. You think the Doctor’s going to let him…bonk… his sister? I think Jayne would have a really bad hypodermic accident, like accidentally by mistake inject himself with a quart of morphine. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-firefly-were-resurrected-which-of-these-scenarios-would-you-prefer-question-contains-spoilers/546145.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-firefly-were-resurrected-which-of-these-scenarios-would-you-prefer-question-contains-spoilers/546145.md?page=3)