# If Harris becomes the 2024 Dem nominee, who's her VP? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 10, 2023, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-harris-becomes-the-2024-dem-nominee-whos-her-vp/989896 "2023-09-10T20:21:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2023, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-harris-becomes-the-2024-dem-nominee-whos-her-vp/989896/21 "2023-09-11T02:05:02Z")
> [@flurb](#): > > IThe focus should be on finding a candidate who will bring out their absolute ugliest and turn Americans broadly against overreaching, frothing Republicans like the Clinton impeachment did. I don’t normally agree with this type of plan. However, nominating another woman would do it. And if a moderate woman, it would be perceived as overreaching. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2023, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-harris-becomes-the-2024-dem-nominee-whos-her-vp/989896/22 "2023-09-11T05:52:42Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > Kevin Newsom, the current governor of CA. She knows him well and gets along with him. He’s young, very personable, energetic and politically ambitious. I wish Biden would step aside and let him run, as I think he’d beat Trump in a walk. Gavin. But the polls show him beating Desantis but losing to trump. In fact everyone but Joe loses to trump. Sad isnt it? If trump bites the dust, then its wide open. He _is_ pretty popular, but he is another CA candidate , and doesnt balance the ticket at all. Also, in theory, there are issues with electors. Best bet would be Rust belt. Long shots would be someone for Florida or texas. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2023, 8:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-harris-becomes-the-2024-dem-nominee-whos-her-vp/989896/23 "2023-09-11T08:38:28Z")
If it was a Biden-type, why not outgoing North Carolina governor Roy Cooper? In this scenario though, I’d like to see Whitmer. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2023, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-harris-becomes-the-2024-dem-nominee-whos-her-vp/989896/24 "2023-09-11T14:10:27Z")
Andy Beshear, Kentucky governor. ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2023, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-harris-becomes-the-2024-dem-nominee-whos-her-vp/989896/25 "2023-09-11T15:17:14Z")
Keith Ellison is about the same age, would excite the same enemies, and would be seen as constitutionally acceptable. But he’ll probably be busy occupying another office. My left-field proposal here is Peter Daou. Not that he likes or wants to work with Harris; but he’s a more-than-just-cultural Christian, & he’s pretty progressive. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2023, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-harris-becomes-the-2024-dem-nominee-whos-her-vp/989896/26 "2023-09-11T15:40:04Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > In fact everyone but Joe loses to trump. Sad isnt it? Except for Harris, this can be explained by lack of name recognition. As for Harris, everyone may know who she is, but I’m not convinced people have made up their minds about her as fully as they have already made up their minds about a Biden v. Trump race. ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2023, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-harris-becomes-the-2024-dem-nominee-whos-her-vp/989896/27 "2023-09-11T15:52:31Z")
> [@flurb](#): > > I don’t think VP candidates make much of a difference at all to the success of the ticket. Agreed – but if this circumstance came to pass, it might be the rare occasion that the pick matters. > [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > Governor Gretchen Whitmer? Or do we feel that there _must_ be a male on the ticket? I admire the heck out of her, and frankly might rather see her at the top of the ticket over Harris. But now I’m fighting my own hypothetical! > [@Railer13](#): > > Andy Beshear, Kentucky governor. Interesting! > [@foolsguinea](#): > > Peter Daou Hard pass. Not only is he not a Democrat, but he’s currently helping Cornel West undermine the Democrats’ chances. ---
**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2023, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-harris-becomes-the-2024-dem-nominee-whos-her-vp/989896/28 "2023-09-11T16:00:27Z")
Stacey Abrams? ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2023, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-harris-becomes-the-2024-dem-nominee-whos-her-vp/989896/29 "2023-09-11T17:33:45Z")
So you think a ticket featuring two women of color can win the White House, in the United States, in 2024? Hell, running against Trump, any two random sane people _ought to be able to win_, but in reality I don’t see that as the best chance of winning. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2023, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-harris-becomes-the-2024-dem-nominee-whos-her-vp/989896/30 "2023-09-11T17:39:47Z")
> [@SuntanLotion](#): > > Stacey Abrams? I don’t think she’d want it if it meant abandoning her work in Georgia. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2023, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-harris-becomes-the-2024-dem-nominee-whos-her-vp/989896/31 "2023-09-11T17:41:40Z")
> [@Akaj](#): > > So you think a ticket featuring two women of color can win the White House, in the United States, in 2024? Hell, running against Trump, any two random sane people _ought to be able to win_, but in reality I don’t see that as the best chance of winning. I truly wish we lived in a country where I didn’t have to agree with this…but I agree with this. ---
**Author:** ![Dorjan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dorjan/32/12440_2.png) [@Dorjan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dorjan)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2023, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-harris-becomes-the-2024-dem-nominee-whos-her-vp/989896/32 "2023-09-11T17:49:56Z")
Ironically, I think this country is polarized enough that it just might work. The folks who are going to vote for Trump or whichever GOP candidate manages to wrench the ticket from him are going to do their thing regardless, and Dems who will vote straight ticket because anyone is better than Trump will do their thing. That leaves young politically discouraged progressives who may be motivated to get out and actually vote for a refreshingly different DEM ticket that two Black women would bring. Plus Stacey Abrams is vastly more personable and popular than Harris. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2023, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-harris-becomes-the-2024-dem-nominee-whos-her-vp/989896/33 "2023-09-11T17:53:49Z")
I’d like to see Gina Raimondo at the head of the ticket, but that’s not going to happen in this hypo. She’d be a great running mate for Harris or anyone else. I wouldn’t jump to the conclusion that two women would be at a disadvantage but so many people would think it is that it won’t happen. ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2023, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-harris-becomes-the-2024-dem-nominee-whos-her-vp/989896/34 "2023-09-11T17:58:38Z")
That is…a good argument for Stacey Abrams, actually. Sort of a Theodore Roosevelt to Kamala’s Wm. McKinley. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2023, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-harris-becomes-the-2024-dem-nominee-whos-her-vp/989896/35 "2023-09-11T18:20:48Z")
> [@Dorjan](#): > > Ironically, I think this country is polarized enough that it just might work. The folks who are going to vote for Trump or whichever GOP candidate manages to wrench the ticket from him are going to do their thing regardless, and Dems who will vote straight ticket because anyone is better than Trump will do their thing. That leaves young politically discouraged progressives who may be motivated to get out and actually vote for a refreshingly different DEM ticket that two Black women would bring. Plus Stacey Abrams is vastly more personable and popular than Harris. I think you are overly optimistic. But I do agree that Stacy Abrams is extremely personable and popular, and I’d love to see her as president. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2023, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-harris-becomes-the-2024-dem-nominee-whos-her-vp/989896/36 "2023-09-11T21:49:54Z")
> [@SuntanLotion](#): > > Or find a relatively unknown Democrat named Trump! That’d confuse them. I actually find this terribly amusing. ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2023, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-harris-becomes-the-2024-dem-nominee-whos-her-vp/989896/37 "2023-09-11T21:54:37Z")
There are several scenarios, including this one, that would be fascinating to see play out. Let’s Save Game, try this, and if it doesn’t work out well, go back to the save point and try something else. ---
**Author:** ![Chingon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chingon/32/17645_2.png) [@Chingon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chingon)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2023, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-harris-becomes-the-2024-dem-nominee-whos-her-vp/989896/38 "2023-09-11T21:59:52Z")
I think you’ll see tremendous push back from the Dems who only want to see white men nominated for major political positions (supposedly as to not anger white Republicans). ---
**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2023, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-harris-becomes-the-2024-dem-nominee-whos-her-vp/989896/39 "2023-09-12T00:49:15Z")
> [@SuntanLotion](#): > > Stacey Abrams? She’s already the President of Earth: > **[Stacey Abrams](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Stacey_Abrams)** > > Stacey Abrams (born 9 December 1973; age 49) is an American politician from Georgia who made a guest appearance as the President of United Earth in the Star Trek: Discovery fourth season episode "Coming Home". She was the Democratic Party candidate... ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2023, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-harris-becomes-the-2024-dem-nominee-whos-her-vp/989896/40 "2023-09-12T01:37:11Z")
Care to mention who those white men are and how much influence they have in the Democratic Party? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-harris-becomes-the-2024-dem-nominee-whos-her-vp/989896.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-harris-becomes-the-2024-dem-nominee-whos-her-vp/989896.md?page=3)