# If Hillary ran against Trump again, you'd stay home? Please explain **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [May 31, 2024, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-hillary-ran-against-trump-again-youd-stay-home-please-explain/1002335 "2024-05-31T15:26:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2024, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-hillary-ran-against-trump-again-youd-stay-home-please-explain/1002335/265 "2024-06-05T03:05:49Z")
That’s quite a stretch to make that conclusion. I was certainly not advocating a rule that would apply to any primary. Past or future. I simply said that after what Sanders put her through, I wouldn’t blame her for feeling that way. Not that I supported her actually doing it. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2024, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-hillary-ran-against-trump-again-youd-stay-home-please-explain/1002335/266 "2024-06-05T03:15:32Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > I simply said that after what Sanders put her through, I wouldn’t blame her for feeling that way. Then it would be fair to say Sanders likewise had reason to feel that way (not supporting Clinton) given what her campaign and the democratic party put him through yet you expected him to do what is “good for the party.” TBH, I am not even sure what it was that Sanders “put her through” beyond having the temerity to run against her. Russia was not his doing. Russia exposing the malfeasance of the Clinton campagin and the DNC was not his doing. Email servers were not his doing. James Comey was not his doing. Sanders is not @Mighty_Mouse 's useful idiot. He is Clinton’s useful scapegoat. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2024, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-hillary-ran-against-trump-again-youd-stay-home-please-explain/1002335/267 "2024-06-05T03:25:12Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > Sanders is not @Mighty_Mouse 's useful idiot. He is Clinton’s useful scapegoat. No, you are the useful idiot. You’re being manipulated again, and you have no fucking clue. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2024, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-hillary-ran-against-trump-again-youd-stay-home-please-explain/1002335/268 "2024-06-05T03:27:51Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > Russia exposing the malfeasance of the Clinton campagin and the DNC was not his doing. Oh, is _that_ what they were doing? Thanks for clearing that up, _Tovarich_. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2024, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-hillary-ran-against-trump-again-youd-stay-home-please-explain/1002335/269 "2024-06-05T03:28:17Z")
Says the person who simply repeats “useful idiot” like MAGA do with their talking points. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2024, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-hillary-ran-against-trump-again-youd-stay-home-please-explain/1002335/270 "2024-06-05T03:28:51Z")
In his defense, I’ll bet he does. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2024, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-hillary-ran-against-trump-again-youd-stay-home-please-explain/1002335/271 "2024-06-05T03:29:29Z")
You’re literally the one making the Russian Intelligence interference in a US election a heroic exercise. You’re the poster child for useful idiocy. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2024, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-hillary-ran-against-trump-again-youd-stay-home-please-explain/1002335/272 "2024-06-05T03:30:03Z")
I did no such thing. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2024, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-hillary-ran-against-trump-again-youd-stay-home-please-explain/1002335/273 "2024-06-05T03:31:21Z")
I just quoted you doing that. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2024, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-hillary-ran-against-trump-again-youd-stay-home-please-explain/1002335/274 "2024-06-05T03:31:28Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > Russia exposing the malfeasance of the Clinton campagin and the DNC was not his doing. This you? ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2024, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-hillary-ran-against-trump-again-youd-stay-home-please-explain/1002335/275 "2024-06-05T03:36:14Z")
Yeah. Where is the part where I made it “heroic?” It is saying what happened. And it did. It’s like saying, “Linda Tripp revealed that Bill Clinton got a blowjob from Monica Lewinsky.” Am I making Tripp heroic? It happened. I said it happened. Simple as that. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2024, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-hillary-ran-against-trump-again-youd-stay-home-please-explain/1002335/276 "2024-06-05T03:38:17Z")
Small problem. That’s not really what happened. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2024, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-hillary-ran-against-trump-again-youd-stay-home-please-explain/1002335/277 "2024-06-05T03:49:50Z")
Did you understand what was meant? I’d bet you did. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2024, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-hillary-ran-against-trump-again-youd-stay-home-please-explain/1002335/278 "2024-06-05T14:51:23Z")
A less stupid person might say “Russian intelligence sabotaged the Democratic Party candidate in order to put their agent into the presidency” But you’re too childish to understand what’s going on, so they are your heroes. They blew up the corporatist democratic plot to actually win elections, instead of becoming a wing of the Green-Rainbow Party. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2024, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-hillary-ran-against-trump-again-youd-stay-home-please-explain/1002335/279 "2024-06-05T14:55:51Z")
A less stupid person would understand it doesn’t matter. If someone tells you that your spouse/SO is cheating on you does it matter to you if the person who told you had an ulterior motive? The reality is the same either way and the person who told you is not your hero. What I find most interesting is your need to pounce and demean from the get-go. There was no build-up or back-and-forth where emotions flared and tempers got poked. You just went there. It says a lot about you. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2024, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-hillary-ran-against-trump-again-youd-stay-home-please-explain/1002335/280 "2024-06-05T16:35:59Z")
Obvious pawn is obvious- not that big a leap to make. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2024, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-hillary-ran-against-trump-again-youd-stay-home-please-explain/1002335/281 "2024-06-05T16:47:31Z")
I was going to make a parody post showing what a typical Russian dupe would look like, but it looks like you totally ninja’d me. Good job. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2024, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-hillary-ran-against-trump-again-youd-stay-home-please-explain/1002335/282 "2024-06-05T16:51:34Z")
Did the Clinton campaign/DNC actually do what was alleged? (Hint: Yes, without doubt) ISTM you are the one being duped. You sound exactly like a MAGAt defending Trump. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2024, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-hillary-ran-against-trump-again-youd-stay-home-please-explain/1002335/283 "2024-06-05T16:54:11Z")
That one should go in the "No, _you!"_ Hall Of Fame. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2024, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-hillary-ran-against-trump-again-youd-stay-home-please-explain/1002335/284 "2024-06-05T16:54:55Z")
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