# If I had super strength, could I squeeze coal into diamonds?

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**Category:** Cecil's Columns/Staff Reports
**Created:** [July 24, 2009, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-had-super-strength-could-i-squeeze-coal-into-diamonds/504121 "2009-07-24T14:11:43Z")
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### Author: ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)
#### Post date: [July 25, 2009, 9:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-had-super-strength-could-i-squeeze-coal-into-diamonds/504121/21 "2009-07-25T09:45:13Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> By apes, certainly, but not all apes are gorillas.

Agreed. Now if he’d said chimps…

- NAITA (Pan Narrans)

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### Author: ![Master\_Cylinder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b782af/32.png) [@Master\_Cylinder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Master_Cylinder)
#### Post date: [July 25, 2009, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-had-super-strength-could-i-squeeze-coal-into-diamonds/504121/22 "2009-07-25T12:11:39Z")

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Temperature is easy enough, there’s a dependable source of heat 93 million miles away which would do nicely. Applying steady, even pressure to the coal/graphite is a little trickier, but I don’t see that being beyond Supes abilities. The problem, of course, is that this ruins the whole scenario where Superman picks up a lump of coal and squeezes it into a diamond while Lois is watching. Therefore, I envision something like this happens instead.

SUPERMAN picks up a lump of coal while Lois watches in dewy-eyed admiration.

SUPERMAN: (surprised, looking over Lois’ shoulder) Lex Luthor!

LOIS LANE: (alarmed, turning quickly) Luthor? Where!?

(SUPERMAN takes advantage of the misdirection to quickly swap out the lump of coal for a diamond he had previously hidden in his tights) Nevermind, it’s just a bald guy. Here, this diamond is for you!

Penn and Teller could do this easily. I don’t see why Superman can’t as well.

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### Author: ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)
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FTR, in the process of helping Cecil with this column, I found the following instances where Superman or someone closely related to him did squeeze coal into diamond. It’s not a comprehensive list, of course.

_Comics:_  
Action Comics #138, November, 1949

Superboy #65, May/June 1958

Superman #127, February, 1959

Superman #196, May, 1967

Note that in Superman 218 (July, 1969) a super child named Carl squeezes coal into diamonds.

Action Comics, #491, January, 1979

Superman – Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow?, 1986

Superman – True Brit, December, 2004 (note he crashes the economy by turning coal into diamonds).

JLA: The Secret Society of Super-Heroes (Book 1), November, 2006  
_Films:_  
Superman III

_Television:_  
1953: The Jungle Devil

Smallville – Season 5, Episode 12 (2005-2006)

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### Author: ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)
#### Post date: [July 25, 2009, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-had-super-strength-could-i-squeeze-coal-into-diamonds/504121/24 "2009-07-25T18:20:30Z")

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> [@Una\_Persson](#):
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> FTR, in the process of helping Cecil with this column, I found the following instances where Superman or someone closely related to him did squeeze coal into diamond. It’s not a comprehensive list, of course. \<snip\>Note that in Superman 218 (July, 1969) a super child named Carl squeezes coal into diamonds.

Was that the one where Superman figured out that it was all a trick staged by Mister Mxyzptlk when Superman’s “son” squeezes coal into _faceted cut-gem_ diamonds?

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### Author: ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)
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> [@Lumpy](#):
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> Was that the one where Superman figured out that it was all a trick staged by Mister Mxyzptlk when Superman’s “son” squeezes coal into _faceted cut-gem_ diamonds?

I honestly do not recall, and I no longer have the comic in front of me. That doesn’t sound familiar, however - it could be another instance.

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### Author: ![spywholoved](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spywholoved/32/10368_2.png) [@spywholoved](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spywholoved)
#### Post date: [July 26, 2009, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-had-super-strength-could-i-squeeze-coal-into-diamonds/504121/26 "2009-07-26T04:50:37Z")

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Seems like Cecil let Una get him distracted! The answer to the original question is “no” twice over, and Cecil and Una agreed on it…“someone [who] had unlimited strength” can’t squeeze a lump of coal into a diamond because coal can’t be squeezed into diamonds, period, and pressure alone isn’t enough.

now if a person with unlimited strength had graphite and the ability to withstand the high enough temperatures… I gotta think they should be able to get a least a teeny diamond somewhere within the remains of a hand-sized chunk of graphite.

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### Author: ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)
#### Post date: [July 26, 2009, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-had-super-strength-could-i-squeeze-coal-into-diamonds/504121/27 "2009-07-26T23:43:09Z")

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Yeah, but a handful of teeny industrial diamonds ain’t gonna pay the bills, or impress the ladies. You need to be able to create gem quality diamonds or nobody cares.

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### Author: ![ftg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ftg/32/2801_2.png) [@ftg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ftg)
#### Post date: [July 27, 2009, 12:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-had-super-strength-could-i-squeeze-coal-into-diamonds/504121/28 "2009-07-27T12:02:59Z")

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Why stop at diamonds? Just keep squeezing and make a mini-black hole. Guaranteed to break the ice at parties.

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### Author: ![palindromemordnilap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/db5fbb/32.png) [@palindromemordnilap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/palindromemordnilap)
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> [@spywholoved](#):
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> Seems like Cecil let Una get him distracted! The answer to the original question is “no” twice over, and Cecil and Una agreed on it…“someone [who] had unlimited strength” can’t squeeze a lump of coal into a diamond because coal can’t be squeezed into diamonds, period, and pressure alone isn’t enough.
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> now if a person with unlimited strength had graphite and the ability to withstand the high enough temperatures… I gotta think they should be able to get a least a teeny diamond somewhere within the remains of a hand-sized chunk of graphite.

At a minimum, you would also need some way to protect your hands. Superman uses his power of invulnerability as well as strength.

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### Author: ![qazwart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/5fc32e/32.png) [@qazwart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/qazwart)
#### Post date: [July 28, 2009, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-had-super-strength-could-i-squeeze-coal-into-diamonds/504121/30 "2009-07-28T19:44:41Z")

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Couldn’t Superman simply take that piece of coal, fly around the sun in a counter clockwise motion until he goes back in time when the Earth was being created, bury that lump of coal near a volcanic tube, fly back around the sun in a clockwise direction, unbury the lump of coal, and have a diamond?

That’s a lot simpler than trying to squeeze the lump of coal into a diamond.

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### Author: ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)
#### Post date: [July 29, 2009, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-had-super-strength-could-i-squeeze-coal-into-diamonds/504121/31 "2009-07-29T16:21:19Z")

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According to the Superman movie (the first one), he goes back in time by _spinning the Earth in reverse_. :dubious::rolleyes:😕

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### Author: ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)
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I always figured that was just the graphical representation of Superman going back in time by moving faster than light. I mean, if he reversed the spin of the Earth, it would cause lots of destruction, as things moving up to 1000mpg (at the equator) came to a screeching halt. Plus, what is the mechanism for his flying to slow the Earth – the interaction between his body and the upper atmosphere? That would seem to generate more heat than anything else.

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### Author: ![MOIDALIZE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MOIDALIZE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MOIDALIZE)
#### Post date: [July 29, 2009, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-had-super-strength-could-i-squeeze-coal-into-diamonds/504121/33 "2009-07-29T19:23:06Z")

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Wow, the Earth gets great gas mileage.

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### Author: ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)
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Heh. 1000 mp **h**. Sorry.

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### Author: ![Lestrade](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/94ad74/32.png) [@Lestrade](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lestrade)
#### Post date: [July 30, 2009, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-had-super-strength-could-i-squeeze-coal-into-diamonds/504121/35 "2009-07-30T17:52:26Z")

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> [@Una\_Persson](#):
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> See:
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> Suits, C.G. “Man-Made Diamonds-A Progress Report.” _Proceedings of the American Philosophical Society_, 108.5 (1964): 443-449.
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> Look specifically for the image at the top of page 445. Alas the image is in black and white.

Thanks Una. Hey, look, I found the [picture in question](http://imgur.com/FNOHD.png) on [imgur.com](http://imgur.com). Superman could totally do that.

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### Author: ![SeanArenas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df705f/32.png) [@SeanArenas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SeanArenas)
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Could Superman swallow a lump of coal, and then pass a diamond?

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### Author: ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)
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> [@SeanArenas](#):
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> Could Superman swallow a lump of coal, and then pass a diamond?

Yes - if he’s prepared.

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### Author: ![SeanArenas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df705f/32.png) [@SeanArenas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SeanArenas)
#### Post date: [July 31, 2009, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-had-super-strength-could-i-squeeze-coal-into-diamonds/504121/38 "2009-07-31T02:21:21Z")

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> [@Una\_Persson](#):
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> Yes - if he’s prepared.

How do you prepare for something like that?

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### Author: ![paperbackwriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/53a042/32.png) [@paperbackwriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paperbackwriter)
#### Post date: [July 31, 2009, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-had-super-strength-could-i-squeeze-coal-into-diamonds/504121/39 "2009-07-31T03:34:56Z")

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**Lots** of fiber!

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