# If I have a 3-way with a mother and daughter, could I be committing a crime? **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [July 30, 2006, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-have-a-3-way-with-a-mother-and-daughter-could-i-be-committing-a-crime/366610 "2006-07-30T22:09:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2006, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-have-a-3-way-with-a-mother-and-daughter-could-i-be-committing-a-crime/366610/1 "2006-07-30T22:09:28Z")
[Inspired by this thread about sexual fantasies](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=381712) Suppose I ended up in a threesome with a mother and daughter. We are all legal adults. I am not related by blood or marriage to either. No one has been found mentally incompetent or anything like that. Are there any places out there where I might end up being convicted of something like, “conspiracy to commit incest” or maybe “aiding and abetting incest”? Places where sex among ANY three people might result in a criminal conviction? Cam anyone give me cites for either legislation or criminal codes on these subjects? ---
**Author:** ![LeftFootRightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f04885/32.png) [@LeftFootRightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LeftFootRightFoot)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2006, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-have-a-3-way-with-a-mother-and-daughter-could-i-be-committing-a-crime/366610/2 "2006-07-30T22:52:37Z")
I imagine a mother and daughter having sex is illegal in the US somehow by mere fact that they are 2 women. But of course all reasonable atheist moral limitations aside (they’re mother and daughter! hire a pair of strippers instead or something!) I imagine incest is against the law, and you would be involved in it, so probably aiding the process, lol. My opinion is in no way educated, just my 2 cents. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2006, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-have-a-3-way-with-a-mother-and-daughter-could-i-be-committing-a-crime/366610/3 "2006-07-30T23:21:08Z")
I find your ideas intriguing and would like to subscribe to your newsletter. Might be illegal, but next to impossible to prove in court unless you tape it. In which case, I’d like to order a copy… ---
**Author:** ![Lizard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dfb087/32.png) [@Lizard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lizard)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2006, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-have-a-3-way-with-a-mother-and-daughter-could-i-be-committing-a-crime/366610/4 "2006-07-30T23:21:59Z")
It couldn’t be incest unless the OP was related by blood to either the mother of the daughter. it could be incest for the two women, but only if they had intimate contact with each other during the 3-way. I’m no lawyer, this is just a WAG too, but it seems logical. I think Gene Simmons mentions doing this in “Kiss and Makeup.” ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2006, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-have-a-3-way-with-a-mother-and-daughter-could-i-be-committing-a-crime/366610/5 "2006-07-30T23:31:59Z")
> [@Lizard](#): > > …I think Gene Simmons mentions doing this in “Kiss and Makeup.” With that tongue, he’s about the best equipped guy I can think of to handle a threesome with two other women. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2006, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-have-a-3-way-with-a-mother-and-daughter-could-i-be-committing-a-crime/366610/6 "2006-07-30T23:33:00Z")
> [@Boyo Jim](#): > > …two **other** women. 😕 :eek: 😕😛 ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2006, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-have-a-3-way-with-a-mother-and-daughter-could-i-be-committing-a-crime/366610/7 "2006-07-30T23:40:38Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > 😕 :eek: 😕😛 I meant "…two other ( **than my two** ) women. ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2006, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-have-a-3-way-with-a-mother-and-daughter-could-i-be-committing-a-crime/366610/8 "2006-07-30T23:42:03Z")
Arrested for what? Being awesome? ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2006, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-have-a-3-way-with-a-mother-and-daughter-could-i-be-committing-a-crime/366610/9 "2006-07-30T23:58:28Z")
God, this situation was actually on the table for me a while back. I didn’t even consider what legal implications there might have been. I just ran away, fast. I’d known them both since the daughter was three – and she was only fifteen at the time it came up. (Which is legal here, but still _waaaaaaaaay_ too young for me.) There’s not enough therapy in the _world_ to make that right. Ewww. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2006, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-have-a-3-way-with-a-mother-and-daughter-could-i-be-committing-a-crime/366610/10 "2006-07-31T00:17:21Z")
Ok, I have to ask… how did the subject come up? ---
**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2006, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-have-a-3-way-with-a-mother-and-daughter-could-i-be-committing-a-crime/366610/11 "2006-07-31T00:27:14Z")
> [@LeftFootRightFoot](#): > > I imagine a mother and daughter having sex is illegal in the US somehow by mere fact that they are 2 women. Huh??? Where in the U.S. is it illegal for two women to have sex? ---
**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2006, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-have-a-3-way-with-a-mother-and-daughter-could-i-be-committing-a-crime/366610/12 "2006-07-31T01:00:30Z")
Og help me, I read the header and immediately began picturing Joan and Melissa Rivers. :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2006, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-have-a-3-way-with-a-mother-and-daughter-could-i-be-committing-a-crime/366610/13 "2006-07-31T01:06:17Z")
> [@Beware of Doug](#): > > Og help me, I read the header and immediately began picturing Joan and Melissa Rivers. :eek: I’m guessing that there’s not enough of Original Joan left to make it a problem. Other than the whole “Joan and Melissa Rivers” thing, of course. Although as a grudge fuck…could be interesting. ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2006, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-have-a-3-way-with-a-mother-and-daughter-could-i-be-committing-a-crime/366610/14 "2006-07-31T01:06:26Z")
> [@panache45](#): > > Huh??? Where in the U.S. is it illegal for two women to have sex? Anti-sodomy laws can include oral sex between same gender partners as being illegal. This link is a little old. I don’t know where the law stands now. [http://www.aclu.org/lgbt/crimjustice/12345res20010822.html](http://www.aclu.org/lgbt/crimjustice/12345res20010822.html) ---
**Author:** ![Stentor\_2.5](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc8723/32.png) [@Stentor\_2.5](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stentor_2.5)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2006, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-have-a-3-way-with-a-mother-and-daughter-could-i-be-committing-a-crime/366610/15 "2006-07-31T01:13:48Z")
SCOTUS ruled anti-sodomy laws unconstitutional several years ago. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2006, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-have-a-3-way-with-a-mother-and-daughter-could-i-be-committing-a-crime/366610/16 "2006-07-31T01:17:29Z")
Yes, of course it would be real sad if Mom and Daughter get dragged off to jail for incest or sodomy, but I’m concerned with MY legal status. But I will throw in another caveat – no butts. I don’t sodomize either of them. So we can take that off the table as far as my legal liability goes. As far as the question on “proving it”, let’s just say it was somehow videotaped in a legal manner. No one disputes the facts. Come to think of it, there are a couple of identical twins, whose names I can’r recall, that do porn films together. I wonder if they’ve talked to a lawyer about this? ---
**Author:** ![Excalibre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@Excalibre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Excalibre)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2006, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-have-a-3-way-with-a-mother-and-daughter-could-i-be-committing-a-crime/366610/17 "2006-07-31T01:19:15Z")
> [@panache45](#): > > Huh??? Where in the U.S. is it illegal for two women to have sex? Nowhere. Um, _Lawrence v. Texas_ (2003) anyone? ---
**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2006, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-have-a-3-way-with-a-mother-and-daughter-could-i-be-committing-a-crime/366610/18 "2006-07-31T02:16:02Z")
> [@Contrapuntal](#): > > I’m guessing that there’s not enough of Original Joan left to make it a problem. You don’t think she’s had _THAT_ lifted, too? Yikes. ---
**Author:** ![Tripler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripler/32/21807_2.png) [@Tripler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tripler)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2006, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-have-a-3-way-with-a-mother-and-daughter-could-i-be-committing-a-crime/366610/19 "2006-07-31T02:25:07Z")
> [@Beware of Doug](#): > > Og help me, I read the header and immediately began picturing Joan and Melissa Rivers. :eek: Hell, I’d take Melissa! I’d leave Darth Joan on the curbside tho. . . Don’t even get me started on that Paris Hilton slut. There’s a reason I keep my NVGs locked up. . . Tripler . . . night vision is locked up, but the rifle ain’t. :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Merhouse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5a626/32.png) [@Merhouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merhouse)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2006, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-have-a-3-way-with-a-mother-and-daughter-could-i-be-committing-a-crime/366610/20 "2006-07-31T02:36:20Z")
> [@Beware of Doug](#): > > Og help me, I read the header and immediately began picturing Joan and Melissa Rivers. :eek: I wish I had thought of this. It would make being gay so much easier to explain 🙂 [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-have-a-3-way-with-a-mother-and-daughter-could-i-be-committing-a-crime/366610.md?page=2)