# If I hear another butch faggot bitching about femme guys I am going to go postal. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 26, 2001, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-hear-another-butch-faggot-bitching-about-femme-guys-i-am-going-to-go-postal/51912 "2001-01-26T20:32:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2001, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-hear-another-butch-faggot-bitching-about-femme-guys-i-am-going-to-go-postal/51912/1 "2001-01-26T20:32:13Z")
These fucking muscle queens bitching about people being femme and “if I wanted a woman I’d be straight” are going up my butt about a MILE right now. Aren’t you sick of these assholes? Look, honey, I didn’t decide to go into the gay business so I could just be another macho idiot who happens to listen to the Pet Shop Boys, OK? Now, you can go be butch all you like; in fact sometimes butch boys turn me on. And you can even choose not to screw nelly boys. But for gods’ sake quit bitching about them! I did not decide to be femme to obey a stereotype, OK? If I wanted to be popular, going out and becoming Miss Thang would not be the way I’d go about it. If there is such a stereotype, **it** is conforming to **me.** I really don’t fucking give a shit if you think I’m giving you a bad name, or if you think people who see me drifting through life on a cloud of lavender fairy dust are going to think the same thing (horrors!) about you. It’s my fucking life, and they’re my fucking wrists, okay? If you don’t like it that **I** ’m a screaming queen on **my** own time, you can go fuck yourself. Drag queens and butch dykes fought for your rights at Stonewall. Show some respect. I did **not** come out of the closet and go through years of homophobic shit and become part of the gay liberation movement so that I could **keep** living how other people want me to live. Fucking assholes. I hope you all choke to death on steroid pills, _girlfriends!!_\* ---
**Author:** ![c\_goat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f4b2a3/32.png) [@c\_goat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/c_goat)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2001, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-hear-another-butch-faggot-bitching-about-femme-guys-i-am-going-to-go-postal/51912/2 "2001-01-26T21:26:56Z")
Great… now the gay people are calling each other “faggots”. When I was in college my gay friend would put anyone who said that into a painful hold of some sort so he could lecture them on how offensive it is. > [@](#): > > …are going up my butt about a MILE right now. Aren’t you sick of these assholes? Did you choose those words on purpose? Maybe I’m reading into it too much, I just find a possible other meaning amusing. May your crusade prove fruitful. (No pun initially intended, but now that I see it there I’m going to leave it) ---
**Author:** ![Needs2know](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5e925/32.png) [@Needs2know](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Needs2know)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2001, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-hear-another-butch-faggot-bitching-about-femme-guys-i-am-going-to-go-postal/51912/3 "2001-01-26T21:27:49Z")
I can tell you’ve been watching “Will and Grace”. Just turn the channel Matt, I can’t stand the stupid show either. Needs2know ---
**Author:** ![Freyr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/freyr/32/5763_2.png) [@Freyr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freyr)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2001, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-hear-another-butch-faggot-bitching-about-femme-guys-i-am-going-to-go-postal/51912/4 "2001-01-26T21:30:50Z")
Preach it, Brother **Matt\_mcl** , preach it! ---
**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2001, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-hear-another-butch-faggot-bitching-about-femme-guys-i-am-going-to-go-postal/51912/5 "2001-01-26T21:34:54Z")
Needs: nope. This is all my real life… (sigh) ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2001, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-hear-another-butch-faggot-bitching-about-femme-guys-i-am-going-to-go-postal/51912/6 "2001-01-26T21:44:00Z")
Matt, you go on and be as fabulous as you like. There are all flavors of gay folks, and nobody needs oppression from their own folks. There is no need to hide our nelly boys into the closet to be accepted by hets. I’m a masculine gay man, but I love and cherish my nelly brothers, too. ---
**Author:** ![Needs2know](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5e925/32.png) [@Needs2know](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Needs2know)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2001, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-hear-another-butch-faggot-bitching-about-femme-guys-i-am-going-to-go-postal/51912/7 "2001-01-26T21:51:46Z")
I’m sorry honey, I wish I could help. I can somewhat relate though. I used to be a fat chick. Now I’m fat, divorced and middle aged! See it ain’t easy being hetero either sometimes. Needs2know ---
**Author:** ![Diane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2acd7d/32.png) [@Diane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diane)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2001, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-hear-another-butch-faggot-bitching-about-femme-guys-i-am-going-to-go-postal/51912/8 "2001-01-26T21:59:46Z")
I never, repeat NEVER hop onto a thread just to say “LOL” or “you rule” (at least I can’t ever recall doing so) but I have to say Matt, even though it is obviously a sore subject for you, you had me laughing my ass off!! 😃 I have never heard your voice so please forgive me if I sound like I am stereotyping, but in reading your words (especially the “girlfriend” part) I could actually **hear** that lispy, bitchy, voice filled with attitude. :::Wayans Brothers voice on:::: Two snaps up and a slap on the behind :::Wayans Brothers voice off::: Priceless. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Ryan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7feea3/32.png) [@The\_Ryan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Ryan)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2001, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-hear-another-butch-faggot-bitching-about-femme-guys-i-am-going-to-go-postal/51912/9 "2001-01-26T22:14:33Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by matt\_mcl \* > Look, honey, I didn’t decide to go into the gay business It’s a business? ---
**Author:** ![SeaDiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/82dd89/32.png) [@SeaDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SeaDiver)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2001, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-hear-another-butch-faggot-bitching-about-femme-guys-i-am-going-to-go-postal/51912/10 "2001-01-26T22:37:58Z")
well, matt, you know what they say, “butch on the streets…” 😃 ---
**Author:** ![DeskMonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f14d63/32.png) [@DeskMonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeskMonkey)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2001, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-hear-another-butch-faggot-bitching-about-femme-guys-i-am-going-to-go-postal/51912/11 "2001-01-26T22:53:37Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by matt\_mcl \* > \*\*drifting through life on a cloud of lavender fairy dust \*\* \*\* \ . . . it’s images like this one that make me wish I were a gay man. All I can say is that what the hell fun would it be watching “Mommie Dearest” with some butch dude who would rather think about lifting weights than revel in poor little Christina’s misfortune?? Hmmm? Wear you tiara proudly, queenie! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2001, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-hear-another-butch-faggot-bitching-about-femme-guys-i-am-going-to-go-postal/51912/12 "2001-01-27T00:13:36Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by The Ryan \* > \*\* > > > [@](#): > > > > \*Originally posted by matt\_mcl \* > > Look, honey, I didn’t decide to go into the gay business > > It’s a business? \*\* For some people. For me it’s more of a volunteer social service. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![andygirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a9adbd/32.png) [@andygirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andygirl)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2001, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-hear-another-butch-faggot-bitching-about-femme-guys-i-am-going-to-go-postal/51912/13 "2001-01-27T00:44:27Z")
I think I’m one of the only professional queers on the boards. I feel so noble. Flame on, honey. ---
**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2001, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-hear-another-butch-faggot-bitching-about-femme-guys-i-am-going-to-go-postal/51912/14 "2001-01-27T00:45:34Z")
Hey everybody, let’s pay attention to **matt\_mcl**. He’s flaunting his sexuality again! Woo! Go boo-hoo somewhere else about how oppressed you are. Really. It’s getting annoying. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![andygirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a9adbd/32.png) [@andygirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andygirl)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2001, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-hear-another-butch-faggot-bitching-about-femme-guys-i-am-going-to-go-postal/51912/15 "2001-01-27T01:01:36Z")
Freido, was that really necessary? Look, Matt’s not saying, “I’m persecuted! Weep for me!” He’s just venting over the fact that there’s backlash against butch girls and femme boys within the community. Yeesh. Not everything that the gay posters write about homosexuality is a heartfelt plea for tolerance. ---
**Author:** ![McMurphy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e19adc/32.png) [@McMurphy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/McMurphy)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2001, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-hear-another-butch-faggot-bitching-about-femme-guys-i-am-going-to-go-postal/51912/16 "2001-01-27T01:03:21Z")
Don’t let it get you down Matt, my guess is behind closed doors those guys are about as butch as an ice skaters friend. If they’re happy acting like assholes then let 'em, at least you know better! ---
**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2001, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-hear-another-butch-faggot-bitching-about-femme-guys-i-am-going-to-go-postal/51912/17 "2001-01-27T01:20:16Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by matt\_mcl \* > \*\* > > > [@](#): > > > > \*Originally posted by The Ryan \* > > \*\* > > > > > [@](#): > > > > > > \*Originally posted by matt\_mcl \* > > > Look, honey, I didn’t decide to go into the gay business > > > > It’s a business? \*\* > > For some people. For me it’s more of a volunteer social service. 😃 \*\* Ha, I knew it. homosexuality is all just some big scam to try and get a tax deduction. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![AHunter3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ahunter3/32/368_2.png) [@AHunter3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AHunter3)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2001, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-hear-another-butch-faggot-bitching-about-femme-guys-i-am-going-to-go-postal/51912/18 "2001-01-27T01:22:25Z")
Right on, matt! Sissy power is where it’s at whether you’re gay or straight. Tired of being dissed by Clint Eastwood wannabees! (Not to mention gay-bashed once or twice). No, my macho “brothers”, we do not all wish that we were you. ---
**Author:** ![KP235](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9de0a6/32.png) [@KP235](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KP235)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2001, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-hear-another-butch-faggot-bitching-about-femme-guys-i-am-going-to-go-postal/51912/19 "2001-01-27T01:30:31Z")
I sorta figured I would never post in a gay related thread, as I figure I don’t have anything to much to add, but gee Matt, your opening line was just flat out funny ! It’s been mentioned before in this thread and I hope you can see that. That beside, I guess it does go to show, there’s no perfect world out there for any of us, no matter where we’re coming from. In my limited contact with anyone in the gay community I have seen some of the most headstrong, biased, opinionated, and sometimes rather annoying people I would ever care to meet. I can see how that would get on your nerves. Don’t let it get you down. You are you, and if others can’t deal with it, ignore ‘em. (I woulda said fuck ‘em, but I didn’t want it taken out of context.) ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Griffin-Kentzel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_griffin-kentzel/32/14787_2.png) [@Larry\_Griffin-Kentzel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Griffin-Kentzel)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2001, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-hear-another-butch-faggot-bitching-about-femme-guys-i-am-going-to-go-postal/51912/20 "2001-01-27T01:35:08Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by **andygirl** \* > Not everything that the gay posters write about homosexuality is a heartfelt plea for tolerance. Amen, sister! [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-hear-another-butch-faggot-bitching-about-femme-guys-i-am-going-to-go-postal/51912.md?page=2)