# If I hear the words "I only date tall guys" one more time...

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [July 29, 2010, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-hear-the-words-i-only-date-tall-guys-one-more-time/548498 "2010-07-29T20:22:52Z")\
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**Author:** ![Dogzilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@Dogzilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dogzilla)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-hear-the-words-i-only-date-tall-guys-one-more-time/548498/81 "2010-07-30T18:11:51Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> > [@StusBlues](#):
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> > I’m short, fat, 40 and poor. Dating a gorgeous 24-year-old. Happens.
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> Wow, that’s fantastic!
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> For you, I mean. Feel kinda bad for her.

Why? Maybe he has a huge dick.

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**Author:** ![dmatsch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3be4f8/32.png) [@dmatsch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dmatsch)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-hear-the-words-i-only-date-tall-guys-one-more-time/548498/82 "2010-07-30T18:13:42Z")

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> [@DiosaBellissima](#):
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> I bet she immediately came crawling back to you, seeing the err of her ways.

Unfortunately not. Sequel to the sudden shock of self-discovery and the overarching shame of her behaviors and attitudes forced her into the convent to live a life of celibacy and loneliness contemplating the error of her ways.

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**Author:** ![dmatsch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3be4f8/32.png) [@dmatsch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dmatsch)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-hear-the-words-i-only-date-tall-guys-one-more-time/548498/83 "2010-07-30T18:15:36Z")

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> [@zweisamkeit](#):
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> [Your problem isn’t that you’re short. Your problem is that you are hostile and insecure about a feature you can’t control that unfortunately can be a point of attractiveness (or unattractiveness). Instead of realizing that you can’t change it, you get bitter and nasty. _That_ is what shines through and what’ll make your dating prospects bad, long-term.

That’s a hell of a keyboard diagnosis for someone you’ve never met beyond a post on a message board.

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**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-hear-the-words-i-only-date-tall-guys-one-more-time/548498/84 "2010-07-30T18:39:50Z")

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> [@dmatsch](#):
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> …
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> OK. I’ll say it. Bosstone, Wile E, Eiphonious Polemic, and especially that DMATSCH guy are all going on my list of people first against the wall when the revolution comes.
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> Good night, and good luck.

Thank goodness I’m really short, the firing squad will shoot over my head in order to hit the other guys.

Or shoot the other guys in the knees. Hmm … May have to rethink that.

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**Author:** ![rhubarbarin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/eb9ed0/32.png) [@rhubarbarin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rhubarbarin)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-hear-the-words-i-only-date-tall-guys-one-more-time/548498/85 "2010-07-30T19:20:04Z")

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> [@dmatsch](#):
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> > [@Dogzilla](#):
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> > When single, I will scan the room, scope out all the short men and make a point of talking to the ones who are with tall friends (who are getting all the chicks’ attention). I also make a point of talking to the shy, quiet, laid-back guys, completely ignoring the aggressive alpha males. The tall, blustery alphas get plenty of attention, so my attention doesn’t mean as much to them as it does to a short, shy man. Usually, when I’m paying attention to the guys who aren’t getting as much attention as the others, I generally get their attention all to myself and don’t have to compete with a bunch of nasty, shallow bitches to talk to a nice guy.
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> I don’t mean any offense by this, but I’m calling bullshit. Women who do the things quoted here don’t exist. Period.

Hahaha. If you really believe this I’m not surprised you’re having trouble.

I kind of understand where you are coming from. My appearance is a deal-breaker to many men - I have a BMI of 16 and a nearly flat chest. If I have to hear the words ‘stick insect’ one more time… but then, I have a lot of physical deal-breakers myself for the opposite sex - I only date men with dark hair, for example.

I can agree that the majority of the women I know seem to find above-average height and extroversion/macho-ness very sexually attractive. But don’t you know quite a few men who have opposite traits who get laid, get married and even reproduce?

Only quiet, reserved, non-aggressive men have ever been possible or actual romantic prospects for me, and physical tallness/bigness in men is a turn-off. I am 5’5", and the tallest man I’ve ever crushed on, much less dated, has been maybe 5" taller than me. My partner is 5’8"\* which is an acceptable height difference, and I’ve been attracted to a lot of men who were around my height or shorter.

\*he is also older than me (by 17 years, and we got together when I was 19) and not well-off financially - two things I also prefer, believe it or not. There are some stereotypes about women/men/dating that have a great deal of truth, but there are also women who like the opposite of every stereotype.

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**Author:** ![TheTerribleTako](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ba8739/32.png) [@TheTerribleTako](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheTerribleTako)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-hear-the-words-i-only-date-tall-guys-one-more-time/548498/86 "2010-07-30T20:05:23Z")

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> [@dmatsch](#):
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> I don’t mean any offense by this, but I’m calling bullshit. Women who do the things quoted here don’t exist. Period.

Right, because no short or laid-back guys have ever been laid. Seriously, speaking as one of those shallow 20-somethings, we don’t all desire those tall, alpha male types. I’m 5’6 and my boyfriend of 8 years is 5’4, so obviously, being tall is not a deal-breaker for me. It’s a deal-breaker for some of my friends, but then again, they date plenty of guys who have my deal-breakers. As my friends stay in the dating field longer, some of them might eventually meet someone they’re willing to bend their rules for.

Here’s the thing though, note that all the ladies who talked about having short boyfriends/husbands have emphasized that their guys are awesome. Mine is pretty damn awesome as well. He has a great personality and makes tons of friends both male and female, he has a great career that also makes for interesting dinner conversation, and he can also work a power tool like nobody’s business\*. So you’re not just competing against tall guys, you’re also competing against short guys who are adventurous, sweet, smart, and fun.

\*ok, that sounds more euphemistic than I originally intended.

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**Author:** ![StusBlues](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@StusBlues](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StusBlues)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-hear-the-words-i-only-date-tall-guys-one-more-time/548498/87 "2010-07-30T20:16:18Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> > [@StusBlues](#):
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> > I’m short, fat, 40 and poor. Dating a gorgeous 24-year-old. Happens.
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> Wow, that’s fantastic!
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> For you, I mean. Feel kinda bad for her.

Yeah, she has to put up with all my bad habits. Like when I lick my eyebrows.

In all seriousness, we really are rather delereously happy–or she is a remarkable actress. Our friends at church didn’t really mean to set us up, but kept telling her how she really needed to meet this Stu character because we had so many common interests. We finally met, shared some Facebook messages about our nieces’ respective potty-training troubles, and (a few weeks after) went to a jazz concert together. She moved in two days later. That was about a year ago.

> [@lindsaybluth](#):
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> This might be the smartest thing I’ve ever read on the dope.

Thank you, **Lindsay**.

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**Author:** ![Crafter\_Man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crafter_man/32/458_2.png) [@Crafter\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crafter_Man)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-hear-the-words-i-only-date-tall-guys-one-more-time/548498/88 "2010-07-30T20:58:05Z")

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I’m also 5’ 6". I feel your pain. And to make matters worse, I’m bald. A double whammy.

I’m educated (MS in electrical engineering), make a good salary (six figures), not hideous looking, have a good sense of humor, and treat people with respect. Yet throughout my life I have garnered no attention from females. I have a buddy who is 6’ 1", tattoos, HS education, and unemployed most of the time. Women flock to him when we go out. I’m ignored. Being short and bald is not fun.

I’m not complaining or anything; it is what it is. I just find whole situation fascinating. Women are strange… they claim they want a “nice, educated” guy, but their actions indicate they want the polar opposite.

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**Author:** ![Crafter\_Man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crafter_man/32/458_2.png) [@Crafter\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crafter_Man)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-hear-the-words-i-only-date-tall-guys-one-more-time/548498/89 "2010-07-30T21:05:47Z")

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> [@DiosaBellissima](#):
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> And I just want to respond to this as a fat chick: plenty of guys aren’t attracted to me for the sole reason that I’m fat. So? I’m not attracted to plenty of guys for plenty of reasons. It happens. I guarantee you that some of the folks reading this thread are in no way attracted to fat people, just like some aren’t at all attracted to thin people.

You’re comparing apples with oranges.

I’m short and bald. I can’t do anything about it. But a person _can_ do something about being fat.

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-hear-the-words-i-only-date-tall-guys-one-more-time/548498/90 "2010-07-30T21:26:15Z")

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> [@Crafter\_Man](#):
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> I’m short and bald. I can’t do anything about it. But a person _can_ do something about being fat.

So Rogaine it up.

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**Author:** ![zweisamkeit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zweisamkeit/32/4360_2.png) [@zweisamkeit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zweisamkeit)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-hear-the-words-i-only-date-tall-guys-one-more-time/548498/91 "2010-07-30T21:48:30Z")

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> [@Crafter\_Man](#):
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> > [@DiosaBellissima](#):
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> > And I just want to respond to this as a fat chick: plenty of guys aren’t attracted to me for the sole reason that I’m fat. So? I’m not attracted to plenty of guys for plenty of reasons. It happens. I guarantee you that some of the folks reading this thread are in no way attracted to fat people, just like some aren’t at all attracted to thin people.
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> You’re comparing apples with oranges.
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> I’m short and bald. I can’t do anything about it. But a person _can_ do something about being fat.

Hey guys, don’t reply to this or it’s gonna turn into **Crafter Man** the Former Fatty Against Fatties for like, 6 pages.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-hear-the-words-i-only-date-tall-guys-one-more-time/548498/92 "2010-07-30T22:02:47Z")

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Yes. Nothing riles the blood like fatpostasy.

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-hear-the-words-i-only-date-tall-guys-one-more-time/548498/93 "2010-07-30T23:58:53Z")

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> [@jjimm](#):
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> Tonight I’m taking out a girl who’s 5’. I think she’s so short she hasn’t noticed my lack of stature yet…

> [@Slithy\_Tove](#):
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> It’s not stature but presence that makes an impact. Improve your posture and you’ll look like a lord among slouching goons. Suck in that gut, pull in that chin, and fix your gaze into a steely yet wry visage. Put the back of your skull, the blades of your shoulders and the prominences of your buttocks on a single imaginary pole. Breathe from the diaphram, exulting in the vitality of your body. No woman alive would hesitate to kneel in your toenail clippings while she sucks your wiener.

Well, did it work?

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**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2010, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-hear-the-words-i-only-date-tall-guys-one-more-time/548498/94 "2010-07-31T00:47:14Z")

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what, my posture or my wiener?

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**Author:** ![Nocturne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9fc348/32.png) [@Nocturne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nocturne)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2010, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-hear-the-words-i-only-date-tall-guys-one-more-time/548498/95 "2010-07-31T04:05:57Z")

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I am also 5’6". I don’t date tall guys.

Seriously. I’ve never dated someone taller than 5’10". I tower over my current boyfriend now if I wear heels. It’s awesome.

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**Author:** ![Interconnected\_Series\_of\_Tubes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/13edae/32.png) [@Interconnected\_Series\_of\_Tubes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Interconnected_Series_of_Tubes)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2010, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-hear-the-words-i-only-date-tall-guys-one-more-time/548498/96 "2010-07-31T05:21:52Z")

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Hmm.

I dunno, I’d consider a 5’6" guy pretty short. Statistically, you’re short. You’re not going to get the chicks who want tall guys. Pretty simple, really. Wouldn’t you rather be with somebody who finds you physically attractive?

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2010, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-hear-the-words-i-only-date-tall-guys-one-more-time/548498/97 "2010-07-31T05:37:08Z")

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> [@Bosstone](#):
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> > [@Crafter\_Man](#):
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> > I’m short and bald. I can’t do anything about it. But a person _can_ do something about being fat.
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> So Rogaine it up.

Or, to be more precise, wear a wig and platform shoes. Those are a lot easier than losing weight.

If someone blasts people about being overweight, then there’s no reason they should expect sympathy for being bald and short.

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**Author:** ![suranyi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@suranyi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/suranyi)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2010, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-hear-the-words-i-only-date-tall-guys-one-more-time/548498/98 "2010-08-02T02:46:45Z")

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I’m 5’4". For me, shyness was a much bigger factor in preventing me from dating than my height. Once I finally got the nerve to approach women and ask them out on dates, I never lacked for female companionship.

Of course, on the average women prefer taller men. But I didn’t care about the average. I was looking for someone interested in me. And they were out there, I just had to find them.

I did find that Internet dating sites were not very fruitful for me. Partly, I think, it’s because my height was so clearly indicated near the top of my profile. It was easy for women to filter me out right away. Whereas in real life I was able to make the real “me” shine through my height.

The one thing that happened during my dating years that made me really angry was when I signed up for one dating site which shall remain nameless. A few days later I got a message back saying they were refunding my money because they had no women members who would be willing to date a guy as short as me.

Of course, I don’t worry about any of this any more since I have been married for years now.

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**Author:** ![CrazyCatLady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dfb087/32.png) [@CrazyCatLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CrazyCatLady)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2010, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-hear-the-words-i-only-date-tall-guys-one-more-time/548498/99 "2010-08-02T04:15:19Z")

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Hmmm. I’ll have to be sure and inform **DoctorJ** that he’ll never find a woman willing to date him. Of course, if I caught him looking for someone to date, I’d be obligated to kick his ass. And of course, ease of ass-kicking is the major advantage to being with someone 3 inches shorter than you. 😃

I’m 5’8", he’s 5’5", and the friends we most often spent time with in the early years of our relationship are both 5’ and fractions. Walking around with the three of them, I feel like I ought to be able to see my house from way up here. He used to have a really bad attitude about being short, too. The first time we went out dressed up and he was tiptoeing and standing on steps and shit, I damn near kneecapped his banty rooster ass. I mean, _really._ It was even more annoying and obnoxious than all the pissing and moaning he used to do about how girls wouldn’t go out with him because he’s short, which is quite frankly saying rather a lot. Damn good thing he got over himself; I couldn’t have put up with that for very long.

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**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2010, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-hear-the-words-i-only-date-tall-guys-one-more-time/548498/100 "2010-08-02T04:36:24Z")

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> [@suranyi](#):
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> The one thing that happened during my dating years that made me really angry was when I signed up for one dating site which shall remain nameless. A few days later I got a message back saying they were refunding my money because they had no women members who would be willing to date a guy as short as me.

Wow. Seriously.

You sure you won’t tell us what site that was?

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