# If I like the musical group Coldplay, I'd also like... **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 5, 2004, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-like-the-musical-group-coldplay-id-also-like/248825 "2004-06-05T16:50:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Soapbox\_Monkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Soapbox\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soapbox_Monkey)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2004, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-like-the-musical-group-coldplay-id-also-like/248825/41 "2004-06-08T17:56:03Z")
> [@lissener](#): > > I don’t get the “current” remark: yes, Buckley came before Radiohead; that’s what I’m saying. How does pointing this out suggest that Radiohead wasn’t influenced by him? > > As far as “much” vs. “a little,” that’s open to interpretation of course. Personally, I think it’s inarguable that Jeff Buckley gave male singers permission to sing again; he made it OK not be be afraid of melody. \*Grace \* was truly alternative in its day: all the other male vocalists were shouting and pounding with their voices, and Jeff comes along with his Judy Garland and Nina Simone and Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan and Robert Plant influences and made it cool for guys to open up their throats and \*sing \* again. The prevailing style at the time was Cobain’s and Vedder’s. Not dissing; just distinguishing. > > You want to look at dates for a smoking gun, when did Radiohead’s style begin to evolve toward what it is today? Between \*The Bends \* (1995) and \*OK Computer \* (1997). > > You seem to be defending Radiohead against some kind of accusation. Identifying and acknowledging an artist’s influences isn’t any such thing. If I ever get off my ass and start my band, I’ll be happy to list my influences for anyone who’d care to ask–they’ll include Jeff AND Radiohead. While a Buckley influence is present, I’m saying that it’s minimal. There was some falsetto present on Pablo Honey. Since Buckley and Yorke became songwriters at roughly the same time, I would say that the similarities come from them having a similar group of influences, rather than one directly influencing the other. And the biggest evolution between the Bends and OK Computer was not the vocals, it was the music, IMHO. Umm…we’re not going to get in trouble for leading this thread off topic, are we? :eek: ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2004, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-like-the-musical-group-coldplay-id-also-like/248825/42 "2004-06-08T20:50:07Z")
> [@Soapbox Monkey](#): > > While a Buckley influence is present, I’m saying that it’s minimal. . . . > > Umm…we’re not going to get in trouble for leading this thread off topic, are we? :eek: Yeah, we should probably drop this, because your first line I quoted abvce strikes me as conclusive evidence that you’ve never even heard of the musicians under discussion. As subjective as such things are, I can’t think of a statement I’ve ever come across in this forum that is, according to my own subjective opinion of course, more blatantly just _wrong_. To listen to post \*Grace \* Radiohead and not be just struck over the head by the vast and foundational, Buckley-driven shift in their style strikes me as, well, again, just unfathomably wrong. YM, of course, MV. Maybe it’s because you did Radiohead first, and then Buckley after? I was a hardcore Buckley fanatic for more than a year before he released his first album, and there was nothing at all like him out there, anywhere. Then \*Grace \* came out, and over time I gradually started to hear his influence creeping into the styles of many, many other artists–chief among them, Radiohead. But I’ll drop it here, because again this kind of thing is so subjective. ---
**Author:** ![Legolamb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4491bb/32.png) [@Legolamb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Legolamb)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2004, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-like-the-musical-group-coldplay-id-also-like/248825/43 "2004-06-08T21:11:57Z")
> [@drhess](#): > > If I like the musical group Coldplay, I’d also like… … a prescription for some anti-depressants? But in all seriousness, try Gomez. Start with “Get Myself Arrested” and work from there. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2004, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-like-the-musical-group-coldplay-id-also-like/248825/44 "2004-06-08T23:20:26Z")
> [@lissener](#): > > I don’t get the “current” remark: yes, Buckley came before Radiohead; that’s what I’m saying. How does pointing this out suggest that Radiohead wasn’t influenced by him? I think he means that Radiohead’s music owed more to Jeff Buckley in 1995 than it does today. I’m not a Jeff Buckley expert but I don’t think his stuff sounded anything like Kid A or Hail to the Thief, so The Bends and to a lesser degree OK Computer probably made the influence much more clear. ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2004, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-like-the-musical-group-coldplay-id-also-like/248825/45 "2004-06-08T23:25:00Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > I think he means that Radiohead’s music owed more to Jeff Buckley in 1995 than it does today. I’m not a Jeff Buckley expert but I don’t think his stuff sounded anything like Kid A or Hail to the Thief, so The Bends and to a lesser degree OK Computer probably made the influence much more clear. No, it’s definitely the post \*Bends \* stuff that shows the influence: the soaring vocals, the lush melodies. Nobody was doing that anymore until Jeff came along. Before \*Grace \* came out, Radiohead was a pretty conventional boys-with-guitars band. Within a couple years of _Grace_, they were off in a new direction, which they’re still exploring today. ---
**Author:** ![Soapbox\_Monkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Soapbox\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soapbox_Monkey)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2004, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-like-the-musical-group-coldplay-id-also-like/248825/46 "2004-06-08T23:56:00Z")
> [@lissener](#): > > Maybe it’s because you did Radiohead first, and then Buckley after? You are correct, so this is clearly the reason for our disagreement. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2004, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-like-the-musical-group-coldplay-id-also-like/248825/47 "2004-06-09T04:39:32Z")
> [@Trunk](#): > > I was coming to say **U2** …I’m just surprised that a lot of people I know who like Coldplay don’t like U2. I would agree if the band you were comparing to U2 were Starsailor rather than Coldplay. > [@](#): > > Also, maybe **Oasis, Echo and the Bunnymen, Joy Division, Cure** for some solid brit pop-rock. :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek: There are bands every once in awhile that I am predisposed to dislike, then I hear a song by them that I do not KNOW is by them, then I hear it is by them and my entire opinion changes. Coldplay is not one of those bands. As a matter of fact, I heard a song by them which was sort of lame, without knowing it was by them until after the fact. It just made me dislike them all the more. ---
**Author:** ![antechinus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/fbc32d/32.png) [@antechinus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/antechinus)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2004, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-like-the-musical-group-coldplay-id-also-like/248825/48 "2004-06-11T23:20:13Z")
I cannot believe that no one has mentioned **Alex Lloyd** yet. [Discography](http://www.emicatalogue.co.nz/Discography.aspx?artist=3452) ``` * Black The Sun (1999) * Watching Angels Mend (2001) * Distant Light Distant Light (2003) is the third album released by Australian singer-songwriter Alex Lloyd. It has been certified platinum in Australia and had three top 40 singles taken from it. ``` If you like Coldplay there is a very good chance you will like Alex Lloyd. ---
**Author:** ![antechinus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/fbc32d/32.png) [@antechinus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/antechinus)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2004, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-like-the-musical-group-coldplay-id-also-like/248825/49 "2004-06-12T23:49:17Z")
**drhess** , listen to “Amazing” by Alex LLoyd for a taste of what his music is like. ---
**Author:** ![gooti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/eb8c5e/32.png) [@gooti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gooti)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2004, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-like-the-musical-group-coldplay-id-also-like/248825/50 "2004-06-13T06:29:03Z")
I’d say **Radiohead** , **U2** , and **Muse**. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-like-the-musical-group-coldplay-id-also-like/248825.md?page=2)