# If I lliked Honor Harrington... **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 18, 2007, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-lliked-honor-harrington/404544 "2007-05-18T02:55:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Stuffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f17d59/32.png) [@Stuffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stuffy)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2007, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-lliked-honor-harrington/404544/1 "2007-05-18T02:55:08Z")
David Weber writes too slow. Is there any other series out there that comes close? I’d like to get started on another good series I can sink my teeth into. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2007, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-lliked-honor-harrington/404544/2 "2007-05-18T03:49:34Z")
> [@](#): > > David Weber writes too slow. Ah, so I’m not the only one wondering why it’s taking so long. I’ve heard rumors of a sequel to _Crown of Slaves_, but that was close to a year ago, and still nothing more than rumor. But to your question: Personally, I kept hearing about how Honor Harrington is Horatio Hornblower in space, and so decided to check out that series. It’s historical rather than science-fiction, of course, but other than that, it is in fact very stylistically similar. Or, of course, you could read other series by Weber. I’ll recommend _Oath of Swords_ and _The War God’s Own_, the first two Bahzel Bahnakson books (the third one, though, _Wind Rider’s Oath_, could have been a lot better, though). They’re the story of a paladin berserker who’s initially very reluctant to answer the War God’s call, and even when he does, answers it in a very unique way. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2007, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-lliked-honor-harrington/404544/3 "2007-05-18T04:54:16Z")
You ever read Lois Mcmaster Bujold? If you like Weber I think you would like the Miles Vorkosigan books. I hope I spelled that right. Didn’t bother to look it up. ---
**Author:** ![Declan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecae2f/32.png) [@Declan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Declan)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2007, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-lliked-honor-harrington/404544/4 "2007-05-18T06:12:00Z")
[QUOTE=Chronos] Ah, so I’m not the only one wondering why it’s taking so long. I’ve heard rumors of a sequel to _Crown of Slaves_, but that was close to a year ago, and still nothing more than rumor. [/QUOTE] He does have a number of concurrent books at any given time. On Armageddon Reef and 1634 just came out recently. My strong desire is that he kills Hamish , so we can get on with the good stuff when the war with TFN begins. My guess is that its getting boring for him, so he may be stretching the series to keep it from getting lame and predictable. HH books usually go bout two years between , so I am assuming another couple of months at least. Declan ---
**Author:** ![Declan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecae2f/32.png) [@Declan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Declan)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2007, 6:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-lliked-honor-harrington/404544/5 "2007-05-18T06:13:21Z")
[QUOTE=Stuffy] David Weber writes too slow. Is there any other series out there that comes close? I’d like to get started on another good series I can sink my teeth into. [/QUOTE] Elizabeth Moon and second the bujold recomendation. Declan ---
**Author:** ![Declan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecae2f/32.png) [@Declan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Declan)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2007, 7:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-lliked-honor-harrington/404544/6 "2007-05-18T07:07:28Z")
I went looking on the Baen website for any additional info on the sequel to crowns, and this popped up on the bar [David Weber interview](http://www.scifi.com/sfw/interviews/sfw15625.html) Its mainly a Reef interview , but at the very bottom he gives out some future info on whats coming up. Declan ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2007, 9:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-lliked-honor-harrington/404544/7 "2007-05-18T09:13:43Z")
Third the Bujold. Also, there’s David Brin - different part of the genre, but the _Uplift Saga_ is wall-to-wall goodness, IMO ---
**Author:** ![Meurglys](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/258eb7/32.png) [@Meurglys](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meurglys)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2007, 11:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-lliked-honor-harrington/404544/8 "2007-05-18T11:39:45Z")
**Elizabeth Moon** has already been mentioned - I think I prefer her current _Vatta’s War_ series to the _Serrano Legacy_ books… Or there’s **Jack Campbell** ’s _Lost Fleet_ series (only 2 books so far, though), **Ian Douglas** ’s - _The Heritage Trilogy_ **Mike Shepherd** ’s _Kris Longknife_ books (4 so far) And, curiously, I’ve just noticed that all three of these authors are psudonyms! ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2007, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-lliked-honor-harrington/404544/9 "2007-05-18T13:41:32Z")
Try the **Sten** books by Chris Bunch and Alan Cole. ---
**Author:** ![Eleanor\_of\_Aquitaine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a88e4f/32.png) [@Eleanor\_of\_Aquitaine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eleanor_of_Aquitaine)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2007, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-lliked-honor-harrington/404544/10 "2007-05-18T13:54:04Z")
I also recommend Bujold. I only discovered those recently and they’re excellent. Tanya Huff’s Valor series is good: **Valor’s Choice** , **The Better Part of Valor,** and the new one comes out next month: **The Heart of Valor**. They’re military sci-fi, and the heroine is a Staff Sergeant. More hesitantly I’d say give David Feintuch a try - his series starts with **Midshipman’s Hope**. They’re a little juvenile, but I kindof liked them. They’re Hornblower-in-space also. ---
**Author:** ![StGermain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stgermain/32/2868_2.png) [@StGermain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StGermain)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2007, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-lliked-honor-harrington/404544/11 "2007-05-18T14:36:57Z")
I’m also going to recommend Bujold’s Vorkosigan books and Elizabeth Moon. I love the Paksenarrion series, and I named a dog Simon because he reminded me of Simon Illyan (before). StG ---
**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2007, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-lliked-honor-harrington/404544/12 "2007-05-18T15:33:51Z")
[QUOTE=Eleanor of Aquitaine] IMore hesitantly I’d say give David Feintuch a try - his series starts with **Midshipman’s Hope**. They’re a little juvenile, but I kindof liked them. They’re Hornblower-in-space also. [/QUOTE] I read _Midshipman’s Hope_, as I picked it up from the author at WorldCon 2001, but I didn’t like it enough to continue with the series. I thought that the book suffered from introducing a solution to a problem “just in time” too many times. As one example: At one point, the crew determines that the computer is fundamentally hosed. Suddenly they remember that every ship carries a complete backup image of the computer system as of the end of the last voyage. This point had not previously been presented in the book. ---
**Author:** ![Stuffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f17d59/32.png) [@Stuffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stuffy)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2007, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-lliked-honor-harrington/404544/13 "2007-05-18T15:36:18Z")
Thanks for the suggestions so far. I guess I should mention I’m not into much fantasy, but the Bujold and Sheperd books look promising. I read the Feintuch books, they were good but the protagonist was kind of depressing. For the Bujold books, can someone tell me a good place to start? ---
**Author:** ![Eleanor\_of\_Aquitaine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a88e4f/32.png) [@Eleanor\_of\_Aquitaine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eleanor_of_Aquitaine)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2007, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-lliked-honor-harrington/404544/14 "2007-05-18T16:13:47Z")
[QUOTE=Stuffy] Thanks for the suggestions so far. I guess I should mention I’m not into much fantasy, but the Bujold and Sheperd books look promising. I read the Feintuch books, they were good but the protagonist was kind of depressing. For the Bujold books, can someone tell me a good place to start? [/QUOTE] Yes, Feintuch’s protagonist was depressing. Have you ever read the Horatio Hornblower books? I find him depressing too. You can get omnibus editions of the Bujold books now, and that will save you some money if you’re buying them new. I like that they include the short stories. The [wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lois_McMaster_Bujold) page lists the books in order and also lists the omnibus volumes. The Vorkosigan saga starts with _Shards of Honor_ and _Barrayar_, which are about Miles’s parents, then they begin featuring Miles himself in _The Warrior’s Apprentice_. Three of the novels in this series are Hugo winners. ---
**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2007, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-lliked-honor-harrington/404544/15 "2007-05-18T17:07:22Z")
I liked _The Helmsman_ series by Bill Baldwin, but I dont think he’s writing anymore… ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2007, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-lliked-honor-harrington/404544/16 "2007-05-18T17:22:12Z")
You should also check out Steve White. He’s a sometimes Weber collaborator who does the same sort of epic space combat. _The Stars at War_ is a collection of three of his novels all set in the same universe, although they’re not direct sequels to each other. For Bujold’s Vorkosigan series, start with _Shards of Honor_, which tells how Miles’ parents met, and sets up the world of Barrayar and it’s place in the explored galaxy. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2007, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-lliked-honor-harrington/404544/17 "2007-05-18T19:09:25Z")
> [@](#): > > My strong desire is that he kills Hamish , so we can get on with the good stuff when the war with TFN begins. I’m having a hard time parsing this. How would killing the First Space Lord help with getting on with action? And who are TFN? The most likely next opponents are Mesa and/or the Solarian league. Or is there also a character named Hamish in one of the other series mentioned here? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2007, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-lliked-honor-harrington/404544/18 "2007-05-18T19:54:36Z")
If you lliked Honor Harrington, you just might be a llama. Just kidding. May I recommend _Tuf Voyaging_ by George R.R. Martin? Here’s a previous thread about it: [Any other fans of G.R.R. Martin's "Tuf Voyaging"? - Cafe Society - Straight Dope Message Board](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=315376) The _Hammer’s Slammers_ series by David Drake is pretty good, particularly the early ones. It’s about an interplanetary mercenary armor regiment in the distant future. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2007, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-lliked-honor-harrington/404544/19 "2007-05-18T19:58:39Z")
[QUOTE=Elendil’s Heir] If you lliked Honor Harrington, you just might be a llama. [/QUOTE] That was llame. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2007, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-lliked-honor-harrington/404544/20 "2007-05-18T20:21:00Z")
Sorry. That’s just how I rolll. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-i-lliked-honor-harrington/404544.md?page=2)