# If Jeb Bush were elected POTUS in 2008 how many would consider moving to Canada?

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**Created:** [January 19, 2005, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-jeb-bush-were-elected-potus-in-2008-how-many-would-consider-moving-to-canada/285481 "2005-01-19T02:37:49Z")\
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**Author:** ![Ranchoth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranchoth/32/1066_2.png) [@Ranchoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranchoth)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2005, 9:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-jeb-bush-were-elected-potus-in-2008-how-many-would-consider-moving-to-canada/285481/21 "2005-01-19T09:30:35Z")

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I wouldn’t move, but I’d seriously consider trying to start up a new, true-Centrist political party. (Our motto: “Make Love AND War.”) Y’know, give people who didn’t want to vote for Republicans a choice besides voting for Democrats. (And vice-versa)

Ranchoth  
(“Vote Ranchoth in 2012…He’ll let you buy guns AND porno.”)

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**Author:** ![butter\_pie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/aca169/32.png) [@butter\_pie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/butter_pie)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2005, 11:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-jeb-bush-were-elected-potus-in-2008-how-many-would-consider-moving-to-canada/285481/22 "2005-01-19T11:13:46Z")

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I spent some time in Canada a few years ago and let me say, I really did not want to come back. I love it there and felt so much more like I belonged. Believe me – I would be living and working there if there was any way on earth I could. But getting citizenship is very difficult and I have neither the money or the qualifications. My only hope of getting into Canada would be to marry a very rich Canadian.

If I end up breaking up with the current bf, I may seriously consider it. (And yeah, I know about the Marry an American site. ) 😛

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2005, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-jeb-bush-were-elected-potus-in-2008-how-many-would-consider-moving-to-canada/285481/23 "2005-01-19T14:05:13Z")

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That’s It. We Need A Vomit Smiley!

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**Author:** ![UrbanChic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/9dc877/32.png) [@UrbanChic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UrbanChic)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2005, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-jeb-bush-were-elected-potus-in-2008-how-many-would-consider-moving-to-canada/285481/24 "2005-01-19T14:36:16Z")

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> [@John Carter of Mars](#):
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> I’d rather stay here and try to make things better, instead of turning tail and running because I didn’t get my way.

Hear, hear! I’m a Republican, though, so I would be getting my way, in a sense.

Besides, I don’t want to live in an igloo and fend off bears on my way to work at the salmon cannery.

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**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2005, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-jeb-bush-were-elected-potus-in-2008-how-many-would-consider-moving-to-canada/285481/25 "2005-01-19T15:54:21Z")

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Jeb scares me more than Dubya. He’s slick, sneakier and harder to read. Environmentally he could be just a scosh better than Dubya, then again he’s slick so maybe not. That whole buying up of the oil-drilling contracts of the FL coast was just to help him win his second term so he could help Dubya win his second term.

Eh, if I did leave the country I probably wouldn’t go to Canada, I think I am much more used to the tropics.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2005, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-jeb-bush-were-elected-potus-in-2008-how-many-would-consider-moving-to-canada/285481/26 "2005-01-19T16:13:01Z")

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If I was of retirement age I’d go in a heartbeat. It would make it more problematic to visit kids and grandkids but it would be well worth it. For me, it would only be about 90 miles anyway.

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**Author:** ![RevCo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9fc348/32.png) [@RevCo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RevCo)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2005, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-jeb-bush-were-elected-potus-in-2008-how-many-would-consider-moving-to-canada/285481/27 "2005-01-19T20:49:34Z")

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> [@trublmakr](#):
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> So when you say, “not many, I don’t think”, and it’s a double negative, you’re actually saying “many”, right? Or do you really think not many?

I think the same amount of people would move to Canada as did in 2000 and 2004 - 0. Makes for a good punchline and everyone “knows” someone who’s moving there, but nobody is.

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**Author:** ![The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/74df32/32.png) [@The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Devil_s_Grandmother)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2005, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-jeb-bush-were-elected-potus-in-2008-how-many-would-consider-moving-to-canada/285481/28 "2005-01-19T22:06:00Z")

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> [@DanBlather](#):
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> In Florida, felons can not vote. I assume if you can’t vote you can’t run for office. Now we just need to dig up some dirt on Jeb.

Not true. You can run and (for that matter) serve from your jail cell.

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**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2005, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-jeb-bush-were-elected-potus-in-2008-how-many-would-consider-moving-to-canada/285481/29 "2005-01-19T22:09:16Z")

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> [@trublmakr](#):
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> So when you say, “not many, I don’t think”, and it’s a double negative, you’re actually saying “many”, right? Or do you really think not many?

If I had said “Not many I don’t think” it would have meant literally “I think many will leave.”

This goes back to the tried and true rule that a double negative actually equals an affirmation. And while using said form isn’t necessarily wrong it has been frowned upon somewhat.

However the exception to the rule is when the two negatives are part of a different clause or phrase. The comma I placed in between “not many, I don’t think” divide the sentence into two clauses. Each clause being a negative clause because each clause has one negative.

That’s your free grammar lesson for the day.

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**Author:** ![CynicalGabe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3e96dc/32.png) [@CynicalGabe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CynicalGabe)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2005, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-jeb-bush-were-elected-potus-in-2008-how-many-would-consider-moving-to-canada/285481/30 "2005-01-19T23:29:33Z")

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No, I’m _considering_ moving north now, a PrezJeb would make it definite.

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**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2005, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-jeb-bush-were-elected-potus-in-2008-how-many-would-consider-moving-to-canada/285481/31 "2005-01-19T23:39:04Z")

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When Hitler obtained the office of Chencellor and started unveiling his great plans, didn’t a bunch of people leave Germany for the relative safety of Holland, Poland, Czechoslovakia…

If Jeb’s bad enough to make you want to move to another country, consider that maybe the prudent thing to do would be to stay here, form a resistance… [CENSORED]

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**Author:** ![RevCo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9fc348/32.png) [@RevCo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RevCo)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-jeb-bush-were-elected-potus-in-2008-how-many-would-consider-moving-to-canada/285481/32 "2005-01-20T00:40:18Z")

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> [@CynicalGabe](#):
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> No, I’m _considering_ moving north now, a PrezJeb would make it definite.

I’d like to believe you, but almost everyone on the left has echoed the same words - it doesn’t have any meaning! People say they are going to move, but nobody is moving.

Deep down, people know that even the worst form of capitalism under Bush is wayyyyy better than, what is it over in Canada? Canadianism or whatever. You don’t know what you’ll get up there, and by the time you move, it’s too late!

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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-jeb-bush-were-elected-potus-in-2008-how-many-would-consider-moving-to-canada/285481/33 "2005-01-20T00:50:06Z")

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If I haven’t moved because of the dimwit, Jeb surely isn’t going to make me pack my suitcase.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-jeb-bush-were-elected-potus-in-2008-how-many-would-consider-moving-to-canada/285481/34 "2005-01-20T01:00:38Z")

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> [@kniz](#):
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> There is a reason so few people live is so much space. There must be something you’re not telling us.

There is. Most of the country is in the icy grip of the terrible Frost Demons.

Or maybe it’s the frosty grip of the terrible Ice Demons. I didn’t really pay much attention in Geography class.

I was sorely tempted right after the last election, but I got over it. Things would have to get a lot worse; worse than I think they realistically can get. Basically, so long as they aren’t going to shoot me for trying to leave, I’m content to stay.

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**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-jeb-bush-were-elected-potus-in-2008-how-many-would-consider-moving-to-canada/285481/35 "2005-01-20T01:46:29Z")

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> [@Ranchoth](#):
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> I wouldn’t move, but I’d seriously consider trying to start up a new, true-Centrist political party. (Our motto: “Make Love AND War.”) Y’know, give people who didn’t want to vote for Republicans a choice besides voting for Democrats. (And vice-versa)
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> Ranchoth  
> (“Vote Ranchoth in 2012…He’ll let you buy guns AND porno.”)

I, for one, welcome our new gun weilding porno overlords!

If Canada wasn’t so damned cold, I would seriously consider it, if for no other reason than Canadian women are hot! (Still have back problems caused by some hot monkey sex I had with a Canadian gal almost ten years ago. Yeah, it was worth it. 🆒 )

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-jeb-bush-were-elected-potus-in-2008-how-many-would-consider-moving-to-canada/285481/36 "2005-01-20T05:25:53Z")

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> [@UrbanChic](#):
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> Besides, I don’t want to live in an igloo and fend off bears on my way to work at the salmon cannery.

A pic from my cousin’s front door:  
[http://my.tbaytel.net/culpeper/Go%20away%20this%20spot%20is%20taken.jpg](http://my.tbaytel.net/culpeper/Go%20away%20this%20spot%20is%20taken.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-jeb-bush-were-elected-potus-in-2008-how-many-would-consider-moving-to-canada/285481/37 "2005-01-20T12:29:02Z")

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I love Canada and all its bacon & Maple syrupy goodness. To me, Canada is the next state.

I’d move there in a heartbeat if I could find some rich, funny, witty, semi-good looking Canuck to support me (and Mr.Ujest, he wants to be a kept man) in a lifestyle that I’d like to become accoustomed too.

But Anne Murray has to GO. Look the US has Celine now, you have to jettison Anne.

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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-jeb-bush-were-elected-potus-in-2008-how-many-would-consider-moving-to-canada/285481/38 "2005-01-20T13:07:21Z")

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> [@Tuckerfan](#):
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> I, for one, welcome our new gun weilding porno overlords!
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> If Canada wasn’t so damned cold, I would seriously consider it, if for no other reason than Canadian women are hot! (Still have back problems caused by some hot monkey sex I had with a Canadian gal almost ten years ago. Yeah, it was worth it. 🆒 )

Move out west then. I used to live 200 miles south of you and had colder winters there than I have now only 300 miles south of Canada. It’s those damned Prairie and Maritime provinces (not to mention the northern territories) that you have to look out for.

I’d love to live in the shadow of Vancouver.

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-jeb-bush-were-elected-potus-in-2008-how-many-would-consider-moving-to-canada/285481/39 "2005-01-20T13:53:49Z")

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> [@DanBlather](#):
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> In Florida, felons can not vote. I assume if you can’t vote you can’t run for office. Now we just need to dig up some dirt on Jeb.

In addition to what Devil’s Grandmother said, felons who have been released from prison can also vote.

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**Author:** ![Earthworm\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f07891/32.png) [@Earthworm\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Earthworm_Jim)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-jeb-bush-were-elected-potus-in-2008-how-many-would-consider-moving-to-canada/285481/40 "2005-01-20T14:15:16Z")

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> [@Ranchoth](#):
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> Make Love AND War.  
> …  
> Vote Ranchoth in 2012…He’ll let you buy guns AND porno.

WOOHOO!! Finally, a candidate I can get behind. Let’s start making bumper stickers:

HE’S NOT THE LESSER OF TWO EVILS  
VOTE RANCHOTH IN 2012

😃

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