# If Kavanaugh gets in and Roe v. Wade is overturned, what do you think that will look like? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 9, 2018, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-kavanaugh-gets-in-and-roe-v-wade-is-overturned-what-do-you-think-that-will-look-like/821031 "2018-09-09T00:24:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Max\_Torque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Max\_Torque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_Torque)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2018, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-kavanaugh-gets-in-and-roe-v-wade-is-overturned-what-do-you-think-that-will-look-like/821031/101 "2018-09-14T16:24:30Z")
> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#): > > If Kavanaugh gets in and Roe v. Wade is overturned, what do you think that will look like? [Like this](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Gerri_Santoro_(1964).jpg#/media/File:Gerri_Santoro_(1964).jpg). Yeah, it’s a nasty and shocking picture. That’s what abortion looked like when it was illegal. That’s what’s going to happen again, thousands of times. Republicans don’t care if women die as long as they are in control. Fuck 'em all. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2018, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-kavanaugh-gets-in-and-roe-v-wade-is-overturned-what-do-you-think-that-will-look-like/821031/102 "2018-09-14T17:41:30Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > Roe Effect. > > [Extra - WSJ.com](https://web.archive.org/web/20100103140208/http://opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110006913) Note that this 2005 op-ed, completely devoid of any empirical data actually supporting this hypothesized “Roe Effect” on voter demographics, also doesn’t take into account the connections I mentioned between poverty/incarceration and not voting. And one very effective way to make lots of working-class people poorer and more incarcerated is to make it difficult for them to avoid having more children than they can afford to raise responsibly. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2018, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-kavanaugh-gets-in-and-roe-v-wade-is-overturned-what-do-you-think-that-will-look-like/821031/103 "2018-09-14T18:06:02Z")
If Kavanaugh had been able to successfully carry out his high school rape, and the girl had become pregnant, I assume that Mister and Missus Kavanaugh would have grudgingly come up with hush money plus the abortion fee in order not to jeopardize the Golden Boy’s acceptance to Yale? ---
**Author:** ![EscAlaMike](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/escalamike/32/4177_2.png) [@EscAlaMike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EscAlaMike)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2018, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-kavanaugh-gets-in-and-roe-v-wade-is-overturned-what-do-you-think-that-will-look-like/821031/104 "2018-09-14T18:37:31Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > If Kavanaugh had been able to successfully carry out his high school rape Say what? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2018, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-kavanaugh-gets-in-and-roe-v-wade-is-overturned-what-do-you-think-that-will-look-like/821031/105 "2018-09-14T18:41:40Z")
> [@EscAlaMike](#): > > Say what? 😕 > **[Brett Kavanaugh Accused Of Attempting To Sexually Assault A Woman In High School](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/brett-kavanaugh-rape_n_5b9bc8e0e4b04d32ebf7dedf)** > > The bombshell revelation comes a week before the Supreme Court nominee is set to receive a vote before the Senate Judiciary Committee. ---
**Author:** ![Translucent\_Daydream](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/translucent_daydream/32/16170_2.png) [@Translucent\_Daydream](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Translucent_Daydream)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2018, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-kavanaugh-gets-in-and-roe-v-wade-is-overturned-what-do-you-think-that-will-look-like/821031/106 "2018-09-15T01:09:53Z")
> [@Max\_Torque](#): > > [Like this](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Gerri_Santoro_(1964).jpg#/media/File:Gerri_Santoro_(1964).jpg). > > Yeah, it’s a nasty and shocking picture. That’s what abortion looked like when it was illegal. That’s what’s going to happen again, thousands of times. > > Republicans don’t care if women die as long as they are in control. Fuck 'em all. Might want to double spoiler that link Max, just saying, it’s pretty intense. I think it’s going to be more like illicit pills from China trying to do something just like the picture of Gerri Santoro. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2018, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-kavanaugh-gets-in-and-roe-v-wade-is-overturned-what-do-you-think-that-will-look-like/821031/107 "2018-09-15T01:50:23Z")
Resistance is what I expect. Even if \*Roe \*gets the shaft, not all states will fall in line. Networks will be formed. I doubt underground clinics will spring up. If they did, I expect “vigilante” groups to ferret them out. A grim prospect, to be sure. More likely finding ways for the women who need help to get where they need to go. I got a few buck for that. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2018, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-kavanaugh-gets-in-and-roe-v-wade-is-overturned-what-do-you-think-that-will-look-like/821031/108 "2018-09-15T02:31:37Z")
Some states would outlaw it. But let’s place this in context - worldwide, United States inclusive, abortion rates have been falling dramatically. In the United States in particular teen pregnancy rates have continued a long term decline (with [highest rates](https://www.hhs.gov/ash/oah/adolescent-development/reproductive-health-and-teen-pregnancy/teen-pregnancy-and-childbearing/trends/index.html) remaining in the South). > [@](#): > > The national teen pregnancy rate (number of pregnancies per 1,000 females ages 15-19) has declined almost continuously over the last quarter of the century. The teen pregnancy rate includes pregnancies that end in a live birth, as well as those that end in abortion or miscarriage (fetal loss).\* The teen pregnancy rate declined by 63 percent in less than 25 years — from 117.6 pregnancies per 1,000 females ages 15-19 in 1990 to 43.4 in 2013 (the most recent year in which data are available).4 According to recent research, this decline is due to the combination of an increased percentage of adolescents who are waiting to have sexual intercourse and the increased use of effective contraceptives by teens.4,5 > > About 77 percent of teen pregnancies are unplanned. In other words, they are unwanted or occurred “too soon,” according to a national survey of adolescents.6 In 2013, the majority of pregnancies to adolescent females ages 15-19 in the United States — an estimated 61 percent — ended in a live birth; 15 percent ended in a miscarriage; and 25 percent ended in an abortion. The rate of abortions among adolescents is the lowest since abortion was legalized in 1973 and is 76 percent lower than its peak in 1988.4 > > - The teen pregnancy rate is the sum all live births, abortions, and miscarriages (or fetal losses) per 1,000 adolescent females ages 15-19 in a given year. Education works. There would, in states in which it became outlawed, which are likely some of the states that have the highest teen pregnancy rates, be an increase in more dangerous illegal abortions. But odds are the overall decrease in unwanted unplanned pregnancies would not reverse. There are fewer for whom the removal of this right would directly impact than there used to be. Still quite a few, more who are poor than not. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-kavanaugh-gets-in-and-roe-v-wade-is-overturned-what-do-you-think-that-will-look-like/821031.md?page=5)