# If Kim Il-sung was the "Great Leader" and Kim Jong-il was the "Dear Leader" . . . **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [December 20, 2011, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-kim-il-sung-was-the-great-leader-and-kim-jong-il-was-the-dear-leader/606813 "2011-12-20T04:09:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2011, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-kim-il-sung-was-the-great-leader-and-kim-jong-il-was-the-dear-leader/606813/1 "2011-12-20T04:09:56Z")
. . . what will they call Kim Jong-un? ---
**Author:** ![Musicat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/musicat/32/20189_2.png) [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2011, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-kim-il-sung-was-the-great-leader-and-kim-jong-il-was-the-dear-leader/606813/2 "2011-12-20T04:22:36Z")
The Un-Leader? ---
**Author:** ![Duckster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duckster/32/1244_2.png) [@Duckster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duckster)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2011, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-kim-il-sung-was-the-great-leader-and-kim-jong-il-was-the-dear-leader/606813/3 "2011-12-20T04:32:05Z")
The “[Great Successor](http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/12/20/us-korea-north-idUSTRE7BI05B20111220).” ---
**Author:** ![boytyperanma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4491bb/32.png) [@boytyperanma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boytyperanma)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2011, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-kim-il-sung-was-the-great-leader-and-kim-jong-il-was-the-dear-leader/606813/4 "2011-12-20T04:32:50Z")
The Chubby Successor? He’s young his state PR needs to work hard for him. ---
**Author:** ![MsRobyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/90ced4/32.png) [@MsRobyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsRobyn)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2011, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-kim-il-sung-was-the-great-leader-and-kim-jong-il-was-the-dear-leader/606813/5 "2011-12-20T05:18:23Z")
“The Too-Soon-To-Tell Leader” ---
**Author:** ![Nametag](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nametag/32/406_2.png) [@Nametag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nametag)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2011, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-kim-il-sung-was-the-great-leader-and-kim-jong-il-was-the-dear-leader/606813/6 "2011-12-20T06:22:23Z")
Brilliant Leader. You heard it here first. ---
**Author:** ![willthekittensurvive](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/91b2a8/32.png) [@willthekittensurvive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/willthekittensurvive)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2011, 12:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-kim-il-sung-was-the-great-leader-and-kim-jong-il-was-the-dear-leader/606813/7 "2011-12-20T12:01:04Z")
Brave leader, Didn’t he kill 50 US soldiers with his barehands? ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2011, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-kim-il-sung-was-the-great-leader-and-kim-jong-il-was-the-dear-leader/606813/8 "2011-12-20T12:09:53Z")
Loss Leader ---
**Author:** ![boytyperanma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4491bb/32.png) [@boytyperanma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boytyperanma)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2011, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-kim-il-sung-was-the-great-leader-and-kim-jong-il-was-the-dear-leader/606813/9 "2011-12-20T12:11:19Z")
> [@willthekittensurvive](#): > > Brave leader, > > Didn’t he kill 50 US soldiers with his barehands? Had to earn the undeserved promotion somehow. I think trying to maneuver him as a warrior or any military connotation will likely backfire. The current generals have already been insulted enough. They’ll play on him being a moral or spiritual leader. True Leader, Kind Leader, Exalted leader. Wise leader is probably another angle they’ll avoid. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2011, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-kim-il-sung-was-the-great-leader-and-kim-jong-il-was-the-dear-leader/606813/10 "2011-12-20T12:47:45Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > **If Kim Il-sung was the “Great Leader” and Kim Jong-il was the “Dear Leader” . . .** > . . . what will they call Kim Jong-un? “Dear Great Leader” “Great Leader II, Electric Boogaloo” ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2011, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-kim-il-sung-was-the-great-leader-and-kim-jong-il-was-the-dear-leader/606813/11 "2011-12-20T12:54:47Z")
The Leaderator. ---
**Author:** ![Galanthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Galanthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Galanthus)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2011, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-kim-il-sung-was-the-great-leader-and-kim-jong-il-was-the-dear-leader/606813/12 "2011-12-20T12:54:54Z")
Please, it’s obvious. They’ll combine the two names to form “The Drear Leader”. ---
**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2011, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-kim-il-sung-was-the-great-leader-and-kim-jong-il-was-the-dear-leader/606813/13 "2011-12-20T12:54:56Z")
The Fond Leader. Because he was educated in Switzerland, and therefore he’s fond-dude. God I’m turning into my dad. ---
**Author:** ![Alka\_Seltzer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c89c15/32.png) [@Alka\_Seltzer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alka_Seltzer)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2011, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-kim-il-sung-was-the-great-leader-and-kim-jong-il-was-the-dear-leader/606813/14 "2011-12-20T13:24:48Z")
Since he was educated in Switzerland, he could be the “Cuckoo Leader”. (And yes, I know Orson Wells got it wrong and the cuckoo clock was actually invented in Germany.) ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2011, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-kim-il-sung-was-the-great-leader-and-kim-jong-il-was-the-dear-leader/606813/15 "2011-12-20T13:55:10Z")
The Weekly Leader…! (…no, huh?) ---
**Author:** ![ducati](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/cc9497/32.png) [@ducati](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ducati)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2011, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-kim-il-sung-was-the-great-leader-and-kim-jong-il-was-the-dear-leader/606813/16 "2011-12-20T14:41:43Z")
Fat Bastard ---
**Author:** ![Sailboat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sailboat/32/461_2.png) [@Sailboat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sailboat)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2011, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-kim-il-sung-was-the-great-leader-and-kim-jong-il-was-the-dear-leader/606813/17 "2011-12-20T14:54:40Z")
This week he’s the news leader. ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2011, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-kim-il-sung-was-the-great-leader-and-kim-jong-il-was-the-dear-leader/606813/18 "2011-12-20T15:14:31Z")
the Milli Leader? ---
**Author:** ![FairyChatMom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fairychatmom/32/21825_2.png) [@FairyChatMom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FairyChatMom)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2011, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-kim-il-sung-was-the-great-leader-and-kim-jong-il-was-the-dear-leader/606813/19 "2011-12-20T15:16:44Z")
When I see him, all I can think of is Mr. Sta-Puft Marshmallow Man ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2011, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-kim-il-sung-was-the-great-leader-and-kim-jong-il-was-the-dear-leader/606813/20 "2011-12-20T15:23:57Z")
Ootsie-Wootie Weader. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-kim-il-sung-was-the-great-leader-and-kim-jong-il-was-the-dear-leader/606813.md?page=2)