I’ve been on UH60s piloted by U.S. Army personnel that have landed aboard Navy vessels in the pacific. Wasn’t a carrier but I thought we were doing similar operations on the kitty hawk … not exactly your point I understand but other pilots do land aboard navy vessels.
Setting aside the bewildering variety of fighter jets, there’s ground attack aircraft, gunships, a crapload of bombers both strategic and otherwise, at least nine different kinds of cargo aircraft, two different brands of weather reconaissance, multiple varieties of passenger plane, search and rescue, training aircraft, Soviet OPFOR aircraft, a surprising number of helicopters, not to mention SIGINT and IMINT platforms, electronic warfare, airborne command-and-control, battlefield airborne communications, a bunch of satellites, at least two different types of orbiting space drones that fly for years at a time, a ridiculous number of flying gas stations required to keep all of the above in the air, and of course a dozen or so F-35s (which represent a criminal defrauding of the taxpayer that multiple administrations should face jail time for having perpetrated upon us, but won’t).
At this point in this six-year-old thread, let’s not forget zombie pilots.
A minor quibble with your statement. USAF does fly in Navy planes, including landing on carrier decks. They flew in EA-6B Prowlers and are flying in EA-18G Growlers as Electronic Warfare Officers. This started shortly after the USAF retired the EF-111A’s.
Probably stating the obvious, but the USN also flies a wide variety of aricraft, especially if we include the models that cannot land on carriers.
Who cares if it’s a zombie? People seem to be enjoying the read. I am at least.
Not to go off on a tangent, but I don’t think this is correct either.
The reason that Navy is flying Growlers at all is because the Air Force was getting out of the EW business with the retirement of the EF-111A and the Prowlers are getting long in the tooth . And the reason the Marine Corps is being forced into the EA business is because the Navy wants out of it and someone has to do it.
I don’t know on anyone who has seen the Air Force fly either aircraft, and I’d like to see a cite for that. And even if they were, I’d be very surprised if they were carrier qualified. There has been talk of it, but it’s never come to fruition, as far as I know. Hell, even the Navy Reserve was given some Growlers with additional funding from OSD which will tell you how bad the other services are trying to get out of EW.
Now if you are talking just backseaters, well, heck, my 90 year old mother could fly in the back seat of a Prowler. By that logic the lobsters we’d fly home to the carrier would count too.
Either way my point remains. While there may be some Air Force Officers on a one tour swap with the Navy who land on carriers, with very, very minor exceptions, only Naval aircraft and Naval pilots land on carriers (fixed wing, of course).
That does make sense. It would be a very rare kind of deal and yeah they fly navy spec airframes to be sure. I’m not shocked it’s happened but it’s an oddity when it does happen.
Lets be clear here: AF pilots did not “Fly” Navy jets, but WSOs did “Fly in” EW aircraft, just as there were navy personnel that few aboard AF AWACS in all the Gulf wars. As you may know, while ALL 2 seat AF fighters have dual controls for the back-seater, Navy fighters do not, so a back-seater could not fly a Navy jet. As far as I know, no AF pilot flew and landed a Navy jet on a carrier…unless they transferred to the Navy, which again I never heard of. So I agree with all who said AF pilots do not fly & land Navy jets on carriers
I do believe the AF is/was considering the EA-18s as a replacement for the old EF-111s, so had many check flights and this still may be ongoing. And to my knowledge, the AF is NOT getting out of the EW business, they are just considering different aircraft options.
I know a guy who was a Air Force fighter pilot. When I told him I used to be stationed on a carrier his response was something like “screw that.” He said he had a hell of a lot of respect for Navy pilots. The idea of landing on a pitching and yawing and moving target was a hell of a thing. He explained that landing on a nice big strip of concrete with a fixed frame of reference ahead of you is so much easier. Landing on a carrier looking ahead all you see is water, you are landing on the faith and say so of the landing officer. (I think that’s the term)
He said of course as an arrogent pilot (is there any other kind?) that he could have learned to do it but wasn’t going to happen.
All this inter service talk reminds me of an old joke.
The Navy shells the beach and lands the
Marines who take the beach, then the
Army takes over and builds barracks for the
Air Force who lives there.