# If Obama is assassinated, the right's use of "messiah" will be directly responsible **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [November 12, 2008, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-obama-is-assassinated-the-rights-use-of-messiah-will-be-directly-responsible/472382 "2008-11-12T18:05:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2008, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-obama-is-assassinated-the-rights-use-of-messiah-will-be-directly-responsible/472382/61 "2008-11-13T00:23:14Z")
Farrakhan called Obama a “Herald of the Messiah,” not the Messiah himself, but it’s all moot since Farrakhan is not part of the left. ---
**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2008, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-obama-is-assassinated-the-rights-use-of-messiah-will-be-directly-responsible/472382/62 "2008-11-13T00:49:53Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > The right wing’s “Messiah” meme is not based on any genuine description of how Obama is perceived by the left (the accusations that Obama supporters hold any irrational adoration of him is completely made up), but is a coded appeal to the prevalent and _quite_ genuine belief among many religious righties that Obama is literally the Antichrist. No, it’s sarcasm directed at him ever since he started to refer to himself as “The One” who’ll do all the crap he said he’d be the one to do. Jesus, the Messiah, was The One --tiny logical leap of sarcasm–\>Obama, the self-proclaimed One, must also be the Messiah. But imagine for a second that your largely imaginary people who literally think he’s the antichrist are right: Obama will be the best president ever! Before everything goes to hell, the Antichrist is supposed to preform all sorts of miracles. The war will be over and the economy healthy again by Easter. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2008, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-obama-is-assassinated-the-rights-use-of-messiah-will-be-directly-responsible/472382/63 "2008-11-13T01:02:32Z")
> [@elfkin477](#): > > No, it’s sarcasm directed at him ever since he started to refer to himself as “The One” who’ll do all the crap he said he’d be the one to do. Jesus, the Messiah, was The One --tiny logical leap of sarcasm–\>Obama, the self-proclaimed One, must also be the Messiah. Obama has never once referred to himself as “the One.” You are misinformed, and you’re making my point. The allegations that Obama has made grandiose claims about himself or that his supporters hold such beliefs are utter, right wing mythology designed to spook morons into think he’s the Antichrist. > [@](#): > > But imagine for a second that your largely imaginary people who literally think he’s the antichrist are right They’re not imaginary at all. google “Obama antichrist.” > [@](#): > > Obama will be the best president ever! Before everything goes to hell, the Antichrist is supposed to preform all sorts of miracles. The war will be over and the economy healthy again by Easter. The Antichrist isn’t “supposed” to do anything. That character, as conceived of in popular culture, does not actually exist in the Bible, so there aren’t any actual Prophecies about him except whatever people want to make up. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2008, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-obama-is-assassinated-the-rights-use-of-messiah-will-be-directly-responsible/472382/64 "2008-11-13T01:05:56Z")
The only people I’ve heard refer to Obama as a messiah use it in a derogatory manner to ineptly mock those who were smart enough to not support McCain. As for me, come see me when he takes the Water of Life and rides Shai Hulud into Arrakeen. That’s when I’ll sign up. I don’t see how anyone can reason out what would make someone assassinate Obama or do any other crazy thing, because the guy doing it would be crazy. Maybe it would be done because the yellow voices in his head won the argument with the green voices in his head. Did anyone say ‘If someone attempts to assassinate Reagan it will be out of a need to impress Jodie Foster’? ---
**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2008, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-obama-is-assassinated-the-rights-use-of-messiah-will-be-directly-responsible/472382/65 "2008-11-13T04:07:28Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > The Antichrist isn’t “supposed” to do anything. That character, as conceived of in popular culture, does not actually exist in the Bible, so there aren’t any actual Prophecies about him except whatever people want to make up. The character in we know in popular culture does exist in the bible, but isn’t called The Antichrist. Instead, in the bible s/he is refered to as the false prophet of “The Beast.” Though, ftr, I’ve read claims that the beast is the antichrist instead. It doesn’t really matter which is which, because the bible says they’ll both do miracles anyway. Revelation 16:13 “And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.” 16:14 “For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.” Revelation 19:20 says that this false prophet specifically does miracles. “And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.” ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2008, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-obama-is-assassinated-the-rights-use-of-messiah-will-be-directly-responsible/472382/66 "2008-11-13T04:16:01Z")
> [@elfkin477](#): > > The character in we know in popular culture does exist in the bible No it doesn’t. > [@](#): > > , but isn’t called The Antichrist. Instead, in the bible s/he is refered to as the false prophet of “The Beast.” Though, ftr, I’ve read claims that the beast is the antichrist instead. It doesn’t really matter which is which, because the bible says they’ll both do miracles anyway. No it doesn’t. “Antichrists”, plural, are not supernatural figures, but merely refer to competing, “apostate” Christian sects in the late 1st/early 2nd Centuries (i.e. the Gnostics). The term is used only in the Epistles of John, and has nothing to do with the Beast of Revelation, and they don’t do miracles/ They’re just represented as false teachers.. The “Beast” in Revelation was a coded reference to the Roman Emperor, not a prediction of a futuristic supervillain. That character does not exist in the Bible, period. Nothing in Revelation is suppose to be a prophecy of our future. It’s all about late 1st Century Rome. ---
**Author:** ![KGS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/90ced4/32.png) [@KGS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KGS)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2008, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-obama-is-assassinated-the-rights-use-of-messiah-will-be-directly-responsible/472382/67 "2008-11-13T05:47:54Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > The “Beast” in Revelation was a coded reference to the Roman Emperor, not a prediction of a futuristic supervillain. Isn’t anyone going to comment on my dissertation? ☹ Biblical Prophecy is whatever the reader wants it to be – that’s how the Christian Mind works. The “Beast” has commonly been interpreted as the EEC (ref: _The Late Great Planet Earth_ by Hal Lindsey), or the EU, or (perhaps) whatever the G20 Summit comes up with. Don’t assume these fundie whackjobs are capable of reasoned, historical interpretation – they will quote verses out of context, connect unrelated passages together, and you must believe & obey because it is all THE LIVING WORD OF GOD!!! Seriously, there is no logic or individual thought allowed amongst these people. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2008, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-obama-is-assassinated-the-rights-use-of-messiah-will-be-directly-responsible/472382/68 "2008-11-13T12:16:37Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > > [@Shodan](#): > > > > Farrakhan is on record saying that when Obama speaks, “absolutely the Messiah is speaking”. > > ]No, he isn’t. Yes, he is. > [@](#): > > Re-read what he actually said: I did. He said > [@](#): > > “When the Messiah speaks, the young people will hear, and the Messiah is absolutely speaking.” He. Said. The. Messiah. Is. Absolutely. Speaking. When. Obama. Speaks. That’s what he said. > [@](#): > > Not a word there about **Obama himself** being “the Messiah who is speaking”. Simply and unambiguously false. Farrakhan said that when Obama speaks, “the Messiah is absolutely speaking”. > [@](#): > > It’s like saying, for example, “we are seeing the hand of God in the success of Obama’s campaign”. Nobody with any sense would think that such a phrase was meant to imply that Obama himself is actually God. Horseshit. If I said that “when Obama speaks, God is absolutely speaking”, then I would be saying that Obama is God. This is just [blackwhite](http://chrisabraham.com/2007/03/09/george-orwwells-1984-newspeak-dictionary/). ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2008, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-obama-is-assassinated-the-rights-use-of-messiah-will-be-directly-responsible/472382/69 "2008-11-13T12:55:50Z")
If Obama is described as the herald of the messiah, it’s clear he’s not the messiah himself. If somebody is a herald, he’s not also the person being heralded. Isn’t that right there in the definition? At most, I’m very unconventionally religious, but I’m familiar enough with the idea of “God speaking through someone” to know that it doesn’t mean the speaker is God or even a messianic figure. At most it means they’re holy, or at least that they are expressing a righteous sentiment. These are all ridiculous and grandiose claims, and mocking them is fair game even if attributing them to all Obama supporters isn’t. But “he’s a herald” and “he’s the messiah” are not the same statement. ---
**Author:** ![Syntropy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/65b543/32.png) [@Syntropy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Syntropy)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2008, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-obama-is-assassinated-the-rights-use-of-messiah-will-be-directly-responsible/472382/70 "2008-11-13T13:44:34Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > **These are all ridiculous and grandiose claims,** and mocking them is fair game even if attributing them to all Obama supporters isn’t. But “he’s a herald” and “he’s the messiah” are not the same statement. THANK you. Here is what I am seeing, and it isn’t religious in nature at all: Those on the left that _I_ have seen referring to Obama as “the messiah” are doing so partly out of relief and partly out of self deprecation. To put it mildly, the Democratic party is disorganized. Every faction of the Dem party has its own pet project and they all think theirs is more important than that of any other faction. It took someone of nigh-messianic quality to unite them. It became increasingly evident to even lukewarm cynical voters like myself that he’s capable of getting those warring factions to put aside their differences and work toward a common goal. Those on the right that I have seen referring to Obama as “the messiah” were doing so partly out of derision and partly out of fear for more or less the same reasons as above. A disunited Dem party is what Republicans count on to win elections. The fewer disenfranchised angry Dems showing up at the polls, the better. elfkin477, that whole “The One” thing that you’re referring to: Obama never referred to himself as “The One.” He explained that his name meant “That one” in Swahili. I can understand how it was corrupted into “He called himself THE ONE OMG!!!1!” by more reactionary members of the Christian right, however. It was just the out of context sign they needed to work themselves into a frenzy. That so many people are not aware of it or misinterpreted what was said also explains why John McCain’s now famous reference to “That one” in the presidential debate fell flat. No one got that he was calling Obama by name while at the same time attempting a rather lame joke. As for Farrakhan, I don’t take him seriously and I’m surprised anyone here is actually quoting him as if his words matter a tinker’s damn to either the right or the left. Who cares what the man said? Proponents from both sides have written him off as an opportunistic loud mouthed ass for as long as I can remember. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2008, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-obama-is-assassinated-the-rights-use-of-messiah-will-be-directly-responsible/472382/71 "2008-11-13T14:36:49Z")
When he said Barack means “That One” in Swahili, he was joking. It was said in _response_ to McCain calling him “that one” in a debate. It doesn’t really mean that. Barack is actually a variation on the Hebrew name Baruch and means “Blessed.” “The One” orignated with Oprah Winfrey who once excited exclaimed that Obama was “the one” to fulfil MLK’s dream. The phrase was then adopted sarcastically by John McCain and used in a campaign ad (an ad which contained allusions to the _Left Behind_ books and surreptitiously played to the “Antichrist” meme). Obama himself has never used it or even come close to that kind of rhetoric. The idea that he has personally expressed any such granndiose beliefs or sold himself as a transcendent figure exists only in the imaginations of his political opponents. ---
**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2008, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-obama-is-assassinated-the-rights-use-of-messiah-will-be-directly-responsible/472382/72 "2008-11-13T14:49:56Z")
> [@Syntropy](#): > > As for Farrakhan, I don’t take him seriously and I’m surprised anyone here is actually quoting him as if his words matter a tinker’s damn to either the right or the left. Who cares what the man said? Proponents from both sides have written him off as an opportunistic loud mouthed ass for as long as I can remember. - “Farrakhan’s a prophet and I think you ought to listen to, what he can say to you, what you ought to do.”\* **Chuck D.** Hey, I ain’t gonna argue with him! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2008, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-obama-is-assassinated-the-rights-use-of-messiah-will-be-directly-responsible/472382/73 "2008-11-13T15:10:01Z")
Atlanta has a weekly rag called _The Sunday Paper_. It is a sort of right-leaning competitor to _Creative Loafing_. There was an interesting editorial this week by (conservative) Editor in Chief Kevin Forest Moreau: [Between Partisanship and Paranoia](http://www.sundaypaper.com/More/Archives/tabid/98/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/3290/Between-partisanship-and-paranoia.aspx), which thoughtfully addresses the over-the-top rage and fear stirred up by radio idiots: > [@](#): > > A few minutes after midnight last Wednesday, with President-elect Barack Obama’s victory speech still ringing in the nation’s ears, I received an e-mail from a friend (I’ll call him Chad), sent to everyone in his address book. Here’s the text of that message: > > > [@](#): > > > > Well, America has voted like they were watching ‘American Idol,’ and actually elected our very first Marxist president. I am horrified at the potential loss of freedom, frightened at how high my taxes are going to go, worried about (as Obama put it) my electricity bill ‘skyrocketing’ under his energy plan. > > > > For any of you reading this that voted for the Socialist, I hope you’re happy. You’re gonna get the change you so foolishly hoped for. Just like the Cubans got ‘change’ in 1960. Just like the Germans got ‘change’ in the 1930s. I hope Obama’s promised ‘Civilian National Security Force’ treats you mercifully. > > > > I am disgusted with the people of this country right now. They have allowed themselves to be led down the primrose path by an extremely biased media and a smooth-talking, racist, Marxist radical > > > > In my opinion, if you voted for that charlatan, the blood of the potential demise of our country is on your hands. Sleep well, comrades. Sleep well. > > …I’ve known Chad for more than 20 years, and I honestly don’t believe him to be a racist. He’s smart, well-informed, a respected professional with a broad range of interests and a generous heart… > > …This otherwise reasonable, agreeable, funny and deeply likeable guy’s genuine beliefs and doubts have been fanned into roaring flames of distrust and obsession by right-wing radio blowhards and glib TV pundits for whom “fair and balanced” is just a crafty euphemism for the fears and biases they skillfully exploit in the name of ratings and personal glory… I recommend reading the whole piece. It’s a good thinking conservative’s look at the problem. ---
**Author:** ![Syntropy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/65b543/32.png) [@Syntropy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Syntropy)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2008, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-obama-is-assassinated-the-rights-use-of-messiah-will-be-directly-responsible/472382/74 "2008-11-13T15:27:45Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > When he said Barack means “That One” in Swahili, he was joking. It was said in _response_ to McCain calling him “that one” in a debate. It doesn’t really mean that. Barack is actually a variation on the Hebrew name Baruch and means “Blessed.” > > “The One” orignated with Oprah Winfrey who once excited exclaimed that Obama was “the one” to fulfil MLK’s dream. The phrase was then adopted sarcastically by John McCain and used in a campaign ad (an ad which contained allusions to the _Left Behind_ books and surreptitiously played to the “Antichrist” meme). > > Obama himself has never used it or even come close to that kind of rhetoric. The idea that he has personally expressed any such granndiose beliefs or sold himself as a transcendent figure exists only in the imaginations of his political opponents. Which makes my reaction every bit as ridiculous as those who took it seriously and ran with it. 😛 I may be overlooking something here but I don’t understand what difference it makes if people on the fringes of either side are calling him the messiah. It would make a difference if he acted as though he believed it. From what I can tell he does not. He acts like a leader. That isn’t arrogance; he is our leader. > [@ivan astikov](#): > > “Farrakhan’s a prophet and I think you ought to listen to, what he can say to you, what you ought to do.” Chuck D. > > Hey, I ain’t gonna argue with him! 🙂 Well, all respect to Chuck D, just because Louis Farrakhan takes himself seriously and has convinced others to do so is not enough to convince me to do the same. I’m disinclined to do more than give polite acknowledgement to someone who judges me as a blight on this earth merely because of my religion or lack thereof. Farrakhan sees President Obama as a thing, and worse yet a thing to be exploited. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2008, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-obama-is-assassinated-the-rights-use-of-messiah-will-be-directly-responsible/472382/75 "2008-11-13T15:33:17Z")
> [@Syntropy](#): > > I may be overlooking something here but I don’t understand what difference it makes if people on the fringes of either side are calling him the messiah. A lot of leftists said that there was an irrational religious fervor for Bush on the right, and this is the same thing going in the other direction. It was true in many cases with Bush; when I had the misfortune to see _Jesus Camp_ last week, it provided a good example. And there are absolutely people on the SDMB and elsewhere who have an irrational passion for Obama. I think most of us knew that without asking for any cites. What it means about Obama support overall is the question. More than 66 million people voted for him last week, and if 1 percent of them saw him as any kind of savior that would be a small portion but still a large number. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2008, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-obama-is-assassinated-the-rights-use-of-messiah-will-be-directly-responsible/472382/76 "2008-11-13T16:10:22Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > He. Said. The. Messiah. Is. Absolutely. Speaking. When. Obama. Speaks. That’s what he said. Cite? I quoted what Farrakhan **actually said** , which is different from your interpretation of it above. Show me where he **actually said** “The Messiah is absolutely speaking when Obama speaks”. He also **actually said** that Obama is NOT the Messiah. So I don’t know why you’re continuing to try to insist that he said that Obama IS the Messiah. Just admit that you made a mistake, and move on. That’s what I did when **tom** pointed out that I’d violated the forum rules about trolling accusations. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2008, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-obama-is-assassinated-the-rights-use-of-messiah-will-be-directly-responsible/472382/77 "2008-11-13T16:22:38Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Barack is actually a variation on the Hebrew name Baruch and means “Blessed.” I know, I’m nitpicking, but technically, “Barack” and “Baruch” are cognates, with “Barack” being the Arabic name and “Baruch” being the Hebrew name. But they’re not variations of the same name in the same language. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2008, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-obama-is-assassinated-the-rights-use-of-messiah-will-be-directly-responsible/472382/78 "2008-11-13T17:13:22Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > It’s like saying, for example, “we are seeing the hand of God in the success of Obama’s campaign”. Nobody with any sense would think that such a phrase was meant to imply that Obama himself is actually God. But he has _hands_. Hands! It’s obvious what he’s trying to say. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2008, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-obama-is-assassinated-the-rights-use-of-messiah-will-be-directly-responsible/472382/79 "2008-11-13T17:47:42Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > But he has _hands_. Hands! It’s obvious what he’s trying to say. He’s got the whole world in his hands? ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2008, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-obama-is-assassinated-the-rights-use-of-messiah-will-be-directly-responsible/472382/80 "2008-11-13T17:52:01Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > I realize it’s seldom a useful debate rebuttal… > > … but your argument is crazy. > > No, merely sarcastically calling Obama “Messiah” cannot be “directly responsible” for a successful assassination attempt. Yes, of _course_ it can.:rolleyes: See “the messiah” is a code word that will trigger the deep mole assassin.😛 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-obama-is-assassinated-the-rights-use-of-messiah-will-be-directly-responsible/472382.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-obama-is-assassinated-the-rights-use-of-messiah-will-be-directly-responsible/472382.md?page=5)