# If Obama is Re-elected, who will be the Democratic nominee in 2016?

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [November 5, 2012, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-obama-is-re-elected-who-will-be-the-democratic-nominee-in-2016/639997 "2012-11-05T20:02:26Z")\
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**Author:** ![ladyfoxfyre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@ladyfoxfyre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ladyfoxfyre)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2012, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-obama-is-re-elected-who-will-be-the-democratic-nominee-in-2016/639997/61 "2012-11-06T15:31:01Z")

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Eric Cantor is a whiney little shit. I can’t imagine him advancing politically beyond where he is now.  
Rubio was a strong contendor for Romney’s VP, so I could see him possibly running for Governor after his Senate term is up.

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**Author:** ![babygoat666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/2acd7d/32.png) [@babygoat666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/babygoat666)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2012, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-obama-is-re-elected-who-will-be-the-democratic-nominee-in-2016/639997/62 "2012-11-06T16:33:19Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> What, the socialist?! :eek:

I think he means the host of the Daily Show. There is a socialist named Jon Stewart?

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**Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-obama-is-re-elected-who-will-be-the-democratic-nominee-in-2016/639997/63 "2012-11-07T16:55:29Z")

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> [@babygoat666](#):
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> I think he means the host of the Daily Show. There is a socialist named Jon Stewart?

Jon Stewart claimed that everyone in the US supported democratic socialism in his recent debate with the stalwart Bill O’Reilly. It should be immediately apparent to all thinking Americans (the 53%), especially after a year of the least experienced president ever, that the ideal political system encompasses neither.

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**Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-obama-is-re-elected-who-will-be-the-democratic-nominee-in-2016/639997/64 "2012-11-07T20:27:07Z")

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In other words, you’re butt-hurt because Romney lost.

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**Post date:** [November 11, 2012, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-obama-is-re-elected-who-will-be-the-democratic-nominee-in-2016/639997/65 "2012-11-11T19:16:43Z")

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> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#):
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> A bigger city? San Antonio is like the what, _does quick check_ SEVENTH largest city in the US. He’s as well positioned as he can be in his home state. He ain’t gonna become a Senator or Governor in Texas. Not with that big ‘D’ next to his name. So Castro can at least think hard about it. Maybe pull for a cabinet post or something to raise his profile.
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> But again, I’m warned by all the support Mark Warner is getting. He might be running second to Hilary in this thread.

Ouch, San Antonio just seems tiny when you visit it in comparison to DFW, I never think about the fact that S.A. is all one city. But to totally nitpick, he could be the mayor of Houston, and be better positioned :). Even though my ignorance is now fought on that front, Governor seems like it’d be pretty open if Perry is fool enough to run next time, which he’s indicated he will do. Senator would be more of a long shot, but I think that it could be done, especially with Texas’ large hispanic population. The senate is not as good of a stepping stone to the Presidency as the Governor’s mansion is, though. So, I think he’d be smart to try for Governor.

And not to sound like one of those “The President has never been re-elected while X” people, but no one has gone directly form Mayor of anything to POTUS. I’m not saying it can’t be done, but if he can’t get elected governor of TX, he probably doesn’t have the chops to win the Electoral College.

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**Post date:** [November 11, 2012, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-obama-is-re-elected-who-will-be-the-democratic-nominee-in-2016/639997/66 "2012-11-11T19:35:21Z")

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> [@Fotheringay-Phipps](#):
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> Surprised no one mentioned Marc Rubio on the Republican side. Also Eric Cantor.

The [SOPA](http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9223496/Protests_against_SOPA_PIPA_go_viralhttp://)guys? Yes, I’m surprised someone mentioned them.

Both of them were promoters of the law but did go against it only after many protested that bone headed law.

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**Post date:** [November 11, 2012, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-obama-is-re-elected-who-will-be-the-democratic-nominee-in-2016/639997/67 "2012-11-11T19:47:22Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> It’ll be some Dem governor like Cuomo.
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> And in 2020 or 2024 it’ll be Gavin Newsom. You heard that here first! 🙂

Yeah, that’s what people here (SF) have been saying. Not that specific couple of elections, but that he’s on track for Big Politics. I don’t buy it. I like much of his politics, but I trust him as much as I trust Romney. I’d trust him in certain situations, but I wouldn’t trust him with a bag of money.

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**Post date:** [November 11, 2012, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-obama-is-re-elected-who-will-be-the-democratic-nominee-in-2016/639997/68 "2012-11-11T19:54:59Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> And in 2020 or 2024 it’ll be Gavin Newsom. You heard that here first! 🙂

> [@Roderick\_Femm](#):
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> I just threw up in my mouth a little.
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> No, I don’t think so. … If he can … **find a different hair product** , then maybe, just maybe, he might have a run for it.

This is key. He looks like a car salesman.

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**Post date:** [November 11, 2012, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-obama-is-re-elected-who-will-be-the-democratic-nominee-in-2016/639997/69 "2012-11-11T23:28:09Z")

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Re Gavin Newsom:

> [@That\_Don\_Guy](#):
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> …Besides, you have to take into account the fact that people who would otherwise drink the Democratic party Kool-Aid would hesitate to vote for someone who, almost certainly, would do everything in his power to “legalize” gay marriage pretty much immediately after he took the oath of office…

I don’t understand this. Wouldn’t most Democratic voters be fine with the idea of legalizing gay marriage in this country? Why do you have “legalize” in quotation marks?

Rachel Maddow said something once about how you don’t vote on people’s civil rights. You just recognize them in law and get on with your lives. So this “let the states decide individually” stuff isn’t right.

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**Post date:** [November 11, 2012, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-obama-is-re-elected-who-will-be-the-democratic-nominee-in-2016/639997/70 "2012-11-11T23:56:53Z")

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Cuomo’s a possibility…but he comes with baggage. Sandra Lee would be the First Lady.

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**Post date:** [November 12, 2012, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-obama-is-re-elected-who-will-be-the-democratic-nominee-in-2016/639997/71 "2012-11-12T04:02:05Z")

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Hillary won’t be older than Ronald Reagan was so it’s not unprecedented. Currently she is very popular in the American electorate. The Clinton’s are pretty much their own brand at this point. She needs to step down from State and get some rest and I think it’ll be hard for her to pass it up with all the support she’s going to have.

In 2020/2024, if he wins the race for governor in 2014, Ed Fitzgerald from the bellweather state of Ohio will be wooed for a Democratic nomination.

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**Post date:** [November 12, 2012, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-obama-is-re-elected-who-will-be-the-democratic-nominee-in-2016/639997/72 "2012-11-12T23:24:44Z")

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> [@Smellyalater](#):
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> Currently she is very popular in the American electorate. The Clinton’s are pretty much their own brand at this point.

I thought lots of folks hated her, presumably because of Bill’s infidelity.

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**Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-obama-is-re-elected-who-will-be-the-democratic-nominee-in-2016/639997/73 "2012-11-13T00:03:01Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> I thought lots of folks hated her, presumably because of Bill’s infidelity.

Funny how that works . . .

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**Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-obama-is-re-elected-who-will-be-the-democratic-nominee-in-2016/639997/74 "2012-11-13T00:04:14Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> I thought lots of folks hated her, presumably because of Bill’s infidelity.

Lots of folks do hate her, but many of them are the same folks who would hate any Democratic nominee anyway.

There are some who probably hate her more than they’d hate the average white male Protestant centrist Democrat, but her name recognition and existing support may be enough to balance that out.

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**Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-obama-is-re-elected-who-will-be-the-democratic-nominee-in-2016/639997/75 "2012-11-13T00:17:14Z")

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My money’s on John Kerry.

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**Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-obama-is-re-elected-who-will-be-the-democratic-nominee-in-2016/639997/76 "2012-11-13T00:24:09Z")

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What about Al Franken?

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**Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-obama-is-re-elected-who-will-be-the-democratic-nominee-in-2016/639997/77 "2012-11-13T00:52:57Z")

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> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#):
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> What about Al Franken?

A Jew at the top of the ticket?! Well, it’s not as shocking as a Mormon . . .

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**Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-obama-is-re-elected-who-will-be-the-democratic-nominee-in-2016/639997/78 "2012-11-13T00:56:39Z")

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Are we assuming that the President for Life Amendment has not yet been passed by 2015?

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**Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-obama-is-re-elected-who-will-be-the-democratic-nominee-in-2016/639997/79 "2012-11-13T01:39:10Z")

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> [@IceQube](#):
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> My money’s on John Kerry.

[Who might be the next Secretary of Defense, BTW.](http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/obama-considers-john-kerry-for-job-of-defense-secretary/2012/11/12/8a0e973a-2d02-11e2-a99d-5c4203af7b7a_story.html)

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**Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-obama-is-re-elected-who-will-be-the-democratic-nominee-in-2016/639997/80 "2012-11-13T02:13:40Z")

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> [@hrhomer](#):
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> Yeah, that’s what people here (SF) have been saying. Not that specific couple of elections, but that he’s on track for Big Politics. I don’t buy it. I like much of his politics, but I trust him as much as I trust Romney. I’d trust him in certain situations, but I wouldn’t trust him with a bag of money.

Gavin Newsom is one of the few names that might cause me to rethink voting for the Democrat for President. I truly admire his position and courage with regard to gay marriage, but he has substance abuse issues and sex scandal issues that make him unsuitable for the job.

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