# If one race is faster, more athletic, stronger in sports - what's bad?

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**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [February 22, 2016, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-one-race-is-faster-more-athletic-stronger-in-sports-whats-bad/746836 "2016-02-22T21:35:19Z")\
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**Author:** ![Belowjob2.0](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Belowjob2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Belowjob2.0)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2016, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-one-race-is-faster-more-athletic-stronger-in-sports-whats-bad/746836/381 "2016-03-22T19:47:20Z")

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> [@Mijin](#):
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> It is?  
> I’m not going to defend that article, which sounds like absolute nonsense, but there’s no need to make over the top blanket statements.

Over the top, blanket statements are pretty much CP’s whole argument. The point of the articles I linked is that these broad generalizations are dead, dead, dead.

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**Author:** ![Chief\_Pedant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@Chief\_Pedant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chief_Pedant)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2016, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-one-race-is-faster-more-athletic-stronger-in-sports-whats-bad/746836/382 "2016-03-25T02:17:41Z")

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> [@Belowjob2.0](#):
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> Over the top, blanket statements are pretty much CP’s whole argument.

I am openminded. 🙂

Feel free to list out the civilizations where blacks, whites and asians have had results where the rank orders for the skillset outcomes we observed are at odds with what I have been saying genes drive.

You got a good example of whites kicking black counterpart ass at power sprinting, basketball or football, or some sort of historic equivalent?

You got a good example of blacks kicking asian counterpart ass at STEM pursuits when both are in the same political milieu?

Educate me…in which country or civilization, modern or historic, is it obvious that the general rank order for these skillsets is reversed?

Whatcha got?

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2016, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-one-race-is-faster-more-athletic-stronger-in-sports-whats-bad/746836/383 "2016-03-25T03:44:18Z")

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> [@Chief\_Pedant](#):
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> I am openminded. 🙂
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> Feel free to list out the civilizations where blacks, whites and asians have had results where the rank orders for the skillset outcomes we observed are at odds with what I have been saying genes drive.
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> You got a good example of whites kicking black counterpart ass at power sprinting, basketball or football, or some sort of historic equivalent?
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> You got a good example of blacks kicking asian counterpart ass at STEM pursuits when both are in the same political milieu?
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> Educate me…in which country or civilization, modern or historic, is it obvious that the general rank order for these skillsets is reversed?
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> Whatcha got?

How about the ancient Haya of Tanzania, who invented carbon steel long before Europeans or Asians? Not that such measures tell us anything about genetics when society has so profoundly unequal through history.

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**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2016, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-one-race-is-faster-more-athletic-stronger-in-sports-whats-bad/746836/384 "2016-03-25T04:32:54Z")

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Well since you mention asian as a race, right now there is quite a mix of wealthy and squalid asian countries, and pretty much any level of performance on standardized tests, scientific papers published, patents etc that you could care to find, with _of course_ overlap with some SS african countries.

Presumably the _true_ [del]scotsman[/del] asian country is one that’s performing well, eh?

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