# If our fallout with Mexico causes a disruption in the avocado/guacamole supply...

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**Created:** [January 27, 2017, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-our-fallout-with-mexico-causes-a-disruption-in-the-avocado-guacamole-supply/778340 "2017-01-27T20:37:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2017, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-our-fallout-with-mexico-causes-a-disruption-in-the-avocado-guacamole-supply/778340/41 "2017-01-28T06:00:54Z")

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> [@drad\_dog](#):
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> The Texans, including very possibly trump voters, are freaking out about a trade war with mexico because of the interdependence of Texas and Mexico’s economies. Did anyone ever consider the Texas economy before they voted for this fool, even inside fucking Texas?

This is a bothersome issue, because the entire Texas/Mexico border is the Rio. The general rule of fences is that you build it on your own property, which means the Wall would end up between the Texans and the Rio. Apart from the Wall itself being a stunningly offensive concept, blocking off the Rio from Texas sounds like the pinnacle of stupid.

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**Author:** ![WolfpackJeep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpackjeep/32/2921_2.png) [@WolfpackJeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WolfpackJeep)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2017, 11:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-our-fallout-with-mexico-causes-a-disruption-in-the-avocado-guacamole-supply/778340/42 "2017-01-28T11:00:24Z")

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> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#):
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> It ain’t just the avocados. Mexico sends us a large percentage of all fresh fruits and vegetables sold in U.S. groceries. Expect prices to rocket skyward.
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> Trump don’t give a shit. Trump eats only McDonald’s and KFC.

True…in particular, I see lots of tomatoes and cucumbers in the store that originated in Mexico. Once real tomato season gets here, of course, the place will be flooded with local produce.

And while he loves fast food, Trump apparently doesn’t drink alcohol, which explains why he doesn’t give a rat’s ass about our tequila supply. (There are American-made agave spirits, but they can’t be called tequila for legal reasons.)

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2017, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-our-fallout-with-mexico-causes-a-disruption-in-the-avocado-guacamole-supply/778340/43 "2017-01-28T12:57:15Z")

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> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> Man, am I ever glad that I despise the taste of guacamole.

But that’s just one of many, many things you can make with avocados!

Okay, more like three things. But still.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2017, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-our-fallout-with-mexico-causes-a-disruption-in-the-avocado-guacamole-supply/778340/44 "2017-01-28T13:10:42Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> But that’s just one of many, many things you can make with avocados!
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> Okay, more like three things. But still.

[ol]  
[li]Slice of avocado on a burger[/li][li]Sardines and mashed avocado on toast[/li][li]On a salad[/li][/ol]

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2017, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-our-fallout-with-mexico-causes-a-disruption-in-the-avocado-guacamole-supply/778340/45 "2017-01-28T13:11:51Z")

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BAM!

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2017, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-our-fallout-with-mexico-causes-a-disruption-in-the-avocado-guacamole-supply/778340/46 "2017-01-28T13:56:40Z")

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> [@Snarky\_Kong](#):
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> Considering there were multiple controversies about how he didn’t each shitty food like a real 'Murican, I kinda doubt it.

Yeah, you can’t mock the Obamas for “eating arugula” like some kind of effete Frenchman and then turn around and accuse them of snarfing anus-burgers. Pick your battle.

Who “makes things” with avocado? Just squirt on some lime juice and eat it out of the rind with a spoon. Nature’s perfect food.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2017, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-our-fallout-with-mexico-causes-a-disruption-in-the-avocado-guacamole-supply/778340/47 "2017-01-28T15:46:59Z")

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> [@Encinitas](#):
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> Next thing we’ll have avocado rationing and death panels. Down with socialized guacamole!
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> I was so hoping with Hilary in the White House we’d get taco trucks on every corner. Damn!

I’m gonna march with the Tea baggers. My sign will say “Keep gubmint hands off my gwacamoly”  
Spelled wrong on purpose 😃

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2017, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-our-fallout-with-mexico-causes-a-disruption-in-the-avocado-guacamole-supply/778340/48 "2017-01-28T15:54:31Z")

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> [@Blinkyandpinky](#):
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> I am a Trump voter and if one of the consequences from removing vast numbers of illegal criminal aliens or imposing a toll on certain items from Mexico is that the price of Avocados will increase, then I am 100% ok with that. I think that I can live with that.
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> I am also ok with price increases for certain other items and services that might have benefited from illegal alien slave labor.
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> If a business can not function without illegal alien slave labor, then the business does not have any right to exist and it should rightfully go out of business. The market will naturally sort itself out. Not all businesses have the right to life.
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> That’s just plain common sense, simple economics and basic human dignity, traits which most liberals lack.

Some of that though, sounds a lot like the Evil Librul Agenda (trademark).

Libruls have said for years that businesses were exploiting laborers - in factories, and in the fields. Libruls have said for years that all workers should get a living wage, or at least get paid (sometimes they do the work and Immigration gets called in by the OWNER just before it’s time to pay them). Libruls and REALISTS have said for years that it is not government’s job to protect profits or prop up business.

WE have been saying all this for YEARS. So do NOT preach at us. You stole it from us.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2017, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-our-fallout-with-mexico-causes-a-disruption-in-the-avocado-guacamole-supply/778340/49 "2017-01-28T15:59:54Z")

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So, as an add on to my previous post, when do we start going after the crooked “business men”???

That’s where the real crime is, not with the poor schmuck who just wants to earn some pay. Also, the whole “aliens is comin’ to rape and kill us” idea that all crime is due to illegals is pure bullshit.

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2017, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-our-fallout-with-mexico-causes-a-disruption-in-the-avocado-guacamole-supply/778340/50 "2017-01-28T16:27:47Z")

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A life without aguacate’s is not worth living. Leave Mexico alone!

On a serious note, a rising Mexico is good for the US. The more happy, healthy and wealthy the country becomes, the better it is for us north of the border. I don’t think our new leader understands this. “AMERICA FIRST” doesn’t have to mean we have to take a dump on every one else.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2017, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-our-fallout-with-mexico-causes-a-disruption-in-the-avocado-guacamole-supply/778340/51 "2017-01-28T16:36:57Z")

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> [@wguy123](#):
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> A life without aguacate’s is not worth living. Leave Mexico alone!
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> On a serious note, a rising Mexico is good for the US. The more happy, healthy and wealthy the country becomes, the better it is for us north of the border. I don’t think our new leader understands this. “AMERICA FIRST” doesn’t have to mean we have to take a dump on every one else.

He is a full blown narcissist. He really means Trump first. He substituted Murrica as a means to manipulate. He HAS to be the center of all attention, no matter what the cost is to everyone else. So of course “our leader”, Mister Popular Vote Loser doesn’t understand.

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2017, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-our-fallout-with-mexico-causes-a-disruption-in-the-avocado-guacamole-supply/778340/52 "2017-01-28T18:00:49Z")

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> [@buddha\_david](#):
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> I thought they were controlled by the [Cannibal Women.](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094834/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1)

Damn, I hoped I’d get the first chance to mention that movie!

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-our-fallout-with-mexico-causes-a-disruption-in-the-avocado-guacamole-supply/778340/53 "2017-01-29T16:09:09Z")

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I am wearing [this shirt](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BGYxzcQCQAElT8T.jpg) to protest the threat to our avocado imports. :mad:

They’re pretty cool about this nonsense down at my favorite Mexican restaurant, even when I built a Wall of Condiments at the edge of our table.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-our-fallout-with-mexico-causes-a-disruption-in-the-avocado-guacamole-supply/778340/54 "2017-01-29T18:38:05Z")

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So much for Taco Trucks. ☹

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**Author:** ![Evan\_Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b487fb/32.png) [@Evan\_Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evan_Drake)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-our-fallout-with-mexico-causes-a-disruption-in-the-avocado-guacamole-supply/778340/55 "2017-01-29T19:07:18Z")

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> [@Snarky\_Kong](#):
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> Considering there were multiple controversies about how he didn’t each shitty food like a real 'Murican, I kinda doubt it.

SRSLY ??!!  
\*\*[Barack Obama takes motorcade on trip to satisfy fast food craving](http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/barackobama/5283002/Barack-Obama-takes-motorcade-on-trip-to-satisfy-fast-food-craving.html) Telegraph 2009  
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\*\*[President Obama and cheeseburgers: A love story](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2014/05/19/president-obama-and-cheeseburgers-a-love-story/http://) Washington Post 2014  
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\*\*[Obama gets his fast-food fix again](http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/06/24/obama-chipotle-lunch/11306453/) USAToday 2014  
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\*\*[Le fast-food préféré de Barack Obama bientôt à Pari](http://www.leparisien.fr/espace-premium/paris-75/le-fast-food-prefere-de-barack-obama-bientot-a-paris-19-02-2015-4545347.php)s Le Parisien 2015  
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There a lot of newsmedia horrified fascination with the fast food addiction of US presidents since Reagan’s time.

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**Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-our-fallout-with-mexico-causes-a-disruption-in-the-avocado-guacamole-supply/778340/56 "2017-01-29T23:39:15Z")

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No manos en mi [Topos](http://www.topochicousa.net/)!

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**Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-our-fallout-with-mexico-causes-a-disruption-in-the-avocado-guacamole-supply/778340/57 "2017-01-30T03:56:50Z")

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> [@wguy123](#):
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> A life without aguacate’s is not worth living. Leave Mexico alone!
> 
> On a serious note, a rising Mexico is good for the US. The more happy, healthy and wealthy the country becomes, the better it is for us north of the border. I don’t think our new leader understands this. “AMERICA FIRST” doesn’t have to mean we have to take a dump on every one else.

That’s the real moron tragedy here. Enriching Mexico’s economy and allowing them to have productive, well paying (by Mexican standards) jobs and what-not is the A#1, most sure-fire way to decrease illegal immigration.

People aren’t illegally immigrating here because they so desperately want to become Americans; they’re coming north because the economic conditions are so poor in Mexico and Central America that making a dangerous migration north, working shit jobs and sending money home is the best option they can think of.

I mean think about it… how bad are things if people are willing to leave their families and move somewhere else and do stuff like mow yards in the Texas heat, or work in a meat-packing plant, or harvest lettuce for 18 hours a day on their knees? And all that, to live in a one room apartment with a dozen other guys and send most of their money home? I’m sure it sucks, and I’m sure those folks desperately wish they could work at home in their communities and not have to try and fly under the radar here.

And it’s not like they’re displacing a bunch of hardworking American fruit-pickers and meat-packers and yard people (well maybe some teenagers, possibly), but rather are filling low-paid jobs that native born people typically won’t do for those wages. And if they were removed, the wages would have to go up, and so would prices, and everything that comes with that in a vicious circle.

It’s like the Trump camp is listening to ignorant fools when it comes to foreign policy and stuff like this.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 8:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-our-fallout-with-mexico-causes-a-disruption-in-the-avocado-guacamole-supply/778340/58 "2017-01-30T08:58:30Z")

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Trump _listening_ to ignorant fools? Does Iowa import corn? Nebraska import empty?

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-our-fallout-with-mexico-causes-a-disruption-in-the-avocado-guacamole-supply/778340/59 "2017-01-30T22:24:12Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Trump _listening_ to ignorant fools? Does Iowa import corn? Nebraska import empty?

No, they simply import subsidy money from California (people like me) to support their useless busted ass selves. I have to work to get paid. They get paid to NOT grow shit.

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**Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-our-fallout-with-mexico-causes-a-disruption-in-the-avocado-guacamole-supply/778340/60 "2017-01-30T23:31:43Z")

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> [@bump](#):
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> People aren’t illegally immigrating here because they so desperately want to become Americans; they’re coming north because the economic conditions are so poor in Mexico and Central America that making a dangerous migration north, working shit jobs and sending money home is the best option they can think of.
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> I mean think about it… how bad are things if people are willing to leave their families and move somewhere else and do stuff like mow yards in the Texas heat, or work in a meat-packing plant, or harvest lettuce for 18 hours a day on their knees? And all that, to live in a one room apartment with a dozen other guys and send most of their money home? I’m sure it sucks, and I’m sure those folks desperately wish they could work at home in their communities and not have to try and fly under the radar here.

My fine Libertarian friend says that these are the people we should want in our country. People who risk their lives and would work hard to make a living. That’s what we need more of!

Frankly, I think deep down that’s why so many pasty-white numbskulls are so worked up about getting rid of them. It’s because they know deep down in their addled skulls that these hard working immigrants would kick their lazy asses in a fair fight.

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