# If radical Islam is violent due to culture and not religion **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [September 11, 2015, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-radical-islam-is-violent-due-to-culture-and-not-religion/730741 "2015-09-11T23:24:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 24
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2015, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-radical-islam-is-violent-due-to-culture-and-not-religion/730741/461 "2015-09-16T03:35:44Z")
… D’you mean the side where those faggots totally deserved it, or something ? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![A\_isha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@A\_isha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/A_isha)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2015, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-radical-islam-is-violent-due-to-culture-and-not-religion/730741/462 "2015-09-16T03:41:15Z")
> [@canned\_mayhem](#): > > Super… > > Do you really want me to link the THOUSANDS of YouTube and livelink videos that show the other side of the story? Oh, no! Not that unassailable pinnacle of absolute truth, _YouTube videos!_ ---
**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2015, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-radical-islam-is-violent-due-to-culture-and-not-religion/730741/463 "2015-09-16T03:55:33Z")
> [@canned\_mayhem](#): > > Or, I could be a guy who was deeply affected by what I saw and experienced on September 11th 2001 and has decided to voice my opinion on an online message board. Unless you lost someone, it’s been almost 15 years. Stop using it as an excuse for bigoted comments. Just own them. > [@](#): > > Regardless, I look forward to watching my glorious country curb stomping the next group of morons who think they can get away with flinging mud on my way of life. Iraq had nothing to do with 911. Try again. Beyond that, the country that was helped out by the 5000 plus Americans who died fighting over there wasn’t the US. It was Iran. Iran had two major enemies on it’s border in 2001 for which jockeying for position with. The Taliban to the East and Saddam’s Iraq to the West. Within two years Bush had smashed both enemies to smithereens and allowed Iran to step into the breach, and expand her hegemony into Iraq and start throwing her weight her around along with rattling her saber. Iran is now vastly stronger and more influential than ever before and she’s that way with out having to spend any money or losing a single soldier. Honestly, I’m not sure George Bush could have done more to help Iran if he’d been a paid agent of the Iranian government. You may like to think that when the US thew away huge amounts of good will, treasure and the lives of it’s soldiers it somehow made the US safer, but in fact they country the US soldiers sacrificed themselves for was Iran. So, go ahead and “curb stomp” someone else if you want, but I have a hunch it’s not the US who will benefit. ---
**Author:** ![canned\_mayhem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/53a042/32.png) [@canned\_mayhem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/canned_mayhem)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2015, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-radical-islam-is-violent-due-to-culture-and-not-religion/730741/464 "2015-09-16T04:24:52Z")
> [@Ibn\_Warraq](#): > > So, go ahead and “curb stomp” someone else if you want, but I have a hunch it’s not the US who will benefit. Oh don’t worry, we will 🙂 Will it benefit the training of our troops to continue being the best the world has ever seen? Yup… Will it benefit us showing every other country on this earth that we can easily take them out? Yup… Will it put absolute fear into every group who naively thinks they can shake us to the core? Yup… Who’s the biggest bully on the block again??? Oops… ---
**Author:** ![canned\_mayhem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/53a042/32.png) [@canned\_mayhem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/canned_mayhem)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2015, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-radical-islam-is-violent-due-to-culture-and-not-religion/730741/465 "2015-09-16T04:32:39Z")
Fyi, if you live in some 3rd world hell hole then I’m sorry if I offended you. Maybe instead of complaining on the internet you should be doing more to save enough goats to trade passage to the land of “evil” like the rest of the earths population is seemingly trying to do. Just sayin… ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2015, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-radical-islam-is-violent-due-to-culture-and-not-religion/730741/466 "2015-09-16T05:09:14Z")
> [@canned\_mayhem](#): > > Regardless, I look forward to watching my glorious country curb stomping the next group of morons who think they can get away with flinging mud on my way of life. And what exactly is your way of life? I’m American and I’m rather sure my way of life isn’t at all like the one you’re demonstrating: irrational bigotry predicated on outright falsehoods. Care to try this discussion without the prejudice and incorrect generalizations on your part? ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2015, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-radical-islam-is-violent-due-to-culture-and-not-religion/730741/467 "2015-09-16T05:11:16Z")
> [@canned\_mayhem](#): > > Koran much? Have you ever even bothered to read it? Or is your disdain based wholly upon ignorance? ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2015, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-radical-islam-is-violent-due-to-culture-and-not-religion/730741/468 "2015-09-16T05:16:47Z")
canned mayhem: By the way, not really meaning to interfere with your “At war with Islam” ranting, but do you happen to remember what President Bush had to say about being at war with Islam? I’ll give you a hint: it’s not what you’re showing that you think it was. ---
**Author:** ![canned\_mayhem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/53a042/32.png) [@canned\_mayhem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/canned_mayhem)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2015, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-radical-islam-is-violent-due-to-culture-and-not-religion/730741/469 "2015-09-16T05:18:46Z")
Strange I’m trying to discuss how Islam is violent just like the OP asked and yet I’m getting attacked for my opinions. There’s a certain religion that does this exact same thing… ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2015, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-radical-islam-is-violent-due-to-culture-and-not-religion/730741/470 "2015-09-16T05:24:06Z")
> [@canned\_mayhem](#): > > Will it benefit us showing every other country on this earth that we can easily take them out? Yup… Ask the British how well that sentiment works. IOW : My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings : look upon my works, ye Mighty, and despair ! ---
**Author:** ![Sr\_Siete](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6de8d8/32.png) [@Sr\_Siete](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sr_Siete)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2015, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-radical-islam-is-violent-due-to-culture-and-not-religion/730741/471 "2015-09-16T05:27:54Z")
> [@canned\_mayhem](#): > > Strange > > I’m trying to discuss how Islam is violent just like the OP asked and yet I’m getting attacked for my opinions. > > There’s a certain religion that does this exact same thing… All of them? ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2015, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-radical-islam-is-violent-due-to-culture-and-not-religion/730741/472 "2015-09-16T05:29:26Z")
> [@canned\_mayhem](#): > > Strange > > I’m trying to discuss how Islam is violent just like the OP asked and yet I’m getting attacked for my opinions. > > There’s a certain religion that does this exact same thing… You’re not getting attacked for your opinions. Your opinions are getting attacked. Because they’re bad and dumb. ---
**Author:** ![canned\_mayhem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/53a042/32.png) [@canned\_mayhem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/canned_mayhem)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2015, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-radical-islam-is-violent-due-to-culture-and-not-religion/730741/473 "2015-09-16T05:29:27Z")
> [@Trinopus](#): > > Have you ever even bothered to read it? Or is your disdain based wholly upon ignorance? Yeah, I bothered to read it. The militant part that they are practicing to this day was to be expected but the ironic part was the way they planned on fooling a vast number of infidels into actually accepting it. That was the eye opener… ---
**Author:** ![canned\_mayhem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/53a042/32.png) [@canned\_mayhem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/canned_mayhem)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2015, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-radical-islam-is-violent-due-to-culture-and-not-religion/730741/474 "2015-09-16T05:33:30Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > You’re not getting attacked for your opinions. Your opinions are getting attacked. Because they’re bad and dumb. Thanks for clearing that up 🙂 I wonder how many Christians are gonna get slaughtered by Buddhists this week… ---
**Author:** ![canned\_mayhem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/53a042/32.png) [@canned\_mayhem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/canned_mayhem)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2015, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-radical-islam-is-violent-due-to-culture-and-not-religion/730741/475 "2015-09-16T05:50:31Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > canned mayhem: By the way, not really meaning to interfere with your “At war with Islam” ranting, but do you happen to remember what President Bush had to say about being at war with Islam? I’ll give you a hint: it’s not what you’re showing that you think it was. I could give a flying shit what Bush said about Islam. He dealt with THOUSANDS of them like a boss. Just like Obama is doing now and the next 87 presidents will do in the future. Nothing more radical than a hellfire landing on your prayer mat… ---
**Author:** ![canned\_mayhem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/53a042/32.png) [@canned\_mayhem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/canned_mayhem)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2015, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-radical-islam-is-violent-due-to-culture-and-not-religion/730741/476 "2015-09-16T05:57:06Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > Ask the British how well that sentiment works. Why would we care what they think? Last I heard we stomped their asses too… ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2015, 7:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-radical-islam-is-violent-due-to-culture-and-not-religion/730741/477 "2015-09-16T07:36:35Z")
> [@canned\_mayhem](#): > > Why would we care what they think? > > Last I heard we stomped their asses too… My point is that once upon a time and not too long ago at all they, too, had the might to kick everybody else’s arse, also a propensity to remind every one of that fact whenever they were not actively doing it. Today, not so much. Hence the Shelley quote. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2015, 7:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-radical-islam-is-violent-due-to-culture-and-not-religion/730741/478 "2015-09-16T07:59:24Z")
Iran and ISIS. The “black lives matter movement” and the war on police. Connect the dot, people! ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2015, 9:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-radical-islam-is-violent-due-to-culture-and-not-religion/730741/479 "2015-09-16T09:01:25Z")
> [@canned\_mayhem](#): > > I could give a flying shit what Bush said about Islam. He dealt with THOUSANDS of them like a boss. Just like Obama is doing now and the next 87 presidents will do in the future. Of course you don’t care what the man said because it interferes with you getting your hate on. The man said, “We are not at war with Islam.” The very man that “dealt with thousands of them like a boss” said we are not at war with Islam. > [@](#): > > Nothing more radical than a hellfire landing on your prayer mat… You are operating under yet another very incorrect idea: that any opinion (such as yours) is worthy of respect. Of course you have a right to an opinion. An ignorant, asinine, and flat out stupid opinion is not worthy of respect. You do not know what you’re talking about. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2015, 9:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-radical-islam-is-violent-due-to-culture-and-not-religion/730741/480 "2015-09-16T09:29:15Z")
> [@A\_isha](#): > > Muslims are doing more to fight the extremists than people like _you_ are. And those extremists are? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-radical-islam-is-violent-due-to-culture-and-not-religion/730741.md?page=23) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-radical-islam-is-violent-due-to-culture-and-not-religion/730741.md?page=25)