# If radical Islam is violent due to culture and not religion **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [September 11, 2015, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-radical-islam-is-violent-due-to-culture-and-not-religion/730741 "2015-09-11T23:24:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 58
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2015, 11:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-radical-islam-is-violent-due-to-culture-and-not-religion/730741/1142 "2015-10-09T11:46:49Z")
I know I’ve posted a link to this book on this site before; however, I can’t seem to find that post. A. J. Jacobs wrote [The Year of Living Biblically: One Man’s Humble Quest to Follow the Bible as Literally as Possible](http://www.amazon.com/Year-Living-Biblically-Literally-Possible/dp/0743291484/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1444391036&sr=1-1&keywords=Year+of+Living+Biblically). One of the things he discovered is something that’s been known for quite some time, IMHO: It is not possible to follow the Bible (either the Old or New Testament alone, nor the two together) literally. I’d be surprised if the same were not true for the Qur’an or any other faith’s scriptures. ---
**Author:** ![Human\_Action](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@Human\_Action](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Human_Action)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2015, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-radical-islam-is-violent-due-to-culture-and-not-religion/730741/1143 "2015-10-09T13:17:29Z")
> [@Robert163](#): > > So… am I a pacifist? In principle, yes. In most situations… most situations… yes. But I can not say I am a complete pacifist or that violence in self defense is wrong or even that violence in a preemptive manner… in very few, very narrowly drawn lines, would be unacceptable. > > But, “Hey, those guys in that city over there, they worship the blue god and we worship the green god!!!” No, that is never a justifiable cause for violence. And, if, they attacked you a month ago or a year or 3 years ago and you are just getting around to your counter attack, no. Only in case of “clear and present danger” is a counter attack acceptable. (To my standards). Thanks, that gives some context for your position. You believe that Mohammad’s use of force was not justified under the circumstances. I reasonably disagree, and thus don’t consider him a warmonger, or a bloodthirsty barbarian. History is full of those, and they don’t act the way Mohammad did. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2015, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-radical-islam-is-violent-due-to-culture-and-not-religion/730741/1144 "2015-10-09T18:36:07Z")
> [@Robert163](#): > > Try to follow, it is not a complex concept. 😉 > > I don’t care what they do in Italy or Norway. I care about what happens in Alabama and Saudi Arabia and Afghanistan. > > I realize that “most” Christians and “most” Muslims (in the USA and Europe) are not like that. I also - do not care - at all. I’m only concerned with religion when it becomes a problem. The other times and places, like Seattle or New York City or Italy or Norway… a bit annoying and nonsensical but… really not on my radar man. I’m concerned with religion when and where it is a problem. > > Why should I care about where it is not a problem? I’m an Atheist. When you remove the militant half of Militant Atheist and just focus on the Atheist half… why should I be either impressed or unimpressed with the way Christians in Seattle or New York City or Italy or Norway act? > > Also, sorry for repeating myself like 3 times… That’s wholly besides my point. My point is that when you describe something you see in Alabama and say it’s “what Christians believe” or “how Christians think/act”, without further clarification or qualification of the specific group you’re actually talking about ; then your reader will understand that you’re talking about all Christians because that’s how the English language _works_, and from there think you either an ignorant or a looney because the behaviours you’re talking about are only representative a small minority of Christians. Similarly, when you accuse “Muslims” of enforcing burqas for example, that comes off as either ignorant or deliberately mendacious. Because burqas are only a Thing in a small part of Afghanistan & northern Pakistan and I’m not sure it even still is there since the Taliban were sort of dealt with ; and some localized communities in India. The **overwhelming majority** of Muslims across the world look at the practice in puzzled incomprehension at best. ---
**Author:** ![Alex\_Schindler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@Alex\_Schindler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alex_Schindler)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-radical-islam-is-violent-due-to-culture-and-not-religion/730741/1145 "2015-10-23T04:33:09Z")
Jesusfuckinchrist , this thread is still going on? And not a novel thought expressed yet. ---
**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-radical-islam-is-violent-due-to-culture-and-not-religion/730741/1146 "2015-10-23T05:34:38Z")
> [@Alex\_Schindler](#): > > Jesusfuckinchrist , this thread is still going on? And not a novel thought expressed yet. Still going on? You’re the first post in nearly two weeks. ---
**Author:** ![Robert163](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/4af34b/32.png) [@Robert163](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robert163)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-radical-islam-is-violent-due-to-culture-and-not-religion/730741/1147 "2015-10-23T05:56:57Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > Similarly, when you accuse “Muslims” of enforcing burqas for example, that comes off as either ignorant or deliberately mendacious. Because burqas are only a Thing in a small part of Afghanistan & northern Pakistan and I’m not sure it even still is there since the Taliban were sort of dealt with ; and some localized communities in India. The **overwhelming majority** of Muslims across the world look at the practice in puzzled incomprehension at best. Afghanistan, Pakistan and Saudi Arabia. I’d say that is 3 places too many. And do you really think that women would be wearing Burkas if The Koran said: “Treat women exactly the same, make no distinction” instead of instructing women to be modest? BTW - In how many Muslim countries is it common for a woman to wear a Hijab? What about the social dictate where a woman can not be alone in a room with a man unless it is her father or husband or uncle. I’m not sure about uncles, is that allowed? This was probably very common 100 years ago, right? Has the Koran changed in the last 100 years? Did Mohammed come back and give us an update? BTW2- Why did you not mention Hijabs? Why was that left to me? Surely you know of their existence. Perhaps you were being mendacious. ---
**Author:** ![Ramira](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ramira/32/344_2.png) [@Ramira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ramira)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 9:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-radical-islam-is-violent-due-to-culture-and-not-religion/730741/1148 "2015-10-23T09:27:58Z")
> [@Robert163](#): > > And do you really think that women would be wearing Burkas if The Koran said: “Treat women exactly the same, make no distinction” instead of instructing women to be modest? Since the old pre-islamic culture practices that are effectively forbidden in the Quran still are practiced by the Taleban and even defended, yes, as it is more about the Pakhtun culture than about the Islam. > [@](#): > > BTW - In how many Muslim countries is it common for a woman to wear a Hijab? why do you care? I do not wear the hidjab nor am I convinced it is required, but some do. Covering the hair offends you why? It is nothing more than a different form of control you seek it seems to me. > [@](#): > > What about the social dictate where a woman can not be alone in a room with a man unless it is her father or husband or uncle. I’m not sure about uncles, is that allowed? Social dictates among hindus, among pagans - yes other cultures have different practices than americans. Olala! > [@](#): > > Why did you not mention Hijabs? Why was that left to me? Surely you know of their existence. Perhaps you were being mendacious. Mendacious? Irrelevant, knowing better. [Why you think the mere fact of hidjab is an issue is simply ignorance.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htGn-3_uJ-c) ---
**Author:** ![Robert163](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/4af34b/32.png) [@Robert163](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robert163)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 9:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-radical-islam-is-violent-due-to-culture-and-not-religion/730741/1149 "2015-10-23T09:52:37Z")
> [@Ramira](#): > > Since the old pre-islamic culture practices that are effectively forbidden in the Quran still are practiced by the Taleban and even defended, yes, as it is more about the Pakhtun culture than about the Islam. > why do you care? I do not wear the hidjab nor am I convinced it is required, but some do. Covering the hair offends you why? It is nothing more than a different form of control you seek it seems to me. > > Social dictates among hindus, among pagans - yes other cultures have different practices than americans. Olala! > Mendacious? Irrelevant, knowing better. [Why you think the mere fact of hidjab is an issue is simply ignorance.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htGn-3_uJ-c) What do I think? I think a woman’s testimony in court should be equal to that of a man. I think a woman should obey her own conscience instead of obeying her husband or her father. I think even moderate Islam when practiced in the middle east is incredibly sexist, even in 2015. I think that the fact that a woman in an Islamic culture, now, in 2015 can have a job… is indication of one thing: how horribly sexist and oppressive it was in the past, if, having a job is a giant leap forward into progress. I think 100 years ago, 500 years ago the amount of sexism and oppression of women was on a scale that we today in 2015 would consider appalling and barbaric. I think, the founder of your religion, who treated women as slaves and as de facto property was a HORRIBLE human being. A murder and a thief and a slaver and an all around horrible human being. I’m sure his “rhetoric” was very noble… I’m talking about his actions and his commands. That’s what I think. ---
**Author:** ![Ramira](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ramira/32/344_2.png) [@Ramira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ramira)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 9:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-radical-islam-is-violent-due-to-culture-and-not-religion/730741/1150 "2015-10-23T09:58:09Z")
Super moumtaz, I’m happy you are able to make such fine lists of stereotypes and manage to resist any information. Further sterile repetition is boring, just leave us alone. ---
**Author:** ![Robert163](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/4af34b/32.png) [@Robert163](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robert163)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 10:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-radical-islam-is-violent-due-to-culture-and-not-religion/730741/1151 "2015-10-23T10:06:59Z")
> [@Ramira](#): > > Since the old pre-islamic culture practices that are effectively forbidden in the Quran still are practiced by the Taleban and even defended, yes, as it is more about the Pakhtun culture than about the Islam. > why do you care? I do not wear the hidjab nor am I convinced it is required, but some do. Covering the hair offends you why? It is nothing more than a different form of control you seek it seems to me. > > Social dictates among hindus, among pagans - yes other cultures have different practices than americans. Olala! > Mendacious? Irrelevant, knowing better. [Why you think the mere fact of hidjab is an issue is simply ignorance.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htGn-3_uJ-c) What else do I think? I think that the people who defend Islam and The Koran and Mohammed are never going to admit that Islam, The Koran, or Mohammed are in any way wrong about anything. Oh, sure, there will be a brief tacit admittance that something is wrong… followed, quite often in the same sentence, with the explanation that “lots of people did bad things back then” or “well lot’s of other cultures do bad things too.” That is like a two sided [record](http://www.clipartbest.com/cliparts/niE/yAn/niEyAnMiA.jpeg) that keeps getting played over and over here. Side A: Well almost everyone was bad and evil way back then Side B: Well, lot’s of other cultures do bad stuff too you know!!! I’m sorry if you do not like my comments. If your religion is important to you you probably don’t want people saying bad things about it or making judgements. But sometimes criticism is warranted, sometimes criticism is accurate. I’m going to criticize bad governments, I’m going to criticize bad philosophies, I’m going to criticize harmful practices, injustice, exploitation, oppression, poverty, sexism, racism and, yes, religion too. Religion does not get a pass from criticism just because it is held sacred by so many. ---
**Author:** ![Robert163](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/4af34b/32.png) [@Robert163](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robert163)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 10:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-radical-islam-is-violent-due-to-culture-and-not-religion/730741/1152 "2015-10-23T10:10:09Z")
> [@Ramira](#): > > Super moumtaz, I’m happy you are able to make such fine lists of stereotypes and manage to resist any information. Further sterile repetition is boring, just leave us alone. Right. Because you are going to deny that Mohammed was a slave trader and a bandit? That his troops murdered 12 people when he invaded Mecca? See, I’m not the problem and I’m not ignorant. I’m actually talking about what actually happened. This is not a stereotype. Those things actually happened. I’m sure you would prefer that I “leave you alone”. ---
**Author:** ![Robert163](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/4af34b/32.png) [@Robert163](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robert163)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 10:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-radical-islam-is-violent-due-to-culture-and-not-religion/730741/1153 "2015-10-23T10:13:09Z")
> [@Ramira](#): > > Super moumtaz, I’m happy you are able to make such fine lists of stereotypes and manage to resist any information. Further sterile repetition is boring, just leave us alone. So, 100 years ago could a woman in an Islamic culture hold a job? 500 Years ago? 1400? Does not the Koran say that she is to obey her husband? Does not the Koran say one man’s testimony equals that of two women? Is this a list of stereotypes or is it a list of factual statements? ---
**Author:** ![Ramira](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ramira/32/344_2.png) [@Ramira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ramira)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 10:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-radical-islam-is-violent-due-to-culture-and-not-religion/730741/1154 "2015-10-23T10:27:25Z")
Yes a list of stereotypes, half facts, falsehoods, and misunderstandings. I do not see any point in trying to correct your prejudices and what you think you know after these 24 pages of a deaf dialogue. Why Khadija is erased from this prejudiced dialogue… well I suppose the conclusion needs to have its strawmen. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 10:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-radical-islam-is-violent-due-to-culture-and-not-religion/730741/1155 "2015-10-23T10:32:43Z")
> [@Robert163](#): > > What else do I think? > > I think that the people who defend Islam and The Koran and Mohammed are never going to admit that Islam, The Koran, or Mohammed are in any way wrong about anything. Oh, sure, there will be a brief tacit admittance that something is wrong… followed, quite often in the same sentence, with the explanation that “lots of people did bad things back then” or “well lot’s of other cultures do bad things too.” > > That is like a two sided [record](http://www.clipartbest.com/cliparts/niE/yAn/niEyAnMiA.jpeg) that keeps getting played over and over here. > > Side A: Well almost everyone was bad and evil way back then > Side B: Well, lot’s of other cultures do bad stuff too you know!!! > > I’m sorry if you do not like my comments. If your religion is important to you you probably don’t want people saying bad things about it or making judgements. But sometimes criticism is warranted, sometimes criticism is accurate. > > I’m going to criticize bad governments, I’m going to criticize bad philosophies, I’m going to criticize harmful practices, injustice, exploitation, oppression, poverty, sexism, racism and, yes, religion too. Religion does not get a pass from criticism just because it is held sacred by so many. All of which is irrelevant to the main argument in this thread, which is that Islam is **exceptional**. It’s not, and I’m not rehashing the arguments demonstrating this which you’ve already ignored and/or misrepresented numerous times in this thread. ---
**Author:** ![MrQwertyasd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9d8465/32.png) [@MrQwertyasd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrQwertyasd)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 11:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-radical-islam-is-violent-due-to-culture-and-not-religion/730741/1156 "2015-10-23T11:58:19Z")
So am iI getting this right, people are arguing that slavery is good because Mohammed had slaves and the Quran says it’s OK ? Can one muslim enslave another muslim, or does the slavery have to be along racial or cultural lines ? ---
**Author:** ![even\_sven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/dfb087/32.png) [@even\_sven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/even_sven)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-radical-islam-is-violent-due-to-culture-and-not-religion/730741/1157 "2015-10-23T12:13:23Z")
> [@Robert163](#): > > So, 100 years ago could a woman in an Islamic culture hold a job? 500 Years ago? 1400? I don’t know much about 500 and 1400 years ago, but 100 years ago certainly. For one, to Islamic West Africa and you will find women entirely in charge of marketing milk and milk products, same as today. There is a rich history of Muslim female warriors, politicians, scholars, artists and craftspeople. ---
**Author:** ![Ramira](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ramira/32/344_2.png) [@Ramira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ramira)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-radical-islam-is-violent-due-to-culture-and-not-religion/730741/1158 "2015-10-23T14:44:38Z")
> [@MrQwertyasd](#): > > So am iI getting this right, people are arguing that slavery is good because Mohammed had slaves and the Quran says it’s OK ? Where in this thread has anyone said such a thing? > [@even\_sven](#): > > I don’t know much about 500 and 1400 years ago, Yes of course, Khadidja herself was an important merchant and it has always been the islamic law that the husband has no dominion over the wife’s assets or the wife’s business. There is sadly the customary law (3urf) that has overridden the quranic injunction in different places and times, which is a reason why “quranism” is popular among the feminist interpretation to even strip away the acculation of the many doubtful pseudo-ahadith. > [@](#): > > but 100 years ago certainly. For one, to Islamic West Africa and you will find women entirely in charge of marketing milk and milk products, same as today. There is a rich history of Muslim female warriors, politicians, scholars, artists and craftspeople. It has to be said it is more common to see the economic role [The wikipedia provides](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Islamic_economics)some corrective to the simplistic, ignorant stereotype views. > [@](#): > > The labor force in the Caliphate were employed from diverse ethnic and religious backgrounds, while both men and women were involved in diverse occupations and economic activities.[64] Women were employed in a wide range of commercial activities and diverse occupations[65] in the primary sector (as farmers for example), secondary sector (as construction workers, dyers, spinners, etc.) and tertiary sector (as investors, doctors, nurses, presidents of guilds, brokers, peddlers, lenders, scholars, etc.).[66] Muslim women also held a monopoly over certain branches of the textile industry,[65] the largest and most specialized and market-oriented industry at the time, in occupations such as spinning, dyeing, and embroidery. In comparison, female property rights and wage labour were relatively uncommon in Europe until the Industrial Revolution in the 18th and 19th centuries.[67] Of course different times and places would have different balances. but the Saudi vision, it is not real return to salaf roots, it is in fact innovation - a great irony of the salafistes in that they are such radical innovators although dressing it up in the discourse that says the opposite. ---
**Author:** ![Human\_Action](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@Human\_Action](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Human_Action)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-radical-islam-is-violent-due-to-culture-and-not-religion/730741/1159 "2015-10-23T15:00:12Z")
> [@Robert163](#): > > What else do I think? > > I think that the people who defend Islam and The Koran and Mohammed are never going to admit that Islam, The Koran, or Mohammed are in any way wrong about anything. I’ll defend Islam from erroneous slander, the same way I’d defend anything. However, I don’t endorse the practice of Islam, or any other religion. > [@Robert163](#): > > Oh, sure, there will be a brief tacit admittance that something is wrong… followed, quite often in the same sentence, with the explanation that “lots of people did bad things back then” or “well lot’s of other cultures do bad things too.” > > That is like a two sided [record](http://www.clipartbest.com/cliparts/niE/yAn/niEyAnMiA.jpeg) that keeps getting played over and over here. > > Side A: Well almost everyone was bad and evil way back then > Side B: Well, lot’s of other cultures do bad stuff too you know!!! When your claim is that Islam or Mohammad are/were uniquely awful and/or worse in some way than other religions, **those are legitimate counterarguments.** You don’t get to define them as bad arguments by fiat, just because they undermine your thesis. Sorry. > [@Robert163](#): > > I’m sorry if you do not like my comments. If your religion is important to you you probably don’t want people saying bad things about it or making judgements. But sometimes criticism is warranted, sometimes criticism is accurate. > > I’m going to criticize bad governments, I’m going to criticize bad philosophies, I’m going to criticize harmful practices, injustice, exploitation, oppression, poverty, sexism, racism and, yes, religion too. Religion does not get a pass from criticism just because it is held sacred by so many. You aren’t criticizing “religion”, though, you are criticizing Islam. You’ve only mentioned other religions _to trumpet them as being superior to Islam_. Your argument is indistinguishable from proselytizing for Christianity, which is (in part) why your criticism of Islam has been such a failure (your ignorance has also contributed, of course). ---
**Author:** ![MrQwertyasd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9d8465/32.png) [@MrQwertyasd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrQwertyasd)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-radical-islam-is-violent-due-to-culture-and-not-religion/730741/1160 "2015-10-23T15:00:41Z")
> [@](#): > > > [@](#): > > > > ``` > > Originally Posted by **MrQwertyasd** [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/images/buttons/viewpost.gif](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=18797883#post18797883) > > So am iI getting this right, people are arguing that slavery is good because Mohammed had slaves and the Quran says it's OK ? > > > > ``` > > “Where in this thread has anyone said such a thing?” Guy in previous post said Mohammed was quite nice to his slaves. Did he have slaves ? ---
**Author:** ![MrQwertyasd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9d8465/32.png) [@MrQwertyasd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrQwertyasd)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-radical-islam-is-violent-due-to-culture-and-not-religion/730741/1161 "2015-10-23T15:06:27Z")
Says here in wikipedia > [@](#): > > Slave women were required mainly as concubines and menials. A Muslim slaveholder was entitled by law to the sexual enjoyment of his slave women. While free women might own male slaves, they had no such right.[[55]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_views_on_slavery#cite_note-55) Why couldn’t women have sex slaves too ? [URL=“[Islamic views on slavery - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_views_on_slavery#cite_note-55)”] [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-radical-islam-is-violent-due-to-culture-and-not-religion/730741.md?page=57) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-radical-islam-is-violent-due-to-culture-and-not-religion/730741.md?page=59)