If RFK, Jr. Drops out, how does this impact the election?

Yeah, how do you go from calling yourself a Democrat to flipping to independent to throwing your full support to a mentally-disabled criminal cult leader rapist Republican in less than a year?

Cheryl Hines, have you filled those divorce papers yet?

Because it gets him attention. That’s the only reason behind anything he’s done.

CNN says on the air RFK Jr will drop out of the race on Friday. No word if he will endorse Trump.

Both Kennedy and Trump will be in Arizona Friday.

ABC News says he will endorse Trump.

If it’s attention he wants, why is he waiting until after the convention. Why not announce a few hours before Harris’ acceptance speech tomorrow?

The scuttlebutt I’ve been reading says that Trump, desperate for more votes, has been open to the idea of buying Junior’s votes by offering him a senior position in his administration in exchange for his endorsement, maybe even a Cabinet position. Trump doesn’t care that he’s a crazy wackadoodle – so is Trump himself, and so are most of his likely appointees.

Junior probably sees it as an opportunity for power and relevance, as opposed to just unceremoniously losing the race and fading into obscurity. A true devil’s bargain for both; the only victim is America.

Nasty but (thankfully) unlikely thought: Trump ditches Vance and signs up Kennedy for the ticket.

I suspect this is practically impossible, but I remain convinced there is a quid pro quo someplace behind this announcement. (ETA: As @wolfpup speculates)

And grift.

More power and attention = more donations to Children’s Health Defense = more millions for Junior.

It’s too bad that Trump moved his official residence from N.Y. to Florida, and RFK Jr.'s phony attempt at N.Y. residency to get on the ballot was rejected. Otherwise, there’d be a chance of prosecution in N.Y. if it could be shown that Trump offered a high-level government position to Junior in exchange for an endorsement. There’s some precedent in N.Y. for that; even though it’s illegal by federal law to offer a job for political considerations, such cases are hard to prove and don’t get federally prosecuted.

If you follow 3rd Party politics at all there’s also a backstory where a MAGA-friendly group took over the Libertarian Party in 2022, removed their “anti-bigotry” plank, and made it a strategy to appeal to far-right podcasters and cowardly anonymous bigots on X.

The Libertarian Party itself nominated an openly-gay former Democrat who espouses fairly plumline libertarian views. The LP leadership and their abhorrent groupies attacked him as a “groomer” who “wants to trans all the kids” while also openly worshipping a pro-confederate economist who started dating a 15 year-old girl when he was 26.

Then the LP Chair pretty much openly endorsed Trump, after inviting him to the national convention (where he was booed by all except the MAGA-grifters), where she (allegedly, probably in her delusional mind) secured the promise of Trump to pardon some political prisoners and place a Libertarian to his cabinet.

Then said LP Chair entered into a (possibly illegal) joint-fundraising committee with the RFK Jr campaign, where the Libertarian Party is paid a commission from RFK which will pay off the significant debts incurred for having Trump speak at the convention.

If RFK endorses Trump and ends up in his cabinet, The Chair of the Libertarian Party will take “credit” for that and say it was her who masterminded “putting a Libertarian in the Cabinet.” Despite the fact that none of these people are libertarians and libertarian interest groups have previously sued Donald Trump (you know, the small government “outsider”) for using the government to steal property from private citizens to give to his businesses.

My money is on Brain-Eating Worms.

Now excuse me. I found a Road-Kill Coyote a few days ago, and I’m Hangry!

It would be funny if Friday Trump announces Vance is quitting and RFK is his new running mate!

I don’t think anything is impossible at this point.

trump: All these Republicans are endorsing Ka-MA-la. What will I do?
RFK jr.: Hold my bear.

That’s my take on it. The Republicans knew there would be a strong anti-Trump movement. So they wanted to have a safe outlet for that; a candidate who people could use to vote against Trump but who didn’t have any chance of actually winning.

Currently trending on Twitter: “RFK Jr.” and “Maggots”. :thinking:

@Jackmannii The “maggots” probably has to do with protesters in Chicago who went in the breakfast area at one of the hotels where delegates were staying and dumped a bunch of maggots on tables. Charming, right? Not sure if it was on the food or where exactly.

I am not going to let shenanigans by RFK Jr. and the Trump campaign make me fearful about what will happen. I doubt that many of his followers will go to Trump or Harris. Most are likely to not vote at all.

I did a Double-Take on this, then pissed myself laughing. :laughing:

If a candidate drops out in a week or so are they removed from the states’ ballots? Or do they have to petition to be removed? Or once they get on a ballot, they stay on?

That will depend by state. When Mel Carnahan was killed in a plane crash three weeks before the election, it was too late by Missouri law to replace his name on the ballot. When Paul Wellstone was killed even closer to the election, Minnesota law required his name be removed be removed from the ballot. In that case, the name of the replacement candidate (Walter Mondale) was literally pasted over Wellstone’s name on ballots that had already been printed.

Thanks, those are good examples of how two states handle a death very differently.


For the presidential office it’s the electors that are technically on the ballot, right? Does that mean the electors have to petition to be removed? It must be a non-trivial process to prevent mistakes.

It can’t be a common case that a presidential candidate does all the work to get on a ballot and then asks to be removed. Is it possible states don’t even have a process?

It seems like the safest course is to leave everyone that qualified on the ballot and let the voters and electors sort it out.

I guess Arizona has a process:

Between the brain worms and the bear, how is this guy ever taken seriously?