# If Romney loses, it will be a shame it happened this way

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-romney-loses-it-will-be-a-shame-it-happened-this-way/635409>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [September 21, 2012, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-romney-loses-it-will-be-a-shame-it-happened-this-way/635409 "2012-09-21T16:52:08Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 11\
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**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2012, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-romney-loses-it-will-be-a-shame-it-happened-this-way/635409/41 "2012-09-22T23:45:58Z")

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Any democrat other than Joe Lieberman will be seen as the spawn of satan by today’s GOP.

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2012, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-romney-loses-it-will-be-a-shame-it-happened-this-way/635409/42 "2012-09-23T00:39:40Z")

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> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#):
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> Republicans who [won’t] give a true moderate like John Huntsman the slightest chance at all to win the nomination.

Huntsman is very right-wing economically. He’s actually terribly conservative. He’s just more sane on things like climate issues, or willing to pretend to be.

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**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2012, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-romney-loses-it-will-be-a-shame-it-happened-this-way/635409/43 "2012-09-23T01:29:28Z")

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Palin/Bachman in 2016.

I bet somebody is already printing the t-shirts.

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2012, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-romney-loses-it-will-be-a-shame-it-happened-this-way/635409/44 "2012-09-23T02:11:45Z")

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> [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](#):
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> Palin/Bachman in 2016.
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> I bet somebody is already printing the t-shirts.

I was really hoping they’d run as a third party this year (is it really too late?).

Free idea for Hillary: you and Bill can both get a lot of the spotlight, without having to work as hard as a president does, by running Chelsea’s campaign!

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2012, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-romney-loses-it-will-be-a-shame-it-happened-this-way/635409/45 "2012-09-23T02:24:59Z")

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I’m going to go out on a limb and say that the Democratic and Republican candidate sin '16 will not be someone who has run previously.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2012, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-romney-loses-it-will-be-a-shame-it-happened-this-way/635409/46 "2012-09-23T02:50:09Z")

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Yeah, it’ll be interesting who runs in '16. There won’t be another election for a Wisconsin senate seat until '16, so Paul Ryan can’t run for that in order to elevate his own profile.

I suspect it will be a mix of same old faces and new ones.

I predict that Sarah Palin will play the same old “put my name out there to make more money” play she did this time and in no way will make any serious stab at it.

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**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2012, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-romney-loses-it-will-be-a-shame-it-happened-this-way/635409/47 "2012-09-23T03:49:55Z")

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> [@Wesley\_Clark](#):
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> The true believers actually believe a lot of irrational, bigoted, contradictory things and have no self awareness or introspection. Bachmann, Cain, Santorum, Palin, Perry. They may win support among the base but due to the irrational, ignorant, misinformed and bigoted things they say, their lack of self awareness and their lack of tact they tend to alienate everyone but the base and collapse their own campaign.

Of the people you named, Bachmann, Santorum and possibly Cain are the only ones dumb enough to be true believers.

Perry, I think, is more politically savvy than a lot of people give him credit for. He was, after all a Democrat back in the '80s and switched party affiliation when he saw the political winds changing. He’s also at least made an effort to court Hispanic voters in Texas and generally takes a softer line on immigration than the rest of the GOP. The problem is his schtick doesn’t really play well outside the Lone Star state.

I also highly doubt Palin is a true believer. She’s dumb, sure, but I think she’s more concerned about cashing in on the latest faux-outrage drummed up by the right wing noise machine than anything else.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2012, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-romney-loses-it-will-be-a-shame-it-happened-this-way/635409/48 "2012-09-23T03:57:17Z")

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Perry couldn’t even remember, on more than one occasion, which Federal agencies he would shut down. Sorry, he goes on the dummy list.

I give Cain more credit. I think this was all for fun and selling more books for Herman. Mission accomplished!

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**Author:** ![gamerunknown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6bbea6/32.png) [@gamerunknown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gamerunknown)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2012, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-romney-loses-it-will-be-a-shame-it-happened-this-way/635409/49 "2012-09-23T13:18:50Z")

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> [@moonshot925](#):
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> Can’t imagine 4 more year of Obama.

Out of interest, could you try? What do you expect unemployment figures to be? Union membership? Any future defence budget predictions, what’ll happen with gun legislation, the nuclear stockpile, relations with the middle East, healthcare, abortion, gay marriage?

> [@The Tooth](#):
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> I’m under the impression you won’t have to imagine it.

Depends on whether he’s abusing any substances or not.

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**Author:** ![Nametag](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nametag/32/406_2.png) [@Nametag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nametag)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2012, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-romney-loses-it-will-be-a-shame-it-happened-this-way/635409/50 "2012-10-01T00:14:25Z")

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When the audience cheered during _The Daily Show_’s segment devoted to Mitt Romney fucking up (it was called “Barack Obama is the Luckiest Dude on Earth”), Jon Stewart scolded them: “Is that how you wanna win this thing? The other guy tears an ACL?”

My reply to the OP is the same as my my response to Jon Stewart: “Fuck him [Romney]; sweep the leg, Barry!”

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**Author:** ![don\_t\_ask](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@don\_t\_ask](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/don_t_ask)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2012, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-romney-loses-it-will-be-a-shame-it-happened-this-way/635409/51 "2012-10-01T00:38:21Z")

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> [@Nametag](#):
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> When the audience cheered during _The Daily Show_’s segment devoted to Mitt Romney fucking up (it was called “Barack Obama is the Luckiest Dude on Earth”), Jon Stewart scolded them: “Is that how you wanna win this thing? The other guy tears an ACL?”

Brings to mind my all time favorite dumb luck sporting victory. “Aussie” (formerly British, previously Hungarian) Joe Bugner won the WBF Heavyweight title from James “Bonecrusher” Smith by first round TKO.

Smith had been pummeling Bugner so mercilessly that he dislocated his shoulder while throwing a huge punch.

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