# "If someone disliked \_\_\_\_\_\_ (or thought it was crappy/boring/etc) then their opinion is wrong" **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 3, 2016, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-someone-disliked-______-or-thought-it-was-crappy-boring-etc-then-their-opinion-is-wrong/747866 "2016-03-03T21:08:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2016, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-someone-disliked-______-or-thought-it-was-crappy-boring-etc-then-their-opinion-is-wrong/747866/21 "2016-03-04T14:26:28Z")
> [@Rigamarole](#): > > Breaking Bad, of course. Ugh. I agree with everything else in this thread. The Beatles. Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead. Jeff Beck. Dark Side of the Moon. All amazing works that should be held in high esteem by everyone of taste. Breaking Bad, however, is a repetitive, uninteresting, tedious slog through the life of a whiny narcissist and a bunch of cardboard props pretending to be characters. ---
**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2016, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-someone-disliked-______-or-thought-it-was-crappy-boring-etc-then-their-opinion-is-wrong/747866/22 "2016-03-04T14:33:09Z")
I agree with Hamlet! ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2016, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-someone-disliked-______-or-thought-it-was-crappy-boring-etc-then-their-opinion-is-wrong/747866/23 "2016-03-04T14:41:20Z")
There are too many things I disagree with the General Opinion about, either in thinking they are great, or in thinking everyone else is completely wrong for liking, for me to agree with the OP’s assertion. Too damned many things are subjective. And I say this even though a lot of the things I love – Beethoven Symphonies, Classic movies – fall into the category of Things Most People Believe Are Great. ---
**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanub/32/132_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUB)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2016, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-someone-disliked-______-or-thought-it-was-crappy-boring-etc-then-their-opinion-is-wrong/747866/24 "2016-03-04T14:47:47Z")
I can’t think of any music or movies , etc. that I can’t imagine someone else not liking. I think the OP may be somewhat tongue in cheek and is asking us for things we love so much we cannot accept someone else not liking it but I can’t think of anything. I do have a hard time believing someone doesn’t find baby animals cute. I mean, what kind of soulless monster does one have to be to not love [this cutie](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/O4pvFkRr8pI/maxresdefault.jpg) ? There are also some celebrities that I think are objectively good looking (as much as anything can be), even if they aren’t one’s particular “type” Such as Grace Kelly or [Henry Cavill](http://highlighthollywood.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/henry-cavill4.jpg). I think that has to do with facial symmetry or whatever other wacky things go on in our monkey brain to tell us who would be ideal for mating purposes or whatever, but things like movies and other entertainment just have too many variables to be universally appealing. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2016, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-someone-disliked-______-or-thought-it-was-crappy-boring-etc-then-their-opinion-is-wrong/747866/25 "2016-03-04T14:54:03Z")
From the flip-side, it seems like everyone loves the book _ **Three Men In A Boat** _. I didn’t. I had to struggle to get through it, and it’s novella-length. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/channing_idaho_banks/32/250_2.png) [@Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Channing_Idaho_Banks)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2016, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-someone-disliked-______-or-thought-it-was-crappy-boring-etc-then-their-opinion-is-wrong/747866/26 "2016-03-04T14:56:42Z")
This explains the recent rise of specialized live cover-bands. They sell better than many original artists. People know what they like, and they want to hear it, again. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2016, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-someone-disliked-______-or-thought-it-was-crappy-boring-etc-then-their-opinion-is-wrong/747866/27 "2016-03-04T15:02:18Z")
> [@Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](#): > > This explains the recent rise of specialized live cover-bands. They sell better than many original artists. People know what they like, and they want to hear it, again. And again. And again. And again. At least if my teenage daughter is any indication. ---
**Author:** ![Yodalicious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yodalicious/32/8195_2.png) [@Yodalicious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yodalicious)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2016, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-someone-disliked-______-or-thought-it-was-crappy-boring-etc-then-their-opinion-is-wrong/747866/28 "2016-03-04T15:26:51Z")
On a related note, this thread makes me think of some movie reviews on Rotten Tomatoes. A movie is certified fresh with a 98% rating. What the hell did those other 2% see that everyone else missed? They’re obviously wrong. Back on topic. My brother thought Captain America: Winter Soldier was just another typical action movie with explosions just because. He’s wrong… and an idiot. ---
**Author:** ![SykoSkotty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c0e974/32.png) [@SykoSkotty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SykoSkotty)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2016, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-someone-disliked-______-or-thought-it-was-crappy-boring-etc-then-their-opinion-is-wrong/747866/29 "2016-03-04T15:28:10Z")
I’ve simply come to the conclusion that there are people who dislike EVERYTHING. There seems to be one in every group. No matter where you are, what you’re doing, what song you’re hearing or what movie you’re seeing, they always hate it. They almost never get excited or passionate about anything - just born to complain. I am not one of these people. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2016, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-someone-disliked-______-or-thought-it-was-crappy-boring-etc-then-their-opinion-is-wrong/747866/30 "2016-03-04T15:42:58Z")
Not to threadshit, but I disagree with the very premise of this thread. There are no absolutes. With the sum total of the human experience, there are too many variations of perception and experience. One man’s meat is another man’s poison, and all that. And anyone that thinks otherwise is deluded. And wrong. Anyone that believes in absolutes is wrong. Absolutely. ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2016, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-someone-disliked-______-or-thought-it-was-crappy-boring-etc-then-their-opinion-is-wrong/747866/31 "2016-03-04T15:45:04Z")
> [@WordMan](#): > > **'Xap** - not liking Beck is a missed opportunity. Hey, I do that all the time - so many revered artists I have walked past - sometimes for clear, important reasons, and sometimes because I wasn’t in the mood that day. So it goes. I tried. I’ve listened to a variety of his stuff. The only things I get into are when he works with others, like some of the Yardbirds stuff. I’ve never gotten into Richard Thompson either. Something about their styles. But on the other side, if I mentioned Bela Fleck for electric banjo, most people who just go, who? or maybe, electric banjo? ---
**Author:** ![F.U.Shakespeare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/aca169/32.png) [@F.U.Shakespeare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/F.U.Shakespeare)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2016, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-someone-disliked-______-or-thought-it-was-crappy-boring-etc-then-their-opinion-is-wrong/747866/32 "2016-03-04T16:24:03Z")
Even not caring for the Beatles’ music can be reasonable. A person over a certain age, who has a deep love for a lot of music, all of which is vastly different from (and independent of influence by) the Fab Four? I know a semi-famous octogenarian record collector who sincerely thinks that music started going downhill around 1933. But his collection has an amazingly wide range: bluegrass, classical, jazz, flamenco. Pretty much everything that was available when his tastes were forming. When he says he doesn’t like the Beatles, I don’t try to argue with him. OTOH, I dated a woman who claimed to hate the Beatles, and yet all her favorite bands showed obvious influence from them. One example was The Presidents of the United States of America (they had a mid-1990’s hit "Peaches). During an interview, one member of TPOTUSOA listed the Beatles as his _only_ influence. I think this woman (a non-musician) was trying to affect more knowledge of music than she had - _“Am I the only one who realizes those four bums didn’t have any talent?”_ - and didn’t realize that musicians can hear such obvious influences. I told her about the comedian who hated the Beatles because they were such a shameless ripoff of the Monkees. Small wonder that relationship didn’t work out. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Lowry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Sam\_Lowry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Lowry)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2016, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-someone-disliked-______-or-thought-it-was-crappy-boring-etc-then-their-opinion-is-wrong/747866/33 "2016-03-04T16:55:03Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > Not to threadshit, but I disagree with the very premise of this thread. > > There are no absolutes. With the sum total of the human experience, there are too many variations of perception and experience. One man’s meat is another man’s poison, and all that. And anyone that thinks otherwise is deluded. And wrong. Anyone that believes in absolutes is wrong. > > Absolutely. I agree. I used to think that anyone who disliked Johnny Cash must have something wrong with them. Then I talked to someone whose dad played Cash constantly when she was growing up, and she just heard Cash so much that she really doesn’t like to hear him now. I can understand that. My only caveat is when people don’t like something almost universally beloved and dismiss it completely. It’s fine to not like The Beatles or Johnny Cash, or even to find them overrated, but if you call them untalented and think that people who like them are idiots, then your opinion there is wrong. ---
**Author:** ![GreedySmurf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a698b9/32.png) [@GreedySmurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreedySmurf)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2016, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-someone-disliked-______-or-thought-it-was-crappy-boring-etc-then-their-opinion-is-wrong/747866/34 "2016-03-04T16:56:32Z")
> [@edwards\_beard](#): > > As mentioned above, Breaking Bad > > Adding The Wire It’s funny, the first time I tried to watch The Wire, I couldn’t get into it. But I revisited it a year later and loved it, I binged watch every season in about two weeks. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2016, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-someone-disliked-______-or-thought-it-was-crappy-boring-etc-then-their-opinion-is-wrong/747866/35 "2016-03-04T16:57:30Z")
> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#): > > I tried. I’ve listened to a variety of his stuff. The only things I get into are when he works with others, like some of the Yardbirds stuff. I’ve never gotten into Richard Thompson either. Something about their styles. Same for me. I’ve had the career-spanning 3-CD boxset _Beckology_ for about 20 years and from time to time, maybe once a year, listen to the whole thing, but I’ve never gotten into it with the exception of the Yardbirds and the Jeff Beck Group stuff. Not that it’s bad music, mind you, but it leaves me cold, no matter if he plays hard rock or jazz fusion. I understand and hear that he’s a technically brilliant player, but what he plays rarely reaches my guts. I really tried, and I should like him, as I like all the other great axemen of his generation, but nope, it doesn’t work for me. Richard Thompson OTOH became one of my favorite guitar players and songwriters right after having been introduced to him by a friend through the _Action Packed_ compilation about ten years ago. But as others have mentioned, it’s possible to acknowledge that a piece is great art without being able to enjoy it much. Some of the artists mentioned in this thread fit that category for me, like Jeff Beck or Sinatra; great singer and performer, but I’m just not into crooners, I’m a rock guy mostly. ---
**Author:** ![GargoyleWB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gargoylewb/32/199_2.png) [@GargoyleWB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GargoyleWB)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2016, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-someone-disliked-______-or-thought-it-was-crappy-boring-etc-then-their-opinion-is-wrong/747866/36 "2016-03-04T18:54:38Z")
> [@F.U.Shakespeare](#): > > Nothing is unconditional. > … > Although this person wasn’t alive when the album came out, I’m imagining how they might react to one of my all-time favorite songs, “Heart Shaped Box” by Nirvana. > … To confuse things up…I’m a Nirvana fan, seen them live and lived through it all back in the day, and Heart Shaped Box is one of my least favorite songs of theirs. It’s always felt strained, clunky, and lacking in spontaneity. ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2016, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-someone-disliked-______-or-thought-it-was-crappy-boring-etc-then-their-opinion-is-wrong/747866/37 "2016-03-04T18:57:13Z")
I’ve been reading _[And On Piano, Nicky Hopkins](http://www.amazon.com/Piano-Nicky-Hopkins-Extraordinary-Greatest/dp/0984436227/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1457117649&sr=8-1&keywords=And+On+Piano%2C+Nicky+Hopkins)_ with my laptop open, using Youtube to listen to all those obscure British singles he played on. (The greatest way to read a book about a musician. We didn’t even dream of something like that in SF in the 60s.) Hopkins spent a year in Beck’s touring band. That chapter was the dullest yet. Nicky Hopkins is a wonderful example for this thread. How can anybody not get chills and thrills from his keyboard parts? If you dislike [Edward, the Mad Shirt Grinder](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHbA7D60XkI) … ---
**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2016, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-someone-disliked-______-or-thought-it-was-crappy-boring-etc-then-their-opinion-is-wrong/747866/38 "2016-03-04T18:57:59Z")
> [@WordMan](#): > > Yep, the perennial dilemma for this type of discussion. How the heck would Beethoven react to Rhapsody in Blue or Mood Indigo on any number of levels? How would Bach, harmonic master, react to Thelonius Monk or The Ramones, who each did cool harmonic stuff? Or better yet – How would Bach react to Beethoven? ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2016, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-someone-disliked-______-or-thought-it-was-crappy-boring-etc-then-their-opinion-is-wrong/747866/39 "2016-03-04T19:21:31Z")
> [@Hamlet](#): > > Ugh. I agree with everything else in this thread. The Beatles. Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead. Jeff Beck. Dark Side of the Moon. All amazing works that should be held in high esteem by everyone of taste. > > Breaking Bad, however, is a repetitive, uninteresting, tedious slog through the life of a whiny narcissist and a bunch of cardboard props pretending to be characters. And, supports the idea that the Life of a drug dealer is a Good Thing. (Note, despite that the showrunners may think, his wife wont get that money. The IRS, etc will get it, not her. So all he succeeded in doing is ruining his family’s life) ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2016, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-someone-disliked-______-or-thought-it-was-crappy-boring-etc-then-their-opinion-is-wrong/747866/40 "2016-03-04T21:53:27Z")
Breaking Bad did not sit well with me. I don’t know there’s anything that I think must be loved. THe very idea is bizarre to me. But The Count of Monte Cristo–I have a hard time thinking of a legitimate criticism of that book. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-someone-disliked-______-or-thought-it-was-crappy-boring-etc-then-their-opinion-is-wrong/747866.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-someone-disliked-______-or-thought-it-was-crappy-boring-etc-then-their-opinion-is-wrong/747866.md?page=3)