# If Subway's Tuna Ain't Tuna, Then What Is It?

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** food-cooking\
**Created:** [January 29, 2021, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-subways-tuna-aint-tuna-then-what-is-it/931773 "2021-01-29T14:13:30Z")\
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**Post date:** [February 2, 2021, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-subways-tuna-aint-tuna-then-what-is-it/931773/122 "2021-02-02T16:48:07Z")

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Stop in for a Subway foot-long tuNOT sandwich.

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**Post date:** [February 2, 2021, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-subways-tuna-aint-tuna-then-what-is-it/931773/123 "2021-02-02T20:22:11Z")

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> [@Bill\_Door](#):
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> Smith Brothers Cough Drops

Yes, they are still sold. I see them in drugstores such as Walgreens and large regional grocery store pharmacy/health aisles such as Hy Vee.

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**Post date:** [February 2, 2021, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-subways-tuna-aint-tuna-then-what-is-it/931773/124 "2021-02-02T20:32:16Z")

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ETA: I was mistaken. It is Luden’s brand wild cherry cough drops I was remembering seeing.

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**Post date:** [February 2, 2021, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-subways-tuna-aint-tuna-then-what-is-it/931773/125 "2021-02-02T23:51:37Z")

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> [@Guy\_Incognito](#):
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> Stop in for a Subway foot-long tuNOT sandwich.

Tu or tunot, there is no fish.

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**Post date:** [February 3, 2021, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-subways-tuna-aint-tuna-then-what-is-it/931773/126 "2021-02-03T00:41:41Z")

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So long, thanks.

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**Post date:** [February 3, 2021, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-subways-tuna-aint-tuna-then-what-is-it/931773/127 "2021-02-03T01:18:35Z")

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> [@Cervaise](#):
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> How much to have it passed through a civet cat?

First we have to know whether or not the civet cat handlers are unionized.

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**Post date:** [February 3, 2021, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-subways-tuna-aint-tuna-then-what-is-it/931773/128 "2021-02-03T01:33:11Z")

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I used to buy Pine Bros Cough drops for candy. They were chewy.

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**Post date:** [February 3, 2021, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-subways-tuna-aint-tuna-then-what-is-it/931773/129 "2021-02-03T01:38:30Z")

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Not unlike anything passed through a civet cat.

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**Post date:** [February 3, 2021, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-subways-tuna-aint-tuna-then-what-is-it/931773/130 "2021-02-03T01:47:51Z")

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> [@Bootb](#):
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> First we have to know whether or not the civet cat handlers are unionized.

Hmm… we could run a giant magnet over them i guess.

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**Post date:** [February 3, 2021, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-subways-tuna-aint-tuna-then-what-is-it/931773/131 "2021-02-03T01:54:57Z")

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I imagine the answer is more pedantic and based on technical, rather than plain meaning arguments. I suspect what they mean is that the product called “Tuna fish” is comprised of tuna, mayo, celery, and seasonings, etc. When individual ingredients are weighed (or possibly measured), the combined weight (or volume) of mayo + celery + seasonings is greater than that of tuna. The amount of non-tuna ingredients is more than 50% of the composition of “tuna fish” and therefore the advertising is “misleading.” The outcome will be Subway changing the term to “Tuna fish salad” or “tuna fish spread” to avoid further legal nonsense.

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**Post date:** [February 3, 2021, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-subways-tuna-aint-tuna-then-what-is-it/931773/132 "2021-02-03T14:41:11Z")

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> [@Dark\_Sponge](#):
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> My daughter is a former sandwich artist at Subway.

Is this a thing? Are the kids slapping the ham on a roll in Subway really called “artists?”

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**Post date:** [February 3, 2021, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-subways-tuna-aint-tuna-then-what-is-it/931773/133 "2021-02-03T15:10:10Z")

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> [@LordHarry](#):
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> I imagine the answer is more pedantic and based on technical, rather than plain meaning arguments. I suspect what they mean is that the product called “Tuna fish” is comprised of tuna, mayo, celery, and seasonings, etc. When individual ingredients are weighed (or possibly measured), the combined weight (or volume) of mayo + celery + seasonings is greater than that of tuna. The amount of non-tuna ingredients is more than 50% of the composition of “tuna fish” and therefore the advertising is “misleading.” The outcome will be Subway changing the term to “Tuna fish salad” or “tuna fish spread” to avoid further legal nonsense.

As above though, the lawyers are claiming that there is no tuna, and in fact no fish at all in the spread. The complaint is not a nitpick about tuna not being more than 50% of the spread.

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**Post date:** [February 3, 2021, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-subways-tuna-aint-tuna-then-what-is-it/931773/134 "2021-02-03T15:32:18Z")

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> [@spifflog](#):
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> Are the kids slapping the ham on a roll in Subway really called “artists?”

My daughter worked at a Subway for a month during high-school. She was indeed a “sandwich artist”. The owner was a nut. She had cameras watching everything the artists did. One kid put too many black olives on a sandwich and the owner had a fit on him (the black olives were expensive, and they were supposed to count how many they put on). The kid cried and my daughter came to his defense, turning in her apron.

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**Post date:** [February 3, 2021, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-subways-tuna-aint-tuna-then-what-is-it/931773/135 "2021-02-03T17:38:48Z")

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Just wash it down with a cup of kopi luwak coffee, and you’re all set!

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**Post date:** [February 3, 2021, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-subways-tuna-aint-tuna-then-what-is-it/931773/136 "2021-02-03T18:45:29Z")

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While I would buy the technical argument, the gross binary argument seems spurious and easily tested.

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**Post date:** [February 3, 2021, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-subways-tuna-aint-tuna-then-what-is-it/931773/137 "2021-02-03T18:50:13Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> _"The January 21 suit, filed in the U.S. District Court’s Northern District of California, claims that “independent testing has repeatedly affirmed” the plaintiffs’ claims, but does not mention where these tests were performed, when or by whom. There was no specific evidence to support these claims noted in the suit._
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> _Dhanowa did not respond to NBC News requests for comment via phone call and text message. Amin did not respond to a NBC News emailed request for comment._
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> The "plaintiffs’ are dodging the press and the lawsuit doesnt mention where the tests were done or any other info.
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> This is purely a hit piece on Subway.

> [@Pork\_Rind](#):
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> As above though, the lawyers are claiming that there is no tuna, and in fact no fish at all in the spread. The complaint is not a nitpick about tuna not being more than 50% of the spread.

Yeah, sounds like it’s a strategy to just put out there in the public sphere that there **was** a suit and there **was** a claim.

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**Post date:** [February 3, 2021, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-subways-tuna-aint-tuna-then-what-is-it/931773/138 "2021-02-03T19:35:42Z")

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I have had kope luwak. I brewed it in a stovetop glass vacuum brewer, which made the finest brews of any coffee. It was rather meh.

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**Post date:** [February 4, 2021, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-subways-tuna-aint-tuna-then-what-is-it/931773/139 "2021-02-04T15:44:44Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> the black olives were expensive, and they were supposed to count how many they put on).

Ah yes, the black olives dilemma. When I worked at Subway back in the day, you were only supposed to put three measly olives on a six inch sub. Olive loving customers would recognize this as miserably tight-fisted, and insist on more. You were really between an olive pit and a hard place if your boss was watching.

I had a boss who would check the garbage for thrown away food, and come down on us for that. The thing is, customers would come in and order, say, a cold cut combo with no bologna. The boss insisted that we should just tell the customer there were no changes allowed, but you try to tell the Karens of the world that you can’t pull the bologna off the pre-made meat packet when you make their sandwich. I usually just choked down the bolongna myself as quickly as I could to get rid of it.

Bologna still puts me off.

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I saw this posted this morning (photo of Subway tuna pouch):  
 ![209 votes and 31 comments so far on Reddit](https://preview.redd.it/q9ptuywp1gf61.jpg?auto=webp&s=9fd13184537215f746841ffb5a47ea262996b728)

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> I have had kope luwak. I brewed it in a stovetop glass vacuum brewer, which made the finest brews of any coffee. It was rather meh. -

It could have been worse. I could have been the crappiest coffee you’ve ever had.

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