# If Subway's Tuna Ain't Tuna, Then What Is It? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** food-cooking\ **Created:** [January 29, 2021, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-subways-tuna-aint-tuna-then-what-is-it/931773 "2021-01-29T14:13:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Manduck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/manduck/32/256_2.png) [@Manduck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Manduck)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2021, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-subways-tuna-aint-tuna-then-what-is-it/931773/142 "2021-02-04T21:16:25Z")
OH MY GOD it says it contains a ton of poison!!! ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2021, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-subways-tuna-aint-tuna-then-what-is-it/931773/143 "2021-02-04T21:32:05Z")
French poison, no less. Maybe it is absinthe. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2021, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-subways-tuna-aint-tuna-then-what-is-it/931773/144 "2021-02-04T22:43:34Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > Maybe it is absinthe. Wouldn’t that make it pickled fish? ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2021, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-subways-tuna-aint-tuna-then-what-is-it/931773/145 "2021-02-04T23:22:32Z")
Well, absinthe does make the heart grow flounder. Come on, _someone_ was going to say it! ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2021, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-subways-tuna-aint-tuna-then-what-is-it/931773/146 "2021-02-05T01:25:37Z")
well, thats the problem - the poisson is absinthe from the sandwich. ---
**Author:** ![Folly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folly/32/3219_2.png) [@Folly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folly)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2021, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-subways-tuna-aint-tuna-then-what-is-it/931773/147 "2021-02-05T01:27:04Z")
That is one multi-layered pun. Congratulations to all of you. Now never do it again. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2021, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-subways-tuna-aint-tuna-then-what-is-it/931773/148 "2021-02-05T03:43:29Z")
> [@Folly](#): > > That is one multi-layered pun. Are you saying it was torte-tured? ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2021, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-subways-tuna-aint-tuna-then-what-is-it/931773/149 "2021-02-05T03:55:43Z")
It was just tu-na much ---
**Author:** ![Guy\_Incognito](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guy_incognito/32/3920_2.png) [@Guy\_Incognito](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guy_Incognito)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2021, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-subways-tuna-aint-tuna-then-what-is-it/931773/150 "2021-02-05T21:51:06Z")
[[Album] imgur.com ![](https://i.imgur.com/uYMTxEA.jpeg?fb "imgur.com") ](https://imgur.com/a/NA8ceCW) ---
**Author:** ![Two\_Many\_Cats2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/779978/32.png) [@Two\_Many\_Cats2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Two_Many_Cats2)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2021, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-subways-tuna-aint-tuna-then-what-is-it/931773/151 "2021-02-05T22:34:32Z")
I wish somebody would make a sandwich out of that Tooney the Talking Tuna puppet on Me-TV’s new cartoon show. ---
**Author:** ![Shalmanese](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shalmanese](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shalmanese)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2021, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-subways-tuna-aint-tuna-then-what-is-it/931773/152 "2021-02-09T14:35:49Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > Coincidentally (?) Subway’s website is now promoting “100% Real Wild Caught Tuna” subs with a 15% off promo. 😃 Isn’t all tuna wild caught tuna? I thought that was the problem, we haven’t figured out how to farm it yet so we’re decimating the wild species. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2021, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-subways-tuna-aint-tuna-then-what-is-it/931773/153 "2021-02-09T15:02:55Z")
> [@Shalmanese](#): > > Isn’t all tuna wild caught tuna? Schools of small tuna are herded into pens floated in the open sea and fattened for slaughter. More like tuna ranching than tuna farming. ---
**Author:** ![mixdenny](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mixdenny/32/2962_2.png) [@mixdenny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mixdenny)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2021, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-subways-tuna-aint-tuna-then-what-is-it/931773/154 "2021-06-23T22:34:52Z")
Well, it sure tastes and looks like tuna. I think we need a better investigation. > **[Subway’s tuna sandwiches found to contain no tuna fish DNA, lab tests find...](https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/lab-tests-no-tuna-subway-sandwiches)** > > New York Times lab tests found no real tuna in Subway sandwiches following lawsuit claims. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2021, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-subways-tuna-aint-tuna-then-what-is-it/931773/155 "2021-06-23T22:40:57Z")
Not quite. The NYT could not find any Tuna DNA. Cooking kills the DNA. > **[Subway says the drama surrounding the New York Times' tuna story is based on...](https://www.businessinsider.com/subway-says-tests-on-tuna-sandwiches-were-unreliable-2021-6)** > > Subway called the testing method used by The New York Times unreliable — as noted by the paper itself — and maintains that it serves 100% tuna. _“No amplifiable tuna DNA was present in the sample and so we obtained no amplification products from the DNA. Therefore, we cannot identify the species,” the lab told The Times in an email, noting that cooking the fish can make the tuna DNA difficult or even impossible to identify._ _Subway said as much in its statement, posted online._ _“Unfortunately, various media outlets have confused the inability of DNA testing to confirm a specific protein with a determination that the protein is not present,” it reads. “The testing that the New York Times report references does not show that there is not tuna in Subway’s tuna. All it says is that the testing could not confirm tuna, which is what one would expect from a DNA test of denatured proteins.”_ ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2021, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-subways-tuna-aint-tuna-then-what-is-it/931773/156 "2021-06-23T22:43:07Z")
There’s a thread on this already, [If Subway's Tuna Ain't Tuna, Then What Is It? - #152 by Shalmanese](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-subways-tuna-aint-tuna-then-what-is-it/931773/152) which petered out in February. 🙂 @What_Exit, @puzzlegal, should they be combined? Otherwise, well, now we have the link for the previous discussion. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2021, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-subways-tuna-aint-tuna-then-what-is-it/931773/157 "2021-06-23T22:54:07Z")
Yup, makes sense to combine. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2021, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-subways-tuna-aint-tuna-then-what-is-it/931773/158 "2021-06-23T23:31:27Z")
If Subway has discovered some kind of meatless tuna analog that tastes like tuna, smells like tuna, and is less expensive than tuna, then they’d be better off just marketing that for what it is than selling it on the sly. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2021, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-subways-tuna-aint-tuna-then-what-is-it/931773/159 "2021-06-23T23:43:32Z")
Like krab for fake crab, maybe tünã? ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2021, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-subways-tuna-aint-tuna-then-what-is-it/931773/160 "2021-06-24T00:07:01Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > tünã Personally, I’d go with tüñå. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2021, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-subways-tuna-aint-tuna-then-what-is-it/931773/161 "2021-06-24T02:43:02Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > _Subway said as much in its statement, posted online._ > > _“Unfortunately, various media outlets have confused the inability of DNA testing to confirm a specific protein with a determination that the protein is not present,” it reads. “The testing that the New York Times report references does not show that there is not tuna in Subway’s tuna. All it says is that the testing could not confirm tuna, which is what one would expect from a DNA test of denatured proteins.”_ So, the take-away from that is that Subway doesn’t know what DNA and protien are. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-subways-tuna-aint-tuna-then-what-is-it/931773.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-subways-tuna-aint-tuna-then-what-is-it/931773.md?page=9)