# If Texas seceded, how far up shit creek would they be? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [January 26, 2024, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-texas-seceded-how-far-up-shit-creek-would-they-be/996644 "2024-01-26T01:22:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2024, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-texas-seceded-how-far-up-shit-creek-would-they-be/996644/62 "2024-01-26T21:19:47Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > > [@Akaj](#): > > > > It’ll never happen. What would all those red-blooded patriots do with all their American flags and flag-themed gear? And are they gonna start _booing_ when they hear “The Star Spangled Banner” or “God Bless the USA”? > > Ever been to Texas? They love their flag. Yeah, that’s true. And I’m sure they can get Greenwood to write some drivel about Texas being _even better_ than the USA. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2024, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-texas-seceded-how-far-up-shit-creek-would-they-be/996644/63 "2024-01-26T21:23:06Z")
A big flag with red and white stripes and one big star-_America PLUS!_ ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2024, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-texas-seceded-how-far-up-shit-creek-would-they-be/996644/64 "2024-01-26T21:24:32Z")
They should just move to Switzerland, then. Their flag is a big plus. _I’ll show myself out …_ ---
**Author:** ![Mama\_Zappa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/71e660/32.png) [@Mama\_Zappa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mama_Zappa)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2024, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-texas-seceded-how-far-up-shit-creek-would-they-be/996644/65 "2024-01-26T21:43:07Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > See Canada vs Quebec for another Quebec has not actually seceded from Canada. They do periodically make noise about doing so, but several referenda on the topic have failed (if narrowly). The impact to the economy (on both sides of the divide) would be substantial. ---
**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2024, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-texas-seceded-how-far-up-shit-creek-would-they-be/996644/66 "2024-01-26T21:46:48Z")
Remember the Enterprise, on the other hand. ---
**Author:** ![Toxgoddess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Toxgoddess](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Toxgoddess)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2024, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-texas-seceded-how-far-up-shit-creek-would-they-be/996644/67 "2024-01-26T22:09:35Z")
That one Hertz. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2024, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-texas-seceded-how-far-up-shit-creek-would-they-be/996644/68 "2024-01-26T22:19:58Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > > [@Loach](#): > > > > I don’t know if there is a way to know that but Texas has about 200,000 in the military as a whole. > > But how many of them are actually stationed _in_ Texas? I don’t really think there will be that much of a problem with U.S. military troops on bases based in Texas if they are ordered to withdraw. If the hypothetical is that both sides say “Ok, agree to disagree,” shake hands and part ways, you might be right. Any more acrimonious parting will not go well for the military or the country. ---
**Author:** ![kitap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b9e5f3/32.png) [@kitap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kitap)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2024, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-texas-seceded-how-far-up-shit-creek-would-they-be/996644/69 "2024-01-26T23:22:42Z")
Just tell them “no more NCAA football”. They’ll abandon the idea like that. ---
**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2024, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-texas-seceded-how-far-up-shit-creek-would-they-be/996644/70 "2024-01-27T00:28:15Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > A big flag with red and white stripes and one big star-_America PLUS!_ [![](https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fbesthotelshome.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2023%2F01%2FWhy-are-the-Flags-of-Texas-and-Chile-Similar.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=b5d0c4e321614b086c90827fb25fa2625d74e740248cc072950038739296df86&ipo=images) ](https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fbesthotelshome.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2023%2F01%2FWhy-are-the-Flags-of-Texas-and-Chile-Similar.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=b5d0c4e321614b086c90827fb25fa2625d74e740248cc072950038739296df86&ipo=images) Which one is Texas and which one is for a Latin American country? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2024, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-texas-seceded-how-far-up-shit-creek-would-they-be/996644/71 "2024-01-27T00:39:36Z")
I think they would just take the standard American flag, take off the fifty stars, and put in one big star. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2024, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-texas-seceded-how-far-up-shit-creek-would-they-be/996644/72 "2024-01-27T00:53:23Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > > [@rsat3acr](#): > > > > I’ve lived here since 1962 but I would leave, > > Trump might build a wall making that difficult. Bring a ladder. Forget Trump, who will likely lose without Texas electoral votes. The Democrats — at least those in power — aren’t for open borders either. rsat3act could try for asylum, but most of those claims are denied. So it’s either stay in Texas, or go into the shadows to do a job Americans won’t do at a wage Americans wouldn’t ever accept. ---
**Author:** ![TruCelt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trucelt/32/523_2.png) [@TruCelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruCelt)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2024, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-texas-seceded-how-far-up-shit-creek-would-they-be/996644/73 "2024-01-27T01:25:14Z")
> [@snowthx](#): > > Which one is Texas and which one is for a Latin American country? Right is Texas. Left is either Chile or Peru. I can’t decide without cheating. I always get those two confused. ---
**Author:** ![OldGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/3bc359/32.png) [@OldGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldGuy)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2024, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-texas-seceded-how-far-up-shit-creek-would-they-be/996644/74 "2024-01-27T03:33:33Z")
> [@TruCelt](#): > > Right is Texas. Left is either Chile or Peru. I can’t decide without cheating. I always get those two confused. Chile – the country my AFS brother was from. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2024, 7:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-texas-seceded-how-far-up-shit-creek-would-they-be/996644/75 "2024-01-27T07:15:05Z")
Wow. I have doctor’s in Texarkana, Ar and Texarkana, Tx. (I think it’s actually the same affiliation/system they work in) Wonder how that will work over there? I’d hate to go to a foreign country for healthcare. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2024, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-texas-seceded-how-far-up-shit-creek-would-they-be/996644/76 "2024-01-27T18:58:11Z")
> [@Beckdawrek](#): > > Wow. I have doctor’s in Texarkana, Ar and Texarkana, Tx. (I think it’s actually the same affiliation/system they work in) > Wonder how that will work over there? > I’d hate to go to a foreign country for healthcare. Maybe they’ll have universal healthcare? I might have to move. 😁 ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2024, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-texas-seceded-how-far-up-shit-creek-would-they-be/996644/77 "2024-01-27T19:13:26Z")
Oh, no that’s much too liberal. Money talks. Need a knee surgery? Plop down the newly minted Texas coins, that have no backing. Hope their value holds up til you get to Houston to the nice orthopedic hospital and hope the good surgeons haven’t escaped and the place has some supplies and medical personnel. Knee surgery with out anesthesia would be painful. Nope not going in there. No one is masked up. And surgeons don’t wear gloves. 'Cause freedom is always foremost. Don’t worry patient, if you live thru the pain your immune system will protect you. Don’t be a sheep. You’re a true sovereign Texan now. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2024, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-texas-seceded-how-far-up-shit-creek-would-they-be/996644/78 "2024-01-27T19:28:19Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > I think they would just take the standard American flag, take off the fifty stars, and put in one big star. Looking at his costume, Captain America would never agree to become Captain Texas… he would be Captain Puerto Rico. . . . . [Captain America] Mmm… Captain Chile, maybe? [/CA] 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2024, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-texas-seceded-how-far-up-shit-creek-would-they-be/996644/79 "2024-01-27T19:35:31Z")
Hey, Texas does everything bigger. In the New Texas Republic it would at least be Major America! ---
**Author:** ![commasense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/commasense/32/3017_2.png) [@commasense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/commasense)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2024, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-texas-seceded-how-far-up-shit-creek-would-they-be/996644/80 "2024-01-27T20:44:36Z")
Legal Eagle on Republican states seceding. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/1dhvry6E0jA/maxresdefault.jpg "Can Texas Really Secede From The Union - National Divorce?") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dhvry6E0jA) ---
**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2024, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-texas-seceded-how-far-up-shit-creek-would-they-be/996644/81 "2024-01-27T23:53:12Z")
> [@Mama\_Zappa](#): > > > [@Horatius](#): > > > > See Canada vs Quebec for another > > Quebec has not actually seceded from Canada. They do periodically make noise about doing so, but several referenda on the topic have failed (if narrowly). I took it as Horatius naming Quebec/Canada as one example (along with the other consummated break-ups mentioned) where steps toward a peaceful “divorce” were openly put in motion (referendums, e.g.). There were tentative plans made for a potential peaceful secession (IIRC). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-texas-seceded-how-far-up-shit-creek-would-they-be/996644.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-texas-seceded-how-far-up-shit-creek-would-they-be/996644.md?page=5)