# If the Jews control Hollywood, then why...

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**Created:** [January 26, 2010, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-jews-control-hollywood-then-why/526545 "2010-01-26T19:08:47Z")\
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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2010, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-jews-control-hollywood-then-why/526545/21 "2010-01-26T20:36:38Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> I love “talks to it like it’s a real beaver.” Am I the only one here who doesn’t usually talk to beavers? I don’t have a clue how one is supposed to address them.

Ha! That was a weird turn of phrase…

Rumor: Jim Caviezel will be playing the role of the beaver…

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2010, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-jews-control-hollywood-then-why/526545/22 "2010-01-26T20:42:00Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> I love “talks to it like it’s a real beaver.” Am I the only one here who doesn’t usually talk to beavers? I don’t have a clue how one is supposed to address them.

Gee, I thought it was going to be a movie about what inspired Mark Sanford.  
And I saw a porn called Pussy Talk once, about a beaver which talked back.

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**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2010, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-jews-control-hollywood-then-why/526545/23 "2010-01-26T20:45:58Z")

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> [@FriarTed](#):
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> Actually, I think the lesbians did.
> 
> Well, one lesbian.
> 
> His pal, who has defended him in the past, Jodie Foster.

Too many drinks on the _Maverick_ set one night, and he’s still holding that over her years later, eh?

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2010, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-jews-control-hollywood-then-why/526545/24 "2010-01-26T21:03:51Z")

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Seriously, what career does Gibson have? When he made \*Signs \*in 2002 he was still one of the biggest stars in the world… and then he couldn’t get an acting gig for 8 years. He directed a low budget movie that made over $300 million in 2004… and the one film he directed since then, he had to finance himself. If “Premiere” still existed and was still publishing their Power List, would he be in the top 50? The top 100?

I’d say his career is proof positive that while Jews may not control Hollywood, whoever it is who actually \*does \*control Hollywood doesn’t like Mel Gibson.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2010, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-jews-control-hollywood-then-why/526545/25 "2010-01-26T21:22:14Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> Seriously, what career does Gibson have? When he made \*Signs \*in 2002 he was still one of the biggest stars in the world… and then he couldn’t get an acting gig for 8 years.

Or didn’t seek one. Either way I guess the poor bastard couldn’t do much except count the tens of millions (or more) he made on Passion- which made $600 million, not $300 million.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2010, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-jews-control-hollywood-then-why/526545/26 "2010-01-26T21:29:21Z")

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In Hollywood terms, an actor who isn’t working is dead.

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**Author:** ![MsRobyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/90ced4/32.png) [@MsRobyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsRobyn)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2010, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-jews-control-hollywood-then-why/526545/27 "2010-01-26T21:46:34Z")

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Encore is featuring Mel Gibson this month or next. (I wasn’t quite paying attention, so I’m not sure.)

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2010, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-jews-control-hollywood-then-why/526545/28 "2010-01-26T21:56:00Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> In Hollywood terms, an actor who isn’t working is dead.

Put it this way: it was a huge hit to his acting career. I didn’t realize that he had not starred in a movie in almost a decade and studios probably would have balked at the idea of trying to sell a movie based on him. Is his career dead? Since he’s trying to act again, we’ll see if people want to go to his movies. Since Edge of Darkness is coming out in January I’m guessing the studio didn’t have a ton of confidence in it.

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2010, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-jews-control-hollywood-then-why/526545/29 "2010-01-26T22:01:30Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> I love “talks to it like it’s a real beaver.” Am I the only one here who doesn’t usually talk to beavers? I don’t have a clue how one is supposed to address them.

Is that an accidental quotation from The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe?

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2010, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-jews-control-hollywood-then-why/526545/30 "2010-01-26T22:13:50Z")

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In the Golden Age of Hollywood, practically ALL of the major studios were headed by Jews (Darryl Zanuck and Walt Disney were about the only studio heads who WEREN’T Jewish). It’s fair and accurate to say that, in those days, Jews ran Hollywood. And yet, the Catholic Church got EXTREMELY favorable treatment in movies in those days. A contradiction? Not at all. The business was run by Jews, but it doesn’t follow that Harry Cohn, Louis B. Mayer and Jack Warner had a shared agenda to promote Jewish interests. They wanted to make money, and figured their best best was to make movies that appealed to mainstream, Christian America.

Today? If anything, Hollywood is even MORE Jewish than it used to be. Practically ALL the major studios have Jewish bosses. But just as in the Golden Age, Jewish studio heads are practical people, and will work with people they dislike and disrespect if they think he helps their bottom line.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2010, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-jews-control-hollywood-then-why/526545/31 "2010-01-26T22:16:51Z")

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> [@Voyager](#):
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> Gee, I thought it was going to be a movie about what inspired Mark Sanford.  
> And I saw a porn called Pussy Talk once, about a beaver which talked back.

[Chatterbox](http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0075830/). An underappreciated classic.

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**Author:** ![mcott](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f6c823/32.png) [@mcott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mcott)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2010, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-jews-control-hollywood-then-why/526545/32 "2010-01-26T22:58:53Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> Why would this be any more nonsensical than other stuff Gibson’s said?
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> Maybe it’s a Jewish beaver. I would google “Jewish beaver” but I have a feeling about the kind of sites that would be displayed…

Surprisingly, nothing odd in the first page of links, and in the image section, actually two stills from the move of Mel running with a beaver on his arm. Who woulda thunk that.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2010, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-jews-control-hollywood-then-why/526545/33 "2010-01-26T23:02:48Z")

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> [@HubZilla](#):
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> Scientologists control Hollywood, [silly](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Cmonjews.jpg).
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> On the other hand, Mel hasn’t had a movie role since 2006 DUI incident (other than Who Killed the Electric Car?). Maybe, after nearly 4 years, he’s begged and pleaded with the Jews to let him back in?

To be honest, I was willing to cut him a little slack on the antisemitic rant he made after being stopped for drunk driving, on the assumption that one deserves some slack for drunken behavior, but he also presented himself as a staunch Catholic family man (father of seven) for whom [the Pope was not Catholic enough](http://www.nytimes.comhttp://www.nytimes.com/2003/03/09/magazine/is-the-pope-catholic-enough.html). But then he cheated on his wife, who divorced him and he is now shacked up with his girlfriend.

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**Author:** ![MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MPB_in_Salt_Lake)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2010, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-jews-control-hollywood-then-why/526545/34 "2010-01-26T23:26:46Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> he also presented himself as a staunch Catholic family man (father of seven) for whom [the Pope was not Catholic enough](http://www.nytimes.comhttp://www.nytimes.com/2003/03/09/magazine/is-the-pope-catholic-enough.html). But then he cheated on his wife, who divorced him and he is now shacked up with his girlfriend.

In a town (Hollywood) where rank hypocrisy is par for the course, Mel Gibson is about the most hypocritical piece of shit around.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2010, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-jews-control-hollywood-then-why/526545/35 "2010-01-26T23:33:24Z")

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> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#):
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> Is that an accidental quotation from The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe?

Definitely an accident. Unless it amused you.

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**Author:** ![Freddy\_the\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a587f6/32.png) [@Freddy\_the\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freddy_the_Pig)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2010, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-jews-control-hollywood-then-why/526545/36 "2010-01-26T23:43:46Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> I love “talks to it like it’s a real beaver.” Am I the only one here who doesn’t usually talk to beavers?

**Marley**? I think you’re being a little hard on the beavers.

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**Author:** ![GilaB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8e7dd6/32.png) [@GilaB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GilaB)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2010, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-jews-control-hollywood-then-why/526545/37 "2010-01-27T00:18:39Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> … but he also presented himself as a staunch Catholic family man (father of seven) for whom [the Pope was not Catholic enough](http://www.nytimes.comhttp://www.nytimes.com/2003/03/09/magazine/is-the-pope-catholic-enough.html). …

Functional link [here](http://www.nytimes.com/2003/03/09/magazine/is-the-pope-catholic-enough.html)

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**Author:** ![Rodgers01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b19c9b/32.png) [@Rodgers01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rodgers01)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2010, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-jews-control-hollywood-then-why/526545/38 "2010-01-27T01:34:55Z")

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> [@](#):
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> **Who runs Hollywood? C’mon  
> December 19, 2008|JOEL STEIN**
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> I have never been so upset by a poll in my life. Only 22% of Americans now believe “the movie and television industries are pretty much run by Jews,” down from nearly 50% in 1964. The Anti-Defamation League, which released the poll results last month, sees in these numbers a victory against stereotyping. Actually, it just shows how dumb America has gotten. Jews totally run Hollywood.
> 
> How deeply Jewish is Hollywood? When the studio chiefs took out a full-page ad in the Los Angeles Times a few weeks ago to demand that the Screen Actors Guild settle its contract, the open letter was signed by: News Corp. President Peter Chernin (Jewish), Paramount Pictures Chairman Brad Grey (Jewish), Walt Disney Co. Chief Executive Robert Iger (Jewish), Sony Pictures Chairman Michael Lynton (surprise, Dutch Jew), Warner Bros. Chairman Barry Meyer (Jewish), CBS Corp. Chief Executive Leslie Moonves (so Jewish his great uncle was the first prime minister of Israel), MGM Chairman Harry Sloan (Jewish) and NBC Universal Chief Executive Jeff Zucker (mega-Jewish). If either of the Weinstein brothers had signed, this group would have not only the power to shut down all film production but to form a minyan with enough Fiji water on hand to fill a mikvah…

More [here](http://articles.latimes.com/2008/dec/19/opinion/oe-stein19).

Of course people who are Jewish are extremely powerful in Hollywood. (At least one book’s been written on how they created the place: [An Empire Of Their Own: How the Jews Invented Hollywood](http://www.amazon.com/Empire-Their-Own-Invented-Hollywood/dp/0385265573/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1264554859&sr=8-1).) Whether that means “the Jews” control Hollywood - in the sense that they conspire together to promote their interests or whatever people think - no, I don’t think so.

As for Mel Gibson, I’d be surprised if there weren’t some Jews involved in his production on some level, but I guess everyone makes up their own minds and lives to their own standards. I’d bet there are some gay people working on his sets, too, even though (IIRC) he’s made homophobic comments in the past as well.

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**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2010, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-jews-control-hollywood-then-why/526545/39 "2010-01-27T04:30:41Z")

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> [@davekhps](#):
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> The Jews don’t control Hollywood-- _money_ controls Hollywood. As long as Mel Gibson makes movies that make money (and doesn’t actually kill anyone in the process), he’ll have work, even from Hollywood Jews.

> [@Rodgers01](#):
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> Of course people who are Jewish are extremely powerful in Hollywood. (At least one book’s been written on how they created the place: [An Empire Of Their Own: How the Jews Invented Hollywood](http://www.amazon.com/Empire-Their-Own-Invented-Hollywood/dp/0385265573/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1264554859&sr=8-1).) Whether that means “the Jews” control Hollywood - in the sense that they conspire together to promote their interests or whatever people think - no, I don’t think so.

Both of these are correct. There are a huge number of Jews in very powerful positions in Hollywood, to the point that it’s not totally inaccurate to say “Jews control Hollywood”. But it’s misleading, since obviously they are acting as individuals and in the interests of their specific companies. There isn’t a vast cadre in the vein of the Elders of Zion dictating who is in or out.

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