# If the left usurps the right & somehow wins...what will happen

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-left-usurps-the-right-somehow-wins-what-will-happen/772138>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [November 16, 2016, 8:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-left-usurps-the-right-somehow-wins-what-will-happen/772138 "2016-11-16T08:08:19Z")\
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**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2016, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-left-usurps-the-right-somehow-wins-what-will-happen/772138/41 "2016-11-17T22:29:38Z")

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Why didn’t Bill Clinton do this for Gore in 2000?

Why didn’t Bush 41 do it for himself in 1992?

Why didn’t Jimmy Carter do it for himself in 1980?

Why didn’t Gerald Ford do it for himself in 1976?

Why didn’t LBJ do it for Hubert Humphrey in 1968?

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**Author:** ![OriginalGangster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ea5d25/32.png) [@OriginalGangster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OriginalGangster)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2016, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-left-usurps-the-right-somehow-wins-what-will-happen/772138/42 "2016-11-17T23:54:40Z")

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Really not that far-fetched.

Elector can choose anyone, doesn’t have to be Hillary.

Maybe it’s time to put America on “Cruz Control”.

[http://investmentwatchblog.com/republican-electors-launch-campaign-to-deny-trump-presidency/](http://investmentwatchblog.com/republican-electors-launch-campaign-to-deny-trump-presidency/)

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-left-usurps-the-right-somehow-wins-what-will-happen/772138/43 "2016-11-18T01:40:17Z")

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Conspiracy theoretics is a sweet gig. If your crazy prediction ends up being correct, you get to crow about how right you were. If not, the “MSM” is hiding the truth.

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**Author:** ![OriginalGangster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ea5d25/32.png) [@OriginalGangster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OriginalGangster)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-left-usurps-the-right-somehow-wins-what-will-happen/772138/44 "2016-11-18T01:50:46Z")

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Difficult to quantify a percent, obviously not that high, but still very possible.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-left-usurps-the-right-somehow-wins-what-will-happen/772138/45 "2016-11-18T02:18:26Z")

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> [@OriginalGangster](#):
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> Hillary & Bill both wore purple when she gave her concession.
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> It’s been said that Soros is behind the upcoming “purple revolution”, i.e. a merging of blue & red in favor of Hillary.
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> Currently in the realm of conspiracy, but worth looking into.

I really hope the Grapist isn’t secretly running things.

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**Author:** ![Sterling\_Archer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Sterling\_Archer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sterling_Archer)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-left-usurps-the-right-somehow-wins-what-will-happen/772138/46 "2016-11-18T03:32:04Z")

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> [@kunilou](#):
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> Why didn’t Bill Clinton do this for Gore in 2000?
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> Why didn’t Bush 41 do it for himself in 1992?
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> Why didn’t Jimmy Carter do it for himself in 1980?
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> Why didn’t Gerald Ford do it for himself in 1976?
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> Why didn’t LBJ do it for Hubert Humphrey in 1968?

Because they respected their opponents as good and decent human beings, even if they fundamentally disagreed on policy.

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**Author:** ![OriginalGangster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ea5d25/32.png) [@OriginalGangster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OriginalGangster)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-left-usurps-the-right-somehow-wins-what-will-happen/772138/47 "2016-11-18T04:10:25Z")

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Some of these electors are still college students.

[http://www.wnd.com/2016/11/electoral-college-voters-deluged-with-death-threats/](http://www.wnd.com/2016/11/electoral-college-voters-deluged-with-death-threats/)

“Even if I could, I wouldn’t be remotely interested in changing my vote,” Banerian, a political science student in his senior year at Oakland University and youth vice chair of the Michigan Republican Party, told the News. “The people of Michigan spoke, and it’s our job to deliver that message.”

What a system. Some random college student has the power of 100k or more popular votes with his one signature. Good riddance. United States of Half Wittedness.

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**Author:** ![Shagnasty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-left-usurps-the-right-somehow-wins-what-will-happen/772138/48 "2016-11-18T04:18:30Z")

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> [@OriginalGangster](#):
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> Some of these electors are still college students.
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> [http://www.wnd.com/2016/11/electoral-college-voters-deluged-with-death-threats/](http://www.wnd.com/2016/11/electoral-college-voters-deluged-with-death-threats/)
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> “Even if I could, I wouldn’t be remotely interested in changing my vote,” Banerian, a political science student in his senior year at Oakland University and youth vice chair of the Michigan Republican Party, told the News. “The people of Michigan spoke, and it’s our job to deliver that message.”
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> What a system. Some random college student has the power of 100k or more popular votes with his one signature. Good riddance. United States of Half Wittedness.

Do you support death threats against members of the Electoral College? If so, how about their families? How would you feel if some of those are fulfilled?

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**Author:** ![OriginalGangster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ea5d25/32.png) [@OriginalGangster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OriginalGangster)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-left-usurps-the-right-somehow-wins-what-will-happen/772138/49 "2016-11-18T04:24:19Z")

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Of course not. Very dumb thing to say on your part.

The alt-right is dangerous.

I actually feel bad for the electors in this position. It is unfortunate we have this system.

This system has ended up making present day society way more chaotic than it should be. If we had a popular vote system like the rest of the civilized world, our society would actually be a lot safer. Of course no one talks about that since this election has rendered both sides incapable of being rational.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-left-usurps-the-right-somehow-wins-what-will-happen/772138/50 "2016-11-18T04:29:38Z")

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> [@OriginalGangster](#):
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> Care to make a wager on that?

Sure, I’ll bet you a gazillion dollars.

The notion that Trump isn’t going to be president is completely nutso, true as I wish it were. At least this is one bizarre conspiracy theory that will be scotched come January 20.

P.S.: No, there is no executive order that Obama can sign that would prevent Trump from becoming president.

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**Author:** ![OriginalGangster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ea5d25/32.png) [@OriginalGangster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OriginalGangster)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-left-usurps-the-right-somehow-wins-what-will-happen/772138/51 "2016-11-18T04:38:32Z")

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Trump has said he agrees with the popular vote, even recently on 60 minutes. He may be setting up to step down, especially as the margin grows exponentially as it has been doing so.

He doesn’t even want to live in the white house, the guy obviously isn’t that thrilled about “winning”.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-left-usurps-the-right-somehow-wins-what-will-happen/772138/52 "2016-11-18T04:44:46Z")

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> [@OriginalGangster](#):
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> Trump has said he agrees with the popular vote, even recently on 60 minutes. He may be setting up to step down, especially as the margin grows exponentially as it has been doing so.
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> He doesn’t even want to live in the white house, the gufrom January 20.y obviously isn’t that thrilled about “winning”.

You’re like a one-track pony with this constant haranguing in threads about how Trump will never be president. Did you join just to alert us of this? Is this something new now among the right? Or the left? I hate Trump as much as anyone, but this feels like some sort of pathetic replacement for the birther movement. At least it will die out come January 20.

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**Author:** ![OriginalGangster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ea5d25/32.png) [@OriginalGangster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OriginalGangster)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-left-usurps-the-right-somehow-wins-what-will-happen/772138/53 "2016-11-18T04:47:43Z")

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The left is hopeful, the right is scared, especially the alt-right.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-left-usurps-the-right-somehow-wins-what-will-happen/772138/54 "2016-11-18T04:49:27Z")

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I’m left, and I don’t know a single person who thinks Trump won’t be president. “Resigned to it” defines us.

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**Author:** ![OriginalGangster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ea5d25/32.png) [@OriginalGangster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OriginalGangster)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-left-usurps-the-right-somehow-wins-what-will-happen/772138/55 "2016-11-18T04:57:47Z")

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There should be the “alt-left”.

A lot of classic democrats simply don’t care.

Both the left & right generally have gone all out retard though.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-left-usurps-the-right-somehow-wins-what-will-happen/772138/56 "2016-11-18T05:01:58Z")

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> [@OriginalGangster](#):
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> Care to make a wager on that?

Are you still taking bets on this?

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**Author:** ![OriginalGangster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ea5d25/32.png) [@OriginalGangster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OriginalGangster)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-left-usurps-the-right-somehow-wins-what-will-happen/772138/57 "2016-11-18T05:03:29Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> Are you still taking bets on this?

This board must be autistic or something.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 6:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-left-usurps-the-right-somehow-wins-what-will-happen/772138/58 "2016-11-18T06:13:25Z")

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> [@OriginalGangster](#):
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> This board must be autistic or something.

You asked if people were willing to make a wager with you. Several of us took you up on the offer. If that was just talk, admit it.

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**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-left-usurps-the-right-somehow-wins-what-will-happen/772138/59 "2016-11-18T06:31:29Z")

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> [@OriginalGangster](#):
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> Care to make a wager on that?

> [@OriginalGangster](#):
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> I only make deals at Crenshaw & Slauson.

> [@OriginalGangster](#):
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> This board must be autistic or something.

Oh, so to be clear, you really _don’t_ want to make a wager, and are just posturing in order to try to give more validity (or something) to your untenable claim, correct?

Because if you don’t have the conviction to actually put your money where your mouth is (after _you_ first suggested it, mind you), then it’s abundantly clear that you don’t really believe your own tripe.

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**Author:** ![OriginalGangster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ea5d25/32.png) [@OriginalGangster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OriginalGangster)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 8:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-left-usurps-the-right-somehow-wins-what-will-happen/772138/60 "2016-11-18T08:48:15Z")

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Not my fault you’re obviously on the continuum & take things literally.

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