# If the left usurps the right & somehow wins...what will happen **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 16, 2016, 8:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-left-usurps-the-right-somehow-wins-what-will-happen/772138 "2016-11-16T08:08:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 9:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-left-usurps-the-right-somehow-wins-what-will-happen/772138/61 "2016-11-18T09:11:22Z")
Nothing in the tone of your post suggests it was in jest. It was a challenge. And you are failing to follow through on it. Very weak. ---
**Author:** ![OriginalGangster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ea5d25/32.png) [@OriginalGangster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OriginalGangster)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 9:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-left-usurps-the-right-somehow-wins-what-will-happen/772138/62 "2016-11-18T09:24:24Z")
You’re a joke artist. ---
**Author:** ![OriginalGangster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ea5d25/32.png) [@OriginalGangster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OriginalGangster)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 9:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-left-usurps-the-right-somehow-wins-what-will-happen/772138/63 "2016-11-18T09:38:12Z")
Besides Nevada, you probably can’t even place wagers in most of the US. ---
**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-left-usurps-the-right-somehow-wins-what-will-happen/772138/64 "2016-11-18T12:34:37Z")
Sure you can. You’ve never made a friendly wager before? ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-left-usurps-the-right-somehow-wins-what-will-happen/772138/65 "2016-11-18T13:13:46Z")
Anyone who still thinks the OP is for real at this point is encouraged to review and reevaluate. ---
**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-left-usurps-the-right-somehow-wins-what-will-happen/772138/66 "2016-11-18T13:23:40Z")
It’s just kind of amusing to watch so much backpedaling and deflection. Like it was an Olympic sport. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-left-usurps-the-right-somehow-wins-what-will-happen/772138/67 "2016-11-18T13:48:41Z")
Much as I hate the thought of Trump becoming president, an effective mass revolt of electors is likely to cause even more damage to the country by inciting even more public protests and unrest (on both sides) and by completely undermining the electoral system. And frankly I’ll be disappointed if any electors go against the voters’ wishes even if I do think many of those voters are dumbasses. ---
**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-left-usurps-the-right-somehow-wins-what-will-happen/772138/68 "2016-11-18T13:56:33Z")
> [@OriginalGangster](#): > > The left is hopeful, the right is scared, especially the alt-right. The alt-right is happy as pigs in shit about Trump. ---
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-left-usurps-the-right-somehow-wins-what-will-happen/772138/69 "2016-11-18T14:21:17Z")
There was and is still a possibility there is a real thread in here. It’s slim given the chaff. While this thread is still in Elections please refrain from personal insults. There have been several borderline examples thus far in the thread so this is a general notice to all to dial it back. [/moderating] ---
**Author:** ![OriginalGangster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ea5d25/32.png) [@OriginalGangster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OriginalGangster)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-left-usurps-the-right-somehow-wins-what-will-happen/772138/70 "2016-11-18T16:17:03Z")
Too much herd mentality here & some are taking this “wager” thing way too seriously. Where’s Pete Rose when you need him lol Thank you for regulating. ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-left-usurps-the-right-somehow-wins-what-will-happen/772138/71 "2016-11-18T17:17:56Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Much as I hate the thought of Trump becoming president, an effective mass revolt of electors is likely to cause even more damage to the country by inciting even more public protests and unrest (on both sides) and by completely undermining the electoral system. And frankly I’ll be disappointed if any electors go against the voters’ wishes even if I do think many of those voters are dumbasses. Personally, as someone on the other side of the political chasm from you, I’m delighted we can agree on this. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-left-usurps-the-right-somehow-wins-what-will-happen/772138/72 "2016-11-18T17:29:18Z")
> [@OriginalGangster](#): > > Besides Nevada, you probably can’t even place wagers in most of the US. You can’t create a shadow government to undo an election by fiat either, but that hasn’t stopped you from posting about it. I bet you $100 that Trump will take office. If you’re not comfortable with that, I will bet you a bottle of liquor worth $100 or less of the winner’s choosing. In fact, I’ll give you 2-to-1 odds - if you win, you pay/provide drinks worth only $50. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-left-usurps-the-right-somehow-wins-what-will-happen/772138/73 "2016-11-18T17:33:49Z")
Don’t matter how much liquor you win, it ain’t gonna be enough. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-left-usurps-the-right-somehow-wins-what-will-happen/772138/74 "2016-11-18T17:38:01Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > Personally, as someone on the other side of the political chasm from you, I’m delighted we can agree on this. The only exception would be if there were demonstrable significant evidence of tampering with the election results (in whatever form) such that the true result was in doubt. At that point the electoral system is already in turmoil anyway, and I’d expect the electors to at least put things on hold. We probably need a system in place for that circumstance (which I am not suggesting is currently the case), but god knows what it would be. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-left-usurps-the-right-somehow-wins-what-will-happen/772138/75 "2016-11-18T17:45:02Z")
> [@Bone](#): > > There was and is still a possibility there is a real thread in here. It’s slim given the chaff. While this thread is still in Elections please refrain from personal insults. There have been several borderline examples thus far in the thread so this is a general notice to all to dial it back. I’m not trying to make personal insults. But I think it’s a reasonable part of the debate to point out when somebody makes a statement and then backs down when called on it. A lack of personal credibility is always a factor in a debate. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-left-usurps-the-right-somehow-wins-what-will-happen/772138/76 "2016-11-18T17:56:36Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Much as I hate the thought of Trump becoming president, an effective mass revolt of electors is likely to cause even more damage to the country by inciting even more public protests and unrest (on both sides) and by completely undermining the electoral system. And frankly I’ll be disappointed if any electors go against the voters’ wishes even if I do think many of those voters are dumbasses. Ditto. I’m definitely moderate left, and I am frankly, at the very least “heavily concerned” by a Trump presidency (to put it mildly), but I’m absolutely frightened about what would happen if the electors were to overturn the results. I think the idea is just crazy and would rip this country in half. (I know some people already think the country is torn in half, but I mean violently so.) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-left-usurps-the-right-somehow-wins-what-will-happen/772138.md?page=3)