# If the Nazis had invented the drink Fanta?

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**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [July 19, 2014, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-nazis-had-invented-the-drink-fanta/693539 "2014-07-19T16:58:24Z")\
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**Author:** ![Princess\_Perfume](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/princess_perfume/32/16518_2.png) [@Princess\_Perfume](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princess_Perfume)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2014, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-nazis-had-invented-the-drink-fanta/693539/1 "2014-07-19T16:58:24Z")

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> **[Fanta and the Nazis](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/the-reich-stuff/)**
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> Was Fanta invented by the Nazis?

What would have happened to Fanta after the war if the Nazis _had_ invented Fanta in order to have something fizzy to drink?

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**Author:** ![Hello\_Again](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/85e7bf/32.png) [@Hello\_Again](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hello_Again)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2014, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-nazis-had-invented-the-drink-fanta/693539/2 "2014-07-19T17:02:25Z")

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I’m going t go ahead and say “nothing.”

Nazis 100% invented Volkswagon and no one cares.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Kobayashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4af34b/32.png) [@Mr.Kobayashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Kobayashi)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2014, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-nazis-had-invented-the-drink-fanta/693539/3 "2014-07-19T17:04:00Z")

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Well, it didn’t hurt [Volkswagen](http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-kZNInNJY4EE/UI6pjGMYlSI/AAAAAAAAFKo/VEfd4aRKXMo/s1600/hitler-and-volkswagen-beetle.png) any.

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2014, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-nazis-had-invented-the-drink-fanta/693539/4 "2014-07-19T17:17:23Z")

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Or Hugo Boss, who in large part designed the Reich’s sartorial aesthetic, SS uniforms notably.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2014, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-nazis-had-invented-the-drink-fanta/693539/5 "2014-07-19T17:32:29Z")

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It is also not true they invented Faygo. Not even the Nazis were that evil.

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**Author:** ![Shakester](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shakester/32/437_2.png) [@Shakester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shakester)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2014, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-nazis-had-invented-the-drink-fanta/693539/6 "2014-07-19T17:36:03Z")

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> [@Kobal2](#):
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> Or Hugo Boss, who in large part designed the Reich’s sartorial aesthetic, SS uniforms notably.

That’s a myth. [Hugo Boss](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugo_Boss_%28fashion_designer%29) was very much a Nazi, and ran a sweatshop (using slave labour) where they _manufactured_ Nazi uniforms, one of many. But he didn’t design them, [Karl Diebitsch](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Diebitsch) did.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2014, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-nazis-had-invented-the-drink-fanta/693539/7 "2014-07-19T17:47:07Z")

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**“If the Nazis had invented the drink Fanta?”**

Whaddaya mean, _if?_

> [@gatopescado](#):
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> It is also not true they invented Faygo. Not even the Nazis were that evil.

Soviet commies invented Faygo Redpop.

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**Author:** ![njtt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ecd19e/32.png) [@njtt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/njtt)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2014, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-nazis-had-invented-the-drink-fanta/693539/8 "2014-07-19T18:23:18Z")

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> [@Princess\_Perfume](#):
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> [Fanta and the Nazis | Snopes.com](http://www.snopes.com/cokelore/fanta.asp)
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> What would have happened to Fanta after the war if the Nazis _had_ invented Fanta in order to have something fizzy to drink?

They would have been much happier, less uptight people, and would not have felt the need to do all that holocausty, invadey stuff. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2014, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-nazis-had-invented-the-drink-fanta/693539/9 "2014-07-19T19:08:29Z")

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Since this is speculative, let’s move it to IMHO.

Colibri  
General Questions Moderator

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2014, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-nazis-had-invented-the-drink-fanta/693539/10 "2014-07-19T19:14:21Z")

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Make burps, not war!

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**Author:** ![psychonaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/psychonaut/32/4655_2.png) [@psychonaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychonaut)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2014, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-nazis-had-invented-the-drink-fanta/693539/11 "2014-07-19T21:39:20Z")

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> [@Mr.Kobayashi](#):
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> Well, it didn’t hurt [Volkswagen](http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-kZNInNJY4EE/UI6pjGMYlSI/AAAAAAAAFKo/VEfd4aRKXMo/s1600/hitler-and-volkswagen-beetle.png) any.

I’m sorry? Volkswagen’s close association with the Nazi regime most certainly did hurt it, at least as far as the original owners were concerned. After the war, most such companies had their assets seized and then either nationalized or dismantled and sent abroad as war reparations. Volkswagen was no exception; its factory in Wolfsburg narrowly escaped dismantlement, but was appropriated by the Federal Republic of Germany and the State of Lower Saxony. Some time later it was partially privatized, but the proceeds of that sale, as well as the profits from the shares still held by the government, are used to fund public research projects.

If Nazis had invented Fanta, then the Fanta factories and assets might have been dismantled and shipped to Britain, France, or the Soviet Union, or they might have remained in Germany but brought under partial or total governmental control, or its profits diverted to war reparations or public works. In any case the company probably wouldn’t be making (as) much money for the Nazis who originally founded it.

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**Author:** ![njtt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ecd19e/32.png) [@njtt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/njtt)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2014, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-nazis-had-invented-the-drink-fanta/693539/12 "2014-07-19T23:04:34Z")

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> [@psychonaut](#):
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> I’m sorry? Volkswagen’s close association with the Nazi regime most certainly did hurt it, at least as far as the original owners were concerned. After the war, most such companies had their assets seized and then either nationalized or dismantled and sent abroad as war reparations. Volkswagen was no exception; its factory in Wolfsburg narrowly escaped dismantlement, but was appropriated by the Federal Republic of Germany and the State of Lower Saxony. Some time later it was partially privatized, but the proceeds of that sale, as well as the profits from the shares still held by the government, are used to fund public research projects.
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> If Nazis had invented Fanta, then the Fanta factories and assets might have been dismantled and shipped to Britain, France, or the Soviet Union, or they might have remained in Germany but brought under partial or total governmental control, or its profits diverted to war reparations or public works. In any case the company probably wouldn’t be making (as) much money for the Nazis who originally founded it.

I don’t think the issue of interest here is hurt (or otherwise) to the original owners; the issue is whether the Nazi association damaged the brand image. As **Mr. Kobayashi** pointed out, the Volkswagen brand does not seem to have been much damaged, so it is reasonable to conjecture (other things being equal) that the Fanta brand would not have been much damaged either.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2014, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-nazis-had-invented-the-drink-fanta/693539/13 "2014-07-19T23:09:10Z")

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Ya know, Fanta was _strangely_ popular in South America…

Just sayin’.

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**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2014, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-nazis-had-invented-the-drink-fanta/693539/14 "2014-07-19T23:55:42Z")

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That would be a great commercial, though: Hitler in the bunker, shell concussions raining plaster down, it’s the bitter end. So he starts to put a gun barrel in his mouth, but it turns into a pop bottle and the plaster turns into confetti. The Fantanas come dancing in _want a, want a, want a Fanta!_

Then they pee on him. I guess he was into that.

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**Author:** ![handsomeharry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9c0ed/32.png) [@handsomeharry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handsomeharry)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2014, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-the-nazis-had-invented-the-drink-fanta/693539/15 "2014-07-20T04:12:12Z")

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If the Nazis had invented Fanta, particularly Strawberry Fanta, Churchill would have concluded a peace treaty with Germany in 1940, and became a Nazi himself. Once FDR had tasted it, he would have declared the US the 3rd and 1/2 Reich.
